Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread Ray Saintonge
Anthony wrote: > Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > >> Do we agree with the idea, that at that >> time everything uploaded was under GNU FDL or not > Definitely not. You were supposed to release uploads under the GFDL, *if > you were the copyright owner*, but not everything that was uploaded was > under GF

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread Ray Saintonge
Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > 2010/2/20 Ray Saintonge: > >> Probabilistic arguments are difficult to establish when the majority >> still believes in legal certainty in the same way that it believes in God. >> > I am not quite sure what you wanted to say :-) Anyway - this cited > sentence is for m

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread Anthony
By the way, here's a thread from 2007, which unfortunately never came to a conclusion as to the answer to the question: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/94312 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > 2010/2/20 Thomas Dalton : > > On 20 February 2010 22:49, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > >> Evidence? :-) Is there any formal document of Wikimedia Foundation > >> Board of Trustees which says, that logo candidates are a special case > >> for copyri

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2010/2/20 Ray Saintonge : > Probabilistic arguments are difficult to establish when the majority > still believes in legal certainty in the same way that it believes in God. > I am not quite sure what you wanted to say :-) Anyway - this cited sentence is for me a nice expression of "0 tolerance"

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread Florence Devouard
I'll engage myself on all of them (GFDL presumed) I am tagging the 370. Already did 200 today. Will finish the last 170 by hand tomorrow. That's a fascinating job. Ant On 2/20/10 6:54 AM, The Cunctator wrote: > Yes. This is idiotic. The logo contest followed the same rules as all other > submi

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2010/2/20 Thomas Dalton : > On 20 February 2010 22:49, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: >> Evidence? :-) Is there any formal document of Wikimedia Foundation >> Board of Trustees which says, that logo candidates are a special case >> for copyright issues or it is just your assumption? > > Why would it be a bo

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread Ray Saintonge
K. Peachey wrote: > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > >> You're shifting the burden onto the wrong people. If the images followed >> the general rule that prevailed when they were uploaded the presumption >> is that they followed that rule unless there was an exception spec

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 20 February 2010 22:49, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > Evidence? :-) Is there any formal document of Wikimedia Foundation > Board of Trustees which says, that logo candidates are a special case > for copyright issues or it is just your assumption? Why would it be a board document? Surely it would just

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2010/2/20 geni : > On 20 February 2010 19:14, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: >> 2010/2/20 geni : >>> On 20 February 2010 05:54, The Cunctator wrote: Yes. This is idiotic. The logo contest followed the same rules as all other submissions to Wikipedia -- they were submitted under the GFDL. >>> >>>

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread Ray Saintonge
Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > Yes...Copyright paranoia in action... You can always copy those files > as long as they exists and simply create your private website with all > of them. I wonder who is going to sue you for copyvio in such the > case. I guess nobody... > > Anyway this is indeed big question

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread geni
On 20 February 2010 19:14, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > 2010/2/20 geni : >> On 20 February 2010 05:54, The Cunctator wrote: >>> Yes. This is idiotic. The logo contest followed the same rules as all other >>> submissions to Wikipedia -- they were submitted under the GFDL. >> >> Evidence? >> -- > > Evide

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread K. Peachey
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > K. Peachey wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:54 PM, The Cunctator wrote: >> >>> Yes. This is idiotic. The logo contest followed the same rules as all other >>> submissions to Wikipedia -- they were submitted under the GFDL. >>> >> Yes, but

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread Ray Saintonge
K. Peachey wrote: > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:54 PM, The Cunctator wrote: > >> Yes. This is idiotic. The logo contest followed the same rules as all other >> submissions to Wikipedia -- they were submitted under the GFDL. >> > Yes, but not everyone knows that and any tom, dick or harry tha

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2010/2/20 geni : > On 20 February 2010 05:54, The Cunctator wrote: >> Yes. This is idiotic. The logo contest followed the same rules as all other >> submissions to Wikipedia -- they were submitted under the GFDL. > > Evidence? > -- Evidence of what? At the beginning on all Wikipedias as well as m

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Please HELP save Wikipedia history ! (urgent)

2010-02-20 Thread geni
On 20 February 2010 05:54, The Cunctator wrote: > Yes. This is idiotic. The logo contest followed the same rules as all other > submissions to Wikipedia -- they were submitted under the GFDL. Evidence? -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-