On 25-02-2012 23:02, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
As said, all the great things Oral history can be done - outside of
Wikipedia.
Yes, it "can be done" but it's not "been made". The information is there
for decades or centuries, and it was never registered outside of
Wikipedia, and now we have intereste
Watch the first 2:40 of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3vVVOa-Euw :)
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As said, all the great things Oral history can be done - outside of
Wikipedia. And what local Wikipedians like to do with it, will be
decided in the community.
Kind regards
Ziko
2012/2/25 Castelo :
> On 25-02-2012 15:58, Michael Peel wrote:
>>
>> Actually, Wikipedia sort of is the place for origi
On 02/26/2012 01:39 AM, Milos Rancic wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 18:01, Milos Rancic wrote:
Tomorrow will be anti-ACTA protest in Belgrade and Wikimedia Serbia
[1], along with the guests of GLAM conference [2] from France, India,
Hungary, Italy, Czech Republic and Macedonia will be there.
Y
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 18:01, Milos Rancic wrote:
> Tomorrow will be anti-ACTA protest in Belgrade and Wikimedia Serbia
> [1], along with the guests of GLAM conference [2] from France, India,
> Hungary, Italy, Czech Republic and Macedonia will be there.
You will find here some known faces: http:
On 25-02-2012 15:58, Michael Peel wrote:
Actually, Wikipedia sort of is the place for original content - when it comes
to illustrations in articles.
Those illustrations are mainly in Commons, with exception of the images
in fair use, but linked in the articles. That kind of original content
al
On 25 Feb 2012, at 17:15, Castelo wrote:
> In my opinion, and i already pointed that in Meta discussion, Wikipedia is
> not the place for original content, but Wikinews can publish the interviews
> and the content can be uploaded to Commons so others volunteers can check the
> material.
Actu
On 25-02-2012 06:02, Lodewijk wrote:
Hi Castelo,
just to make the discussion clearer: could you just give say 5 or 10
examples of topics where you believe oral citations are unavoidable? Then I
hope that Ziko in his turn can explain how we can write about those
examples without using them.
Best
Hello Ziko,
I disagree :-)
Yes, it is the way how classic encyclopedia worked. But Wikipedia is not
a classic encyclopedia, and I don't see the sense to bound ourselves
possibilities just to please some old traditional rules.
Classic encyclopedias were written by scholars, Wikipedia is not.
On 2/25/12 2:12 AM, Castelo wrote:
On 24-02-2012 07:48, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
Leave the use of historical sources to historians, and then cite from
their books. That's what historians are for.
Kind regards
Ziko
Ziko,
there's a lack of historians writing books outside Europe/US, specially
on som
Yes Ting, and for these cases there is the method of [[oral history]].
This is a means to create what the Anglosaxons call "primary sources".
It is recorded and can later be used by a scholar (historian,
ethnologist etc.) for his research, for his "secondary sources".
These, with their scholar refl
Mountain, the first ever editor on zh-wp, and still active until today,
told me the following story one day (it was before the Oral Citation
project but I remembered the story very well):
He came from the coast of Shandong, and his father told him that earlier
there was a local tradition where
Hi Castelo,
just to make the discussion clearer: could you just give say 5 or 10
examples of topics where you believe oral citations are unavoidable? Then I
hope that Ziko in his turn can explain how we can write about those
examples without using them.
Best regards,
Lodewijk
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