Re: [jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33246) Apache Flex Mavenizer needs a 'better' README

2012-11-09 Thread Erik de Bruin
rit...@gmx.de] > > Gesendet: Freitag, 9. November 2012 11:31 > > An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > > Betreff: Re: [jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33246) Apache Flex Mavenizer > > needs a 'better' README > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > Just trie

Re: [FALCON] Fonts Question

2012-11-12 Thread Erik de Bruin
> That said, looking forward at Flex on JS, is there font embedding in > HTML/CSS? Not sure about true embedding, but there is: http://caniuse.com/fontface EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl

Re: Installer release is a go!

2012-11-12 Thread Erik de Bruin
I've update the config.xml to show a relative path to the Installer binaries, which causes the Badge to use the mirrors. I've also update the link in the navigation panel to point to 'installer.html' instead of 'installerTmp.html', so we're basically live now. Anything I forgot? EdB On Tue, N

A warm welcome to the newest PPMC members, please!

2012-11-14 Thread Erik de Bruin
Hi all, I'm glad to inform you that we can officially welcome the latest 2 members of the PPMC: Gordon Smith and Peter Ent Both Peter and Gordon work at Adobe. For this project, Gordon is working on the Falcon compiler, while Peter is busy "kicking" Mustella into shape. Let's give them a warm w

Promoting Apache Flex

2012-11-14 Thread Erik de Bruin
Hello all, Now the Installer is released, and with graduation (maybe ;-)) right around the corner, I think it's time to start thinking about how we are going to promote Apache Flex to "the rest of the world". After the bad press surrounding the donation of Flex by Adobe at the start of this year a

Re: [VOTE] Alex Harui for PMC Chair of Apache Flex

2012-11-14 Thread Erik de Bruin
+1 EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl

Re: [VOTE] Alex Harui for PMC Chair of Apache Flex

2012-11-14 Thread Erik de Bruin
I guess the same as with the rest of us… Or is Adobe paying you to work on the project? EdB On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > I don't have any issues at all with Alex or him in this position, but > before I throw in my +1 I have a question: what happens when Adobe decides

Re: [VOTE] Alex Harui for PMC Chair of Apache Flex

2012-11-14 Thread Erik de Bruin
> > > I guess the same as with the rest of us… Or is Adobe paying you to work > on > > the project? > > > No it's not the same as the rest of us, his job at Adobe is to spend time > on this project, and I'm sure other things. So what happens when they > remove him from said role. > What I was tryi

Re: [FALCON] It starts with an idea

2012-11-15 Thread Erik de Bruin
Hi Mike, Please don't let too much get lost in translation! I think everyone is working towards the same goal here: we want to be able to have a tool that allows us to "write once, play everywhere." No-one can (re)build such a tool on their own, so we need to work together, each on the part of the

Re: [FALCON] It starts with an idea

2012-11-15 Thread Erik de Bruin
In short, Android delivery is one implementation of the cross platform API (swiss army knife)? EdB On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:31 PM, aYo ~ wrote: > I agree with Mike again, I feel that the idea of creating an android bridge > does not conflict with cross platform compatibility. It gives the d

Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in Flashplayer 12?

2012-11-15 Thread Erik de Bruin
Wasn't the point of the above discussion (and others) that there would be an API/bridge/whatever that would allow compilation/publication from AS/MXML to lots of different platforms? Like Android, or to Flash Next or JS, iOS etc. How about if we look at this from our various perspectives/strengths

Re: List of Inactive Apache Flex PPMC Members

2012-11-15 Thread Erik de Bruin
I for one think PMC members should show a little more merit than sending one email they want to be PMC members. This is after all not the initial sign up for the PPMC, and the Apache organisation is a meritocracy. How about the previously inactive members asking to be kept on as PMC members write

Re: List of Inactive Apache Flex PPMC Members

2012-11-15 Thread Erik de Bruin
Just to be clear, I'm not trying to kick anybody out. I only think it's fair that we hold the PMC members to the same standards as we do prospective committers, don't you? EdB On Thursday, November 15, 2012, Carol Frampton wrote: > > > On 11/15/12 3 :45PM, "Eri

Re: [POLL] - Must Flex 5 be a complete rewrite or can flex code base be re-architectured?

2012-11-16 Thread Erik de Bruin
Unless we want to release Flex 5 somewhere in the next decade, if at all, my opinion is we work with what we have, which is a lot, and add/change what we need. Also, wouldn't a complete rewrite of the framework, compiler and client side (delivery) platforms be an entirely new project? EdB On F

Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in Flashplayer 12?

