Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-14 Thread David Gerard
On 15 June 2010 00:25, Thomas Dalton wrote: > I'm not suggesting we should claim a trademark on the word "wiki" (it > wouldn't stand up). I'm suggesting that "wiki" when used as the name > of an encyclopaedia is sufficiently similar to "Wikipedia" to cause > confusion in the market (which is what

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-14 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 15 June 2010 00:17, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > >> I happen to know there is an English phrase "Doctor, heal >> thyself." >> >> You probably ANAL. But that doesn't stop you from FUDDing. >> > > I'm an anal non-lawyer, at that! I may be spreading uncertainty and

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 15 June 2010 00:20, David Gerard wrote: > On 15 June 2010 00:17, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > >> You are claiming the law is complicated. But the facts are >> plain and simple, and no amount of FUDD is going to support >> a view that there is any reasonable justification (by moral >> or juri

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 15 June 2010 00:17, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > I happen to know there is an English phrase "Doctor, heal > thyself." > > You probably ANAL. But that doesn't stop you from FUDDing. I'm an anal non-lawyer, at that! I may be spreading uncertainty and doubt and something that is very uncertain

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-14 Thread David Gerard
On 15 June 2010 00:17, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > You are claiming the law is complicated. But the facts are > plain and simple, and no amount of FUDD is going to support > a view that there is any reasonable justification (by moral > or juridifical standards) to claim WMF is the body to appl

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia trade mark misuse

2010-06-14 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 13 June 2010 23:33, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > >> If there is any party with dibs on "Wiki", that would >> be Ward Cunningham, not the WMF. >> > > Trademark law does not include an automatic right to "dibs" on a mark > to the first person to use it. (At least,

Re: [Foundation-l] clicktracking

2010-06-14 Thread Nimish Gautam
We developed clicktracking to see what buttons were being used on our toolbar. It was enabled for all Wikimedia projects that had the usability toolbar and only gave us information of the type that "a user who has an edit count of 3 just clicked the 'bold' button". Collecting such data for int

Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting

2010-06-14 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
It is actually gratifying to notice that you actually do know how to remove parts of a message you are replying to, which aren't necessary for comprehension. Thank you very much. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-

Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting

2010-06-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I agree, I replied and made my point, You either accept it or you don't. Thanks, GerardM PS I get it. On 14 June 2010 22:21, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > Mark Williamson wrote: > > I'm very disappointed that this discussion has continued at the > > expense of one that I find to b

Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting

2010-06-14 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Mark Williamson wrote: > I'm very disappointed that this discussion has continued at the > expense of one that I find to be much more important to our projects. > Can all of us go back over there and stop talking about this? Kthx. I agree. I made my point. You either get it, or you don't. Yours,

Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting

2010-06-14 Thread Mark Williamson
I'm very disappointed that this discussion has continued at the expense of one that I find to be much more important to our projects. Can all of us go back over there and stop talking about this? Kthx. m. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Domas Mituzas wrote: > kthx > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at

Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting

2010-06-14 Thread Domas Mituzas
kthx On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > An important thread has been derailed by an off topic comment. For your > information, and for the somanyth time, top posting comes easy when you use > a modern tool like GMAIL. It automatically hides whatever came before. Thi

Re: [Foundation-l] Link in the Downloads section

2010-06-14 Thread Wilfredo Rodriguez
Thank Platonides. The bug link is here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23958 -- Lcdo. Wilfredo Rafael Rodríguez Hernández msn,googletalk = wilfre...@gmail.com cv = http://www.wilfredor.co.cc blog = http://wilfredor.blogspo

Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting

2010-06-14 Thread William Pietri
On 06/14/2010 04:44 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > For your > information, and for the somanyth time, top posting comes easy when you use > a modern tool like GMAIL. It automatically hides whatever came before. This > whole notion has no relevance to me as a consequence. I get hundreds of > mails an

Re: [Foundation-l] Link in the Downloads section

2010-06-14 Thread Platonides
Wilfredo Rodriguez wrote: > Sincerely wikimedia team. > > I have a simple question. I would like to make a proposal to add an > application (link) wikipedia offline here: > > http://dumps.wikimedia.org/dvd.html > > Who should I contact? > > The project that I want to add is called Kiwix and is

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-14 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Michael Peel wrote: > [...] > Of course, any way that people reply always leaves duplicate and unnecessary > text in the email, which can be a pain when you're catching up with a large > number of emails in a thread. That's just one of the downsides of the mailing > list format, with a setup t

Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting

2010-06-14 Thread Bence Damokos
Sorry for going off-topic again in an off-topic thread of a really interesting on-topic thread.. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > > > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kthx > Time: 1 s? > > If you don't count the probability that one gets stuck on Wikipedia for hours on

[Foundation-l] Link in the Downloads section

2010-06-14 Thread Wilfredo Rodriguez
Sincerely wikimedia team. I have a simple question. I would like to make a proposal to add an application (link) wikipedia offline here: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/dvd.html Who should I contact? The project that I want to add is called Kiwix and is free: http://www.kiwix.org Thank you very mu

Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting

2010-06-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Gerard Meijssen, 14/06/2010 13:44: > For me KTHX is > one such, the top rated result makes it a radio station and it took me some > time to find that it is likely to mean "Ok, thanks". http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kthx Time: 1 s? Nemo ___ foundation-l

[Foundation-l] Top posting

2010-06-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, An important thread has been derailed by an off topic comment. For your information, and for the somanyth time, top posting comes easy when you use a modern tool like GMAIL. It automatically hides whatever came before. This whole notion has no relevance to me as a consequence. I get hundreds

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-14 Thread Casey Brown
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Casey Brown wrote: > Actually, I think Jussi-Ville's comment was very useful > For the record, I was talking about the point behind Jussi-Ville's post and not about his colorful characterization of "top-posters," which was really not helpful at all. However, you

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-14 Thread praveenp
On Monday 14 June 2010 02:52 PM, Jon Harald Søby wrote: > Tell me, how is top-posting worse than derailing a productive thread with an > off-topic rant? > > Thanks. praveenp ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-14 Thread AGK
On 14 Jun 2010, at 10:22, Jon Harald Søby wrote: > Tell me, how is top-posting worse than derailing a productive thread > with an > off-topic rant? :-) How true. AGK ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: http

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-14 Thread AGK
On 14 Jun 2010, at 09:05, Michael Peel wrote: > Is it just me, then, that finds it easier and quicker to read top > post replies than to search through large amounts of text to find > the response? Inline posting makes sense if you're replying to an > email that makes its point in the space

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-14 Thread Jon Harald Søby
2010/6/13 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > Hoi, > > This is not a problem. We use the numbers that we have. We could ask > Google > > for such numbers.. They might even be willing to share them with us. > > Thanks, > >GerardM > > > > This is not only directed at you Gera

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-14 Thread Michael Peel
Is it just me, then, that finds it easier and quicker to read top post replies than to search through large amounts of text to find the response? Inline posting makes sense if you're replying to an email that makes its point in the space of a few lines, but otherwise it seems easier to me to top