Hi Castelo, just to make the discussion clearer: could you just give say 5 or 10 examples of topics where you believe oral citations are unavoidable? Then I hope that Ziko in his turn can explain how we can write about those examples without using them.
Best regards, Lodewijk No dia 25 de Fevereiro de 2012 05:17, Castelo <michelcastelobra...@gmail.com > escreveu: > On 24-02-2012 23:18, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > >> Those people who would like to write on Wikipedia about any subject >> can write a book or pdf about it. It does not have to be a scholarly >> work in every aspect. And then, the Wikipedia in language X can decide >> that it accepts this kind of literature as reliable. (Those various >> standards are not uncommon in the different Wikipedias.) >> Not everything has to happen*in* Wikipedia. >> Kind regards >> Ziko >> > In the case of Oral Citations, the people who tells the facts are not the > same people who want to write on Wikipedia, and definitively, not people > willing to write a book or pdf. Editors are recording them for using this > material in Wikipedia. > > We are willing to apply this in Brazil, with indigenous traditions. Some > of the indians cannot write a book, a pdf or a Wikipedia article and those > are exactly who have more expertise on their traditions. This can give them > authority when describing their rituals, clothings, artefacts, fights, > cuisine, etc., much more than a wikipedian can. And we still have a huge > lack on articles about them, because for certains indigenous nations, there > are almost no published material (some have no written material at all, as > far as i know). I live in the capital city, where some of them usually come > for present their culture in a national museum, and go back to their > territories. In moments like these, we wikimedians can go there, take > photos and record an interview (most speak a bit Portuguese, as well as > their own languages), for publishing in Commons and Commons/Wikinews, > respectively, for using in Wikipedia articles. > > I'm not thinking only on Wikipedia, we have also other projects not > mentioned here, that can work together on it. Each project for a kind of > content. In Wikinews, original reporting is fine, in Wikiversity, even > original research is fine. They can be more reliable than a book, in some > cases. It depends on how we do that, by reviewing, approval, etc, there's a > lot of extensions that can be used on it. > > > Castelo > ______________________________**_________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.**org <foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/foundation-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l> > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