2012-11-16 Thread Erik de Bruin
Let me ask you this first: what, in your opinion, is Flex? EdB On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM, sébastien Paturel wrote: > With that logic, why flex in AS4, or flex in Haxe or whatever not AS3, > would make it not to be Flex anymore? > > I understand the point about the large existing code bas

Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in Flashplayer 12?

2012-11-16 Thread Erik de Bruin
g/mod_mbox/incubator-flex-** > dev/201211.mbox/%3C50A55DE7.**6...@gmail.com%3E<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-flex-dev/201211.mbox/%3c50a55de7@gmail.com%3E> > > Feel free to disagree :) > > Le 16/11/2012 14:30, Erik de Bruin a écrit : > > Let me ask you th

Current compiler question

2012-11-17 Thread Erik de Bruin
As a complete compiler noob, but can somebody answer this: Can we not build a 'mxmlcJS'? I understand that Falcon was specifically designed to have a 'variable backend' that allows for FalconJS to be hooked in. Is something like that feasible with the 'previous generation' compiler(s)? The advant

Re: Current compiler question

2012-11-17 Thread Erik de Bruin
iscuss using what we have and know to work. EdB On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 11/17/12 4:47 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > > > As a complete compiler noob, but can somebody answer this: > > > > Can we not build a '

Re: Public API for new AVM in Flashplayer 12 (was: Re: Anybody on this list that signed the NDA for the new Flashplayer 12?)

2012-11-18 Thread Erik de Bruin
Actively asking someone to (anonymously) violate their NDA, on a public forum no less, seems somewhat desperate. A desperation which is uncalled for, as there is no way that we'll have the framework completely rewritten by the time the new AVM will be public. Let's try to be constructive and produ

Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-18 Thread Erik de Bruin
Hi, I have followed the various instructions and was able to successfully build the Falcon compiler. Along the way I encountered several issues that are not yet documented (I'm on OS X 10.8): - I needed to edit the 'build.xml' file on line 50, to point the 'sdk.branch' property to the correct loc

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-18 Thread Erik de Bruin
'wipe' and build again, I see one specific warning (other than a couple of the above): "Warning: /Users/erik/Documents/ApacheFlex/svn/apacheFlex-sdk/ant/lib does not exist." Help? EdB On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > Hi, > > I have fol

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-18 Thread Erik de Bruin
unit] TEST org.apache.flex.compiler.internal.tree.mxml.MXMLArrayNodeTests FAILED Does that point to something I need to change before my local environment is 'fit to test'? EdB On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > I do see some warnings on the 'compiler' build: > > "[javac] > /Users/erik/Docu

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-18 Thread Erik de Bruin
e(Unknown Source) at org.apache.flex.compiler.internal.tree.mxml.MXMLArrayNodeTests.MXMLArrayNode_empty1(Unknown Source) Doesn't look good ;-) EdB On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Yeah, that is not right, there is something failing in your setup. > > Look at the stack traces of the errors. >

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-18 Thread Erik de Bruin
e one functional test that has like 4 warnings it fails on. > > > Mike > > Quoting Erik de Bruin : > >> Ha, I just found the 'result' directory, must be 'hidden' in the >> Eclipse project… >> >> Here is another snippet: >> >>

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-18 Thread Erik de Bruin
view in Eclipse to show you where >> exactly the null pointer was. >> >> But let me say this again, I have the same code as you and my tests are all >> green except the one functional test that has like 4 warnings it fails on. >> >> >> Mi

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-18 Thread Erik de Bruin
Eclipse… Now trying ant in Terminal... EdB On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Cyrill Zadra wrote: > Ok.. mhh > > How do you execute the junit tests? > > With ant script or eclipse? > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Erik de Bruin wrote: >> Cyrill, >> >>

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-18 Thread Erik de Bruin
er.java:683) at org.eclipse.jdt.internal.junit.runner.RemoteTestRunner.run(RemoteTestRunner.java:390) at org.eclipse.jdt.internal.junit.runner.RemoteTestRunner.main(RemoteTestRunner.java:197) EdB On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > Eclipse… > > Now trying ant in Terminal... >

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Flex

2012-11-18 Thread Erik de Bruin
+1 (binding) EdB On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Harbs wrote: > +1 > > Harbs -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Flex

2012-11-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
Peter, your vote IS binding now ;-) EdB On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Peter Ent wrote: > +1 > > --peter > > On 11/19/12 10:03 AM, "Carol Frampton" wrote: > >>[ X ] +1 Graduate Apache Flex from Incubator >> >> >>Carol (binding) >> > -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
407340654.mxml > MXMLArrayNode(MXMLArrayID) "Array" 2:8 loc: 194-205 abs: 194-205 > C:\Users\Graphix\projects\libraries\flex\falcon\trunk\compiler.tests\temp\MXMLBooleanNodeTests1363968697407340654.mxml > > > Then you have something wrong with the compilation unit not being created > which means y

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
Thank you! I already figured out the first 3, but not the 'sdk.branch', good suggestion. EdB On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Carol Frampton wrote: > > > On 11/18/12 12 :55PM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I have followed the various

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
v 19, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > Thank you! I already figured out the first 3, but not the > 'sdk.branch', good suggestion. > > EdB > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Carol Frampton wrote: >> >> >> On 11/18/12 12 :55PM, "

Re: [jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33266) Make it easy for developers to do a targetted Mustella test run that doesnt take hours

2012-11-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
Well, believe it or not, developers are "users" too and an AIR app allows for a (better) UI, improving usability and allowing for a richer feature set with a shallower learning curve. EdB On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Carol Frampton wrote: > > > On 11/19/12 2 :01PM, "Om" wrote: > >>What Fre

Say "Hi" to 5 (!) new Apache Flex Committers

2012-11-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
All, Let's all join in welcoming our 5 new committers: Carlos Rovira (carlosrovira) Christofer Dutz (cdutz) Cyrill Zadra (czadra) Frederic Thomas (fthomas) Jose Barragan (josebarragan) These folks have been instrumental in giving the project the momentum it needed to graduate (soon, I'm sure) an

Re: FalconJS Donation Approved

2012-11-20 Thread Erik de Bruin
Let the games begin! EdB On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:45 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > Hi folks, > > The FalconJS donation was signed off today. It software grant has to be > processed by Adobe then by Apache before the code hits SVN. Given the > holiday week in the US, it isn’t clear if it will al

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Flex

2012-11-20 Thread Erik de Bruin
the person holding such office to >>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >>>> of the Apache Flex Project, and to have primary responsibility >>>> for management of the projects within the scope of >>>&g

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-20 Thread Erik de Bruin
tests need to pass on my system before I can start contributing, I need some input. If solving the reason why they fail is some sort of initiation rite, it's going to take me a bit more time to get into the 'inner circle' ;-) EdB 1: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33271

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-20 Thread Erik de Bruin
here is you are on OSX, but I think Carol is to. > > I just ran my tests from the compiler.tests/build.xml and all passed. > > Unfortunately, without sitting next to you and looking, I have no idea what > is going wrong. I bet it is something small and ridiculous though. > > >

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-20 Thread Erik de Bruin
quot; until Monday > email so you'll either have to wait or debug it. > > Carol > > On 11/20/12 7 :17AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > >>Just guessing now, but: the MXML is read from a file in the 'temp' >>dir, right? If I put a breakpoint somew

Re: Falcon compiler(.tests) building

2012-11-20 Thread Erik de Bruin
different platforms in Java? > If you know, you can fix the code in > compiler.tests/unit-tests/org/apache/flex/compiler/internal/tree/mxml/MXMLNo > deBaseTests.java > > And maybe elsewhere. > > -Alex > > On 11/20/12 8:34 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > >>

Re: Apache Flex SDK Developer Tool Suite (was: Say "Hi" to 5 (!) new Apache Flex Committers)

2012-11-20 Thread Erik de Bruin
Frederic, While you are of course free to work wherever you want - I think, I'm not sure if you can use the Apache brand outside of the Apache playground, maybe someone has some input on that subject - I have to ask: you are now a committer, why don't you use the project SVN repo instead of Github

Re: write access to cms

2012-11-20 Thread Erik de Bruin
I think he is using: https://cms.apache.org/flex/publish At least that is the URL I gave him so he can publish the change(s) he made to the staging site (via SVN commit) to the live site. This is what I always use, and I don't see the problem he is describing so I figured there might still be so

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Apache Flex

2012-11-21 Thread Erik de Bruin
t > Carol Frampton > Leif Wells > Michelle Yaiser > Jeffry Houser > Michael Schmalle > Michael Labriola > Peter Elst > João Fernandes > Christophe Herreman > Bertrand Delacretaz (mentor) > Sebastian Mohr > Erik de Bruin > Jun Heider > Gordon Smith > Gre

Rushing into Git

2012-11-21 Thread Erik de Bruin
Hi, At least one vital service (the website) is more than just a SVN repo. A post-commit hook activates the 'buildbot' on every commit. How will this be 'translated' when the Git move happens? Do we have access to the buildbot outside the SVN infrastructure? Do we know which other services (commi

Re: Rushing into Git

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
(<- note this qualifier), we're likely to be "on our own". I'm not sure that risking the loss of INFRA support is a wise thing for a project just about to graduate… EdB On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > On Wednesday, November 21, 2012, Erik

Re: Rushing into Git

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
Omar, >> From the threads here and on the private list I get the feeling that >> at least one of our mentors has reservations about the legal standing >> of Git repos in relation to Apache.org. > > > Those concerns have been expressed before, during, and after the vote. It > obviously did not dete

Re: Which Mustella tests use the Apache HTTPd server?

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
Om, I don't know about specific tests, but might a source search for 'localhost' not bring up a few? EdB On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Om wrote: > I am trying to eliminate the need for Apache HTTPd by creating a socket > based server in an AIR app itself. The AIR based server is working,

Re: Rushing into Git

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
d write up the current status of the move, the planned actions for the move and the implications of the move for contributors, committers and the project in general? Thanks, EdB On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Erik de Bruin wro

Re: Rushing into Git

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
> communitcation to give us feedback of the next steps. We should have into > account that we have a move out of incubation and that should be a great > point in time to make the switch. In my opinion combining the two moves would be, euphemistically speaking, a sub-optimal course of action. EdB

Re: Rushing into Git

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
Well, there are a 'few' things the project and it's contributors need to do themselves after graduation: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#project-first-steps EdB On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Er

Re: write access to cms

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
ublish with your user and see if > it's working? other possibility is that something could we broken in the > publish functionality. > > Thanks > > > > 2012/11/21 Erik de Bruin > >> I think he is using: >> >> https://cms.apache.org/flex/publish >>

Re: write access to cms

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
nd ;-) EdB On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Carlos Rovira wrote: > Hi Erik, > > right! I see now the changes live thanks! :) > > So as you say is a problem with privileges. What would be the next step? > send an email or something? > > Thanks! > > > 2012/11/22 Eri

Re: write access to cms

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
@Frederic: published To all committers who can't publish (for whatever reason): feel free to drop me a (private) email requesting a publish, I'll do it asap. EdB On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Carlos Rovira wrote: > Ok, if I don't have to grants on CMS it's ok for me. If I should change >

Re: Rushing into Git

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
The best of both worlds? EdB On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Frédéric THOMAS wrote: > Hi, > > The only problem at the moment seems that the svn/git mirroring is slow. > > I don't know if it's applicable for asf or even if they already considered > it but in the last company I've been working

Re: write access to cms

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
wrote: > Cheers Erik, can you please redo it as I just changed it agin to complete my > info :$ > I'll pay more attention from now as I have to ask someone to publish it and > I don't want to waste its time. > > - Fred. > > -Message d'origine- From:

Re: write access to cms

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
gt; >> EdB >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Frédéric THOMAS >> wrote: >> >>> Cheers Erik, can you please redo it as I just changed it agin to complete >>> my >>> info :$ >>> I'll pay more attention from now as I

Re: write access to cms

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
hatever role you decided) can evaluate the contribution and admit or > discard it from-to our work branch/es . > > That it's, more or less.. > > Best, > -- > Jose Barragan > Software Architect Chief > Codeoscopic Madrid > C/. Infanta Mercedes, 92. > Planta 5. 505. &

Re: Rushing into Git

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
To be fair, Carlos is working - as hard as the system allows him - to get this done. Credit where credit is due. EdB On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > >> Furthermore, I would hardly say that we are about to "rush into this >> without thinking about the 'in real life

Re: write access to cms

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
Unless I read those articles incorrectly (very likely, given my inexperience with Git), both GitFlow and GithubFlow are aimed at making a Git based workflow LESS DECENTRALISED, which I think is something close to perfectly ironic. What am I missing? EdB On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Justin M

Planning for Git

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
Since we can't indefinitely postpone the inevitable, I think we should start to plan for the move to Git. I think at least these points should be addressed (if they haven't already been, in which case they should be documented such that they can be easily referenced, e.g. on the Wiki): 1) once Git

Re: Planning for Git

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
> just as long as the CI Server supports that particular Repo type. I don't > quite get what the "buildbot hooks" are needed for. The buildbot takes the content files and the templates for the website and automatically applies one to the other, uploading the resulting files to the staging site. T

Re: Planning for Git

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
>> 2) several committers are "on loan" from Adobe for a very specific >> goal (Peter and Gordon). Are they comfortable working with Git, >> willing and able (in that they have enough time available to do so) to >> learn Git, or would moving to Git mean that they are no longer able to >> contribute?

Re: Planning for Git

2012-11-22 Thread Erik de Bruin
> So, any questions that you might have regarding Git, GitHub, Git clients > and workflows I would be happy to help you get through. I will do my best > to either explain it to the best of my ability or direct you to some > resources that will hopefully help you better understand Git. Thank you! I

Re: FalconJS has landed

2012-11-26 Thread Erik de Bruin
Hi, FYI, I'm working on an POC for using a Module Pattern combined with Google Closure annotations to get a Javascript class as close to AS3 as I can get it. This might serve as a starting point for defining the FalconJS output. EdB On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > O

Re: FalconJS has landed

2012-11-26 Thread Erik de Bruin
based api? > > I am having big hopes for Falcon as the only part of the hand-over process > to be honest. > And not necessarily in conjunction of flex but as a pure AS3 - JS evaluator. > > Best > Dan > > > > On 11/26/2012 10:48 AM, Erik de Bruin wrote: >> &

Re: FalconJS has landed

2012-11-26 Thread Erik de Bruin
> Looks like we'll have some fun debating which JS pattern to use. In a five > minute drive-by of the Module Pattern, I found this [1]. The internet is split 50-50 on this subject, as is usual for these types of discussions. Having read a few more articles on this and similar subjects over the la

Re: FalconJS has landed

2012-11-26 Thread Erik de Bruin
>> Me, I don't like to have to use a 'framework' (even a tiny one) to >> make something happen. It adds a layer between the code and the >> execution that I think we don't need and therefor should avoid. As >> others have pointed out, maintaining performance will be major >> challenge, so using JS

Re: FalconJS has landed

2012-11-27 Thread Erik de Bruin
Alex, You keep referring to a "prototype". I might be missing something. Where can I find it/how do I run it? EdB On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 11/26/12 1:15 PM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > >>> Instead, I want

Re: New Spark components

2012-11-27 Thread Erik de Bruin
Bogdan, Please look at [1]. It tells you that you need to fill in an ICLA [2] and send it to 'secret...@apache.org'. The secretary will inform the PPMC when you ICLA has been processed. Meanwhile you can create a JIRA ticket [3] with all relevant information and attach your donation to it. This wi

Re: FalconJS has landed

2012-11-27 Thread Erik de Bruin
> p = DisplayObject.extend(EventDispatcher); > > THis is obviously simplified form of what is really needed but it is good > enough to cover lots of aspects already. > Don't want to repeat what has been already sent here as examples, but > simplicity and speed of this solutio

Re: FalconJS has landed

2012-11-27 Thread Erik de Bruin
Nice, thank you! EdB On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 11/27/12 12:06 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > >> Alex, >> >> You keep referring to a "prototype". I might be missing something. >> Where can I find i

Re: FalconJS has landed

2012-11-27 Thread Erik de Bruin
> I would like to hear about pros of module pattern myself. Prove me wrong, I > will shout up :) > I am not JS expert. But let's not make design decisions based on the latests > trends, but technical reasoning. > > Dan > > > On 11/27/2012 4:38 PM, Erik de Bruin wr

Re: FalconJS "Demo" checked in

2012-11-28 Thread Erik de Bruin
Thank you Alex. FYI, I was able to hack in an Image component by copying and modifying the Label component in framework.js and 'faking' the generated code that implements it. So that's promising for future work ;-) Note: I thought I'd add another Label in the mix. This showed up and initiated wel

Re: FalconJS "Demo" checked in

2012-11-28 Thread Erik de Bruin
>> Are we ready to put the framework.js in the FalconJS develop branch so >> we can all work on it? > IMO, framework.js shouldn't be in the FalconJS branch. It is as independent > of FalconJS as any of the AS code is independent of Falcon. > > I would refactor framework.js into separate js files s

Re: [FalconJS] concepts

2012-11-28 Thread Erik de Bruin
> That said, because we are cross compiling AS, does the classic route support > as many features of AS, especially the reflection-oriented features? We > want to try to compile business logic untouched and it might be using "is", > "in", "instanceof", etc. Resig's blog seems to indicate that sup

Re: [FalconJS] concepts

2012-11-29 Thread Erik de Bruin
Mike, Can you explain a little bit (maybe in pseudo-code or whatever) about how the AS3 -> Falcon -> FalsonJS -> JS 'compilation' process works? What I'm looking for is an idea of how the JS output is put together, if you will. Example: how easy (or difficult) is it to exchange one JS "class" crea

Re: [FalconJS] concepