Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Sue Gardner
On 12 April 2011 12:02, David Gerard wrote: > > I just tried editing an article on en:wp on my shiny new BlackBerry > 9300. (Which can browse Wikipedia just fine.) It was ridiculously > annoying and I'm not sure I'd bother fixing typos I spotted in casual > reading. > > (At least Vector worked in

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 April 2011 21:17, Quim Gil wrote: > About tricky UIs, they can be improved for mobile use. Please take the > time filing feature requests and your proposals at > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ I strongly suspect this is in the class of problem which is not going to achieve good solutions

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Quim Gil
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 20:02 +0100, ext David Gerard wrote: > On 12 April 2011 19:46, Quim Gil wrote: > > > In fact Wikimedia content is also popular among mobile users (directly > > or through apps), but what about mobile contributions? > > > I just tried editing an article on en:wp on my shiny

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:02 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 12 April 2011 19:46, Quim Gil wrote: > > > In fact Wikimedia content is also popular among mobile users (directly > > or through apps), but what about mobile contributions? > > I just tried editing an article on en:wp on my shiny new Blac

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Chris Keating
> I just tried editing an article on en:wp on my shiny new BlackBerry > 9300. (Which can browse Wikipedia just fine.) It was ridiculously > annoying and I'm not sure I'd bother fixing typos I spotted in casual > reading. > > (At least Vector worked in that version of the BlackBerry browser ...) >

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
I tried it about half a dozen times on my HTC desire. The user experience is truly dreadful, and I'm not trying it again. Op 12 apr. 2011 21:02 schreef "David Gerard" het volgende: > On 12 April 2011 19:46, Quim Gil wrote: > >> In fact Wikimedia content is also popular among mobile users (directl

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 April 2011 19:46, Quim Gil wrote: > In fact Wikimedia content is also popular among mobile users (directly > or through apps), but what about mobile contributions? I just tried editing an article on en:wp on my shiny new BlackBerry 9300. (Which can browse Wikipedia just fine.) It was ridi

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Quim Gil
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 10:36 -0700, ext Sue Gardner wrote: > We do all see the world from where we sit, and we interact with the > people we already know ... so, experienced editors will be more > exposed to the kinds of concerns shared by other experienced editors, > and those concerns will instinc

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Fred Bauder
> You can see it in this Google spreadsheet here: > https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aq_nhKkb7L-OdG5uWlJLT25TZkZ3MzdSeUNqZnZqY2c&hl=en&authkey=CP3O_PgO > -- it's publicly viewable but not editable. Brilliant! One point though, every item on that list has a meta solution of better informat

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-12 Thread Sue Gardner
On 9 April 2011 20:21, Andrew Garrett wrote: > I don't mean to minimise the importance of keeping our established > users happy and free from harassment, but I want to caution against > the biases that we will undoubtedly have in considering our focus. > > Anecdotally, we tend to hear a lot more

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Milos Rancic
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 18:29, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: >> As admin (but not Toolserver admin), the sense of rules similar to " >> excuses such as 'the rules didn't say I can't do this' will be >> ignored." is obvious to me and it means "don't ma

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > As admin (but not Toolserver admin), the sense of rules similar to " > excuses such as 'the rules didn't say I can't do this' will be > ignored." is obvious to me and it means "don't make troubles". Having > a redirect to a Wikipedia page is

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Milos Rancic
On 04/12/2011 04:45 PM, Jason donovan wrote: > I'm sorry but I don't see the wisdom in antagonizing someone for bringing a > legitimate concern to this list. It might not be the right place and he did > copy the message to toolserver-l but telling him "to stop using > toolserver...if you have probl

[Foundation-l] nth largest site on the Internet, and what we should measure ourselves by instead

2011-04-12 Thread WereSpielChequers
Re the argument that we should trumpet ourselves as, or even be be concerned as to whether we are the 5th largest site on the Internet. Our remit is to make the world's knowledge freely available to all, and the Internet is by far the most important medium we use to do that. If fewer people were u

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Jason donovan
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 15:53, Aryeh Gregor > wrote: > > You're mistaken. The toolserver has strict rules: > > > > https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Rules > > > > Using toolserver access in a manner that does not further the > > toolserver's

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Milos Rancic
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 15:53, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > You're mistaken.  The toolserver has strict rules: > > https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Rules > > Using toolserver access in a manner that does not further the > toolserver's goals (or, indeed, hinders them) is a misappropriation of > donated re

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > You can stop using http://toolserver.org/~kalan/arb10/ if you have > problems with profanity on user's main personal page. > > Server admins usually prefer not to do anything in relation to personal > files if it is not a security problem and

Re: [Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Milos Rancic
On 04/12/2011 02:51 PM, Shadow His wrote: > http://toolserver.org/~kalan is redirected to Russian Wikipedia article «Хуй > (значения)». This is very incorrect redirect («Хуй» («Khuy») in Russian mean > obscene word, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mat_(Russian_profanity) ) and > in fact a vanda

[Foundation-l] Vandal obscene redirect from Toolserver

2011-04-12 Thread Shadow His
Hello. http://toolserver.org/~kalan is redirected to Russian Wikipedia article «Хуй (значения)». This is very incorrect redirect («Хуй» («Khuy») in Russian mean obscene word, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mat_(Russian_profanity) ) and in fact a vandalism: this toolserver account contains sta

Re: [Foundation-l] Outdated manual

2011-04-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
MZMcBride, 12/04/2011 02:32: >> If WMF websites happened to be overtaken by Ask.com or some other >> website, it would be good to be forced to change the habit of how we >> describe them. > > If you use more generic language, the likelihood of needing to update that > language later decreases. Yes

[Foundation-l] The Signpost – Volume 7, Issue 15 – 11 April 2011

2011-04-12 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: Editor retention; Malayalam loves Wikimedia; Wikimedia reports; brief news http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-04-11/News_and_notes In the news: What if experts just want to get their links into Wikipedia?; brief news http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi