Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Fred Bauder
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:50, aude wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Andreas Kolbe >> wrote: >> >>> --- On Tue, 8/3/11, Fred Bauder wrote: >>> > From: Fred Bauder >>> > Fred Bauder >>> > I guess I would like editors to have access to archives and >>> > databases >>> > such as those

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Tue, 8/3/11, George Herbert wrote: > From: George Herbert > We should have no illusion that the WMF or open content > movement will > zero out the production of copyrighted and > not-freely-licensed content > - most authors of books, most movie studios, most musicians > depend on > revenue

Re: [Foundation-l] 2015 strategic plan pdf and licencing/attribution practices

2011-03-08 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jay Walsh wrote: > ... >> *The sunflower picture on the last page is what people colloquially >> call a "stolen" picture. The attribution right of Uwe H. Friese >> Bremerhaven 2005 (User:Vulcan) is infringed (2) > > If that's the case, and if Commons users address

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread SlimVirgin
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:50, aude wrote: > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > >> --- On Tue, 8/3/11, Fred Bauder wrote: >> > From: Fred Bauder >> > Fred Bauder >> > I guess I would like editors to have access to archives and >> > databases >> > such as those ProQuest sell

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Liam Wyatt
On 09/03/2011, at 10:15, MZMcBride wrote: > All of this makes for one of the stronger arguments for a more decentralized > office structure at this point, in my opinion. (Lightly echoing what Liam > said.) > > MZMcBride That's actually not what I said, or at least not what I meant to say. I am

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Andrew Gray
On 9 March 2011 00:24, Pedro Sanchez wrote: > Thank you for your enlightening response. > * Reddit ... a project with values similar to ours > * Google  ... a project with values similar to ours > * OWA  ?¿ > * CivicCRM  ... this one offers services to help internal management > * Creative Common

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Michael Snow
On 3/8/2011 4:24 PM, Pedro Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Arthur Richards > wrote: >> I don't know much about any official partnerships the Foundation has, >> but a non-trivial amount of in-person collaboration and information >> sharing goes on on a regular basis in the office

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Arthur Richards
> * Reddit ... a project with values similar to ours > * Google ... a project with values similar to ours > * OWA ?¿ > * CivicCRM ... this one offers services to help internal management > * Creative Commons ok, finally one project with similar values than > ours: free content > > Now, out of

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Arthur Richards wrote: > >> Yes, that was what we were said several years ago >> >> and I think now there's ample evidence to show it was true, look at >> all the partnerships and support we got > > I presume you meant that sarcastically? > > I don't know much about

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Arthur Richards
> Yes, that was what we were said several years ago > > and I think now there's ample evidence to show it was true, look at > all the partnerships and support we got I presume you meant that sarcastically? I don't know much about any official partnerships the Foundation has, but a non-trivial a

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Arthur Richards wrote: > >> As Wikimedia's paid staff continues to grow, the decision to move to San >> Francisco (and its consequences) actually gets amplified, doesn't it? It >> would only be offset by the benefits that Wikimedia gets for being in that >> particul

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Arthur Richards
> As Wikimedia's paid staff continues to grow, the decision to move to San > Francisco (and its consequences) actually gets amplified, doesn't it? It > would only be offset by the benefits that Wikimedia gets for being in that > particular location (partnerships with other San Francisco-based comp

Re: [Foundation-l] 2015 strategic plan pdf and licencing/attribution practices

2011-03-08 Thread Jay Walsh
Teofilo, Some of my comments below - sorry for the delay. On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:15 AM, Teofilo wrote: > Just a few remarks about the 2015 strategic plan pdf (1) > > *http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode 4(a) "You > must include a copy of, or the Uniform Resource Identifier (UR

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread MZMcBride
Birgitte SB wrote: > But seriously it's 2011, can we be stop discussing "the move to SF". > Is anyone seriously complaining about funds from the 2006 fundraiser? Sure, in a sense, what's done is done. However, it has (or had) little to do with the relocation costs. You have to maintain salaries, b

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-08 Thread Milos Rancic
Zen is very good way to contemplate limitations of human nature. One of the limitations is very limited ability to learn languages. There are more than 5000 languages in the world and just extraordinary individuals are able to speak more than 10. And when I say "speak", my ru-2 is not counted. Be

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-08 Thread Samuel Klein
John Vandenberg writes: >> This *is* a multilingual list.  All languages are welcome here. > > While they are welcome, they are typically shoveled away to another > list very quickly. > > A multilingual space is one where English is not the principle > language, and/or people are not expected to us

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Birgitte SB
- Original Message > From: SlimVirgin > To: fredb...@fairpoint.net; Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > > Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 10:03:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser > > Why is there a feeling alienation? Because the Foundation is raising >

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-08 Thread Thomas Goldammer
> > What Thomas says may seem like a joke, but it's actually something > that's happened on this list in the past. :-)  I remember a thread > where I was talking with someone in English while they responded in > German.  We used Google Translate to figure out what each other was > saying and then w

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues

2011-03-08 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Pedro Sanchez wrote: > However... wikies-l is about spanish wikipedia issues, and certainly > not the place to talk with people related to foundation/wikimedia > global matters. No, certainly not. But given that she typed "NO ENTIENDO" several times, in all caps,

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Melissa Hagemann wrote: > .. > It would be wonderful if we could find a way for the WMF and OA > communities to more closely collaborate. Aubrey is right in that to a > large extent, OA is not well known outside the library community. Given > the reach of WMF, there

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-08 Thread Casey Brown
2011/3/8 Victor Vasiliev : > Ты это серьёзно? Мне кажется, письме на двадцатом Google Translate > всем изрядно надоест. К тому же как быть с просторечиями и > фразеологизмами, на которых автоматические переводчики постоянно > спотыкаются? It's not perfect, but it's better than saying "Victor, spea

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-08 Thread Casey Brown
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Austin Hair wrote: > (As an aside, does anyone know the appropriate Spanish verb for "to > moderate" in this context? I didn't actually ban her, I just couldn't > come up with a better word.) I'm pretty sure that it's "moderar".

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-08 Thread Victor Vasiliev
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Casey Brown wrote:> > This *is* a multilingual list.  All languages are welcome here. Ты это серьёзно? Мне кажется, письме на двадцатом Google Translate всем изрядно надоест. К тому же как быть с просторечиями и фразеологизмами, на которых автоматические переводчи

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues

2011-03-08 Thread Pedro Sanchez
2011/3/8 Austin Hair : > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:55 PM, MARIA DE LOS ANGELES HERRERA GARCIA > wrote: >>  NO ENTIENDO INGLES . POR FAVOR ESPAÑOL...GRACIAS > > Hola, Maria, > > Hablamos inglés en esta lista. Quizás usted prefiere la lista de la > Wikipedia en español, que se encuentra en > https://

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-08 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:17 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: >> Do we have a multilingual mailing list? >> >> I think it would be a good idea to have a general discussion list >> where anyone, especially newbies, can write in their preferred >> lang

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Melissa Hagemann
On Mar 8, 2011, "Andrea Zanni" wrote: > > We certainly have many individual contacts with the OA community, > > including Melissa Hagemann, who is on our advisory board :) This is > > also an area of professional work for me. What kinds of lobbying did > > you have in mind? > > > > I was just wa

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues

2011-03-08 Thread Austin Hair
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:55 PM, MARIA DE LOS ANGELES HERRERA GARCIA wrote: >  NO ENTIENDO INGLES . POR FAVOR ESPAÑOL...GRACIAS Hola, Maria, Hablamos inglés en esta lista. Quizás usted prefiere la lista de la Wikipedia en español, que se encuentra en https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/w

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:32 PM, THURNER rupert wrote: > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 21:50, Juergen Fenn wrote: >> >> >> Am 08.03.11 21:36, schrieb Andrea Zanni: >> AFAIK, these publishers make the pricing upon the number of >>> scholars/researchers/students of a certain university/corporation: I

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-08 Thread Huib Laurens
2011/3/8 Casey Brown > \ > What Thomas says may seem like a joke, but it's actually something > that's happened on this list in the past. :-) I remember a thread > where I was talking with someone in English while they responded in > German. We used Google Translate to figure out what each othe

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia "Storyteller" job opening

2011-03-08 Thread Birgitte SB
- Original Message > From: MZMcBride > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 6:47:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia "Storyteller" job opening > > > If someone has the time to break this report down more completely, I'd > certainly appreciate

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announce] Brion Vibber to rejoin Wikimedia Foundation

2011-03-08 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:33 PM, George Herbert wrote: > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: >> On 8 March 2011 00:23, church.of.emacs.ml > wrote: >>> >>> >> Lead Architect for the next generation MediaWiki platform Welcome back, Brion! > The general concept of a NG has been under

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-08 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:17 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Thomas Goldammer >> wrote: >>> Why don't we just write in our respective native language, all of us. >>> XD Would make communication much funnier, I gue

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announce] Brion Vibber to rejoin Wikimedia Foundation

2011-03-08 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > On 8 March 2011 00:23, church.of.emacs.ml wrote: >> >> >> Lead Architect for the next generation MediaWiki platform >> >> I'd really like to hear more about that. Did I miss something or is this >> a new project? :-) > I'm quite interested in wh

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread THURNER rupert
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 21:50, Juergen Fenn wrote: > > > Am 08.03.11 21:36, schrieb Andrea Zanni: > >>> AFAIK, these publishers make the pricing upon the number of >> scholars/researchers/students of a certain university/corporation: I bet >> they would make us unbearable fees (in fact the potentia

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announce] Brion Vibber to rejoin Wikimedia Foundation

2011-03-08 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Pedro Sanchez wrote: > 2011/3/8 Huib Laurens : >> Lo sentimos, pero el Inglés es el idioma principal en esta lista. > > :Not only is english the main idioma, dare I say the only one (any > thread started on another language would raise complains and quickly > turned

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > >>> AFAIK, these publishers make the pricing upon the number of >> scholars/researchers/students of a certain university/corporation: I bet >> they would make us unbearable fees (in fact the potential users are >> hundred >> thousands, if not mi

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-08 Thread Casey Brown
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:17 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Thomas Goldammer > wrote: >> Why don't we just write in our respective native language, all of us. >> XD Would make communication much funnier, I guess. :p > > I agree, that it would be funnier, but I doubt

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Andrea Zanni wrote: >> >> We certainly have many individual contacts with the OA community, >> including Melissa Hagemann, who is on our advisory board :)  This is >> also an area of professional work for me. What kinds of lobbying did >> you have in mind? >> >> I w

[Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-08 Thread John Vandenberg
was: Steward election issues On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Thomas Goldammer wrote: > Why don't we just write in our respective native language, all of us. > XD Would make communication much funnier, I guess. :p I agree, that it would be funnier, but I doubt most folk on foundation-l will agree

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Stephanie Daugherty
As far as academic journals go most people have some access and don't know it. Most public libraries subscribe to one or more services, and a library card is all they need for that access. Any wmf sponsored access plan needs to keep this in mind and encourage editors to use access they already hav

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues

2011-03-08 Thread Thomas Goldammer
Why don't we just write in our respective native language, all of us. XD Would make communication much funnier, I guess. :p Th. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foun

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Andrea Zanni
> > We certainly have many individual contacts with the OA community, > including Melissa Hagemann, who is on our advisory board :) This is > also an area of professional work for me. What kinds of lobbying did > you have in mind? > > I was just waiting the librarians to weigh in :-) I'm really no

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Fred Bauder
>> AFAIK, these publishers make the pricing upon the number of > scholars/researchers/students of a certain university/corporation: I bet > they would make us unbearable fees (in fact the potential users are > hundred > thousands, if not millions). Limited to editors with 20,000 edits or more? Y

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Juergen Fenn
Am 08.03.11 21:36, schrieb Andrea Zanni: >> AFAIK, these publishers make the pricing upon the number of > scholars/researchers/students of a certain university/corporation: I bet > they would make us unbearable fees (in fact the potential users are hundred > thousands, if not millions). That's

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Juergen Fenn
Am 08.03.11 21:32, schrieb Andrea Zanni: > BTW, do we (Wikimedia communtiy) have good and enstablished contacts with > the open access community? AFAIK, not on an official level. However, many wikipedians who are scientists will certainly prefer to publish open access, and those who are librar

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread aude
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:20 PM, phoebe ayers wrote: > > I don't mean to derail this thread off-topic ... but I'm a Wikipedian, > I can't help myself :) > > Most (all?) university libraries sign contracts with database/journal > vendors restricting access to only faculty/staff/students at the > un

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > 2011/3/8 Juergen Fenn : >> >> >> Am 08.03.11 20:46, schrieb Samuel Klein: >>> Melissa -- absolutely!  I don't know the real stats, but I think we >>> cite OA jornals far more than any others in Wikipedia for this reason. >> >> Which is certai

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Andrea Zanni
2011/3/8 Tomasz Ganicz > 2011/3/8 Juergen Fenn : > > > > > > Am 08.03.11 20:46, schrieb Samuel Klein: > >> Melissa -- absolutely! I don't know the real stats, but I think we > >> cite OA jornals far more than any others in Wikipedia for this reason. > > > > Which is certainly a rather bad idea b

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Andrea Zanni
2011/3/8 Juergen Fenn > > > Am 08.03.11 20:46, schrieb Samuel Klein: > > Melissa -- absolutely! I don't know the real stats, but I think we > > cite OA jornals far more than any others in Wikipedia for this reason. > > Which is certainly a rather bad idea because what always counts first > must

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Juergen Fenn
Am 08.03.11 21:19, schrieb phoebe ayers: >> As far as Wikipedia is concerned, the German chapter of Wikimedia has >> just negotiated the first settlement for a premium database provider in >> chemistry, see >> . >> There

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2011/3/8 Juergen Fenn : > > > Am 08.03.11 20:46, schrieb Samuel Klein: >> Melissa -- absolutely!  I don't know the real stats, but I think we >> cite OA jornals far more than any others in Wikipedia for this reason. > > Which is certainly a rather bad idea because what always counts first > must be

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Fred Bauder
> In general, access to academic journals is extremely expensive and > usually only possible for those affiliated with universities. > > Melissa ProQuest can be purchased by corporations. The Wikimedia Foundation is a corporation. Typically a University will give their students access. We could g

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Andrew Gray
On 8 March 2011 19:20, phoebe ayers wrote: > Most (all?) university libraries sign contracts with database/journal > vendors restricting access to only faculty/staff/students at the > university. The library pays according to how many people that is. > Giving access to others is generally a viola

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Juergen Fenn wrote: > > > Am 08.03.11 20:20, schrieb phoebe ayers: > >> Most (all?) university libraries sign contracts with database/journal >> vendors restricting access to only faculty/staff/students at the >> university. > > This may hold true for the U.S., but

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announce] Brion Vibber to rejoin Wikimedia Foundation

2011-03-08 Thread Pedro Sanchez
2011/3/8 Huib Laurens : > Lo sentimos, pero el Inglés es el idioma principal en esta lista. :Not only is english the main idioma, dare I say the only one (any thread started on another language would raise complains and quickly turned into english) > __

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues

2011-03-08 Thread Huib Laurens
Lo sentimos, pero el Inglés es el idioma principal en esta lista. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announce] Brion Vibber to rejoin Wikimedia Foundation

2011-03-08 Thread Huib Laurens
Lo sentimos, pero el Inglés es el idioma principal en esta lista. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Juergen Fenn
Am 08.03.11 20:20, schrieb phoebe ayers: > Most (all?) university libraries sign contracts with database/journal > vendors restricting access to only faculty/staff/students at the > university. This may hold true for the U.S., but as far as Europe is concerned the situation is different in some

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues

2011-03-08 Thread Casey Brown
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:21 AM, brock.wel...@gmail.com wrote: > A second solution could be the return of the verification edit... I vaguely > recall needing to provide a diff with an edit summary stating 'I am xx on > whatever wiki'. Storing a link to that from meta keeps all needed > information

Re: [Foundation-l] [Announce] Brion Vibber to rejoin Wikimedia Foundation

2011-03-08 Thread MARIA DE LOS ANGELES HERRERA GARCIA
CANT TODO GUSTO RESPONDERIA PERO NO ENTIENDO EL INGLES POR FAVOR ,ESCRIVIR ESPAÑOL ,GRACIAS... > From: janb...@wikimedia.org > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:03:31 +0100 > To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Announce] Brion Vibber to rejoin Wikimedi

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues

2011-03-08 Thread MZMcBride
MARIA DE LOS ANGELES HERRERA GARCIA wrote: > NO ENTIENDO INGLES . POR FAVOR ESPAÑOL...GRACIAS Don't write in all caps, please. And stop complaining about people writing in a language different than your own. Shouting isn't going to change that. The fact that many threads on this list (and at Meta

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Juergen Fenn
Am 08.03.11 20:46, schrieb Samuel Klein: > Melissa -- absolutely! I don't know the real stats, but I think we > cite OA jornals far more than any others in Wikipedia for this reason. Which is certainly a rather bad idea because what always counts first must be the quality of content, not the li

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues

2011-03-08 Thread MARIA DE LOS ANGELES HERRERA GARCIA
NO ENTIENDO INGLES . POR FAVOR ESPAÑOL...GRACIAS > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 07:21:00 -0900 > From: brock.wel...@gmail.com > To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues > > A second solution could be the return of the verification

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread MARIA DE LOS ANGELES HERRERA GARCIA
DE VERDAD ,QUISIERA PERO NO SE INGLES ,SI PUDIERAS ESCRBIR EN ESPAÑOL TE LO AGRADECERIA , MUCHAS GRACIAS MERI... > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:46:00 -0500 > From: meta...@gmail.com > To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > CC: mhagem...@sorosny.org > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Samuel Klein
Melissa -- absolutely! I don't know the real stats, but I think we cite OA jornals far more than any others in Wikipedia for this reason. Approaching the problem from both sides seems useful, however, especially for historical reference works like Wikipedia and Wikibooks. We absolutely do want t

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread phoebe ayers
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > --- On Tue, 8/3/11, Fred Bauder wrote: >> From: Fred Bauder >> Fred Bauder >> I guess I would like editors to have access to archives and >> databases >> such as those ProQuest sells. Not sure how that would fit >> into our >> budget. > > >

[Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-08 Thread Melissa Hagemann
--- On Tue, Mar 8, 2011, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > > --- On Tue, 8/3/11, Fred Bauder wrote: > > From: Fred Bauder > > Fred Bauder > > I guess I would like editors to have access to archives and > > databases > > such as those ProQuest sells. Not sure how that would fit > > into our > > budget. >

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread aude
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > --- On Tue, 8/3/11, Fred Bauder wrote: > > From: Fred Bauder > > Fred Bauder > > I guess I would like editors to have access to archives and > > databases > > such as those ProQuest sells. Not sure how that would fit > > into our > > budg

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Dan Rosenthal
On Mar 8, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 8 March 2011 13:24, Jimmy Wales wrote: >> On 3/5/11 7:48 AM, MZMcBride wrote: >>> While most donations come from people outside the Wikimedia (editing) >>> community, the people within the community often feel that the very small >>> staff o

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 8 March 2011 13:24, Jimmy Wales wrote: > On 3/5/11 7:48 AM, MZMcBride wrote: >> While most donations come from people outside the Wikimedia (editing) >> community, the people within the community often feel that the very small >> staff of the past was more productive, more agile, less bloated,

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Tue, 8/3/11, Fred Bauder wrote: > From: Fred Bauder > Fred Bauder > I guess I would like editors to have access to archives and > databases > such as those ProQuest sells. Not sure how that would fit > into our > budget. I would like to second that as well -- this is a very important wa

Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser

2011-03-08 Thread Jimmy Wales
On 3/5/11 7:48 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > While most donations come from people outside the Wikimedia (editing) > community, the people within the community often feel that the very small > staff of the past was more productive, more agile, less bloated, and overall > more efficient than the larger sta

Re: [Foundation-l] Steward election issues

2011-03-08 Thread brock.wel...@gmail.com
A second solution could be the return of the verification edit... I vaguely recall needing to provide a diff with an edit summary stating 'I am xx on whatever wiki'. Storing a link to that from meta keeps all needed information on meta. The sticking point with the steward im discussing becoming com

[Foundation-l] Is the Wikimedia Strategic Plan largely a Wikimedia Foundation business plan?

2011-03-08 Thread WereSpielChequers
Re John Vandenberg's comments on the Strategic plan For a while in late 2009 I was quite active on the Strategy project, and like John Vandenburg I'm one of the hundred or more in the acknowledgements. I didn't sign up to any of the project teams as I had some real life stuff going on in early 20

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes to the CFOO department

2011-03-08 Thread Florence Devouard
Thank you Veronique for taking on that tough job of straightening WMF financial procedures from basically scratch to what they are today. I with you and your family the best of luck ! Florence On 3/3/11 9:41 PM, Veronique Kessler wrote: > Hi All, > > I'll be leaving WMF at the end of June to r

[Foundation-l] The Signpost – Volume 7, Issue 10 – 7 March 2011

2011-03-08 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: Foundation looking for "storyteller" and research fellows; new GLAM newsletter; brief news http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-03-07/News_and_notes In the news: "Truth in Numbers?" interview; 94% women; Google algorithm update; brief news http://en.wikipe

[Foundation-l] supporting small languages (was WMF 2015 strategic plan and multilingualism)

2011-03-08 Thread phoebe ayers
(changing the thread title) On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > I have proposed to spend 100,000,- Euro and this will make major > improvements for the scripts, the fonts and the standards for the languages > we have a Wikipedia for. This is given the current budget chicken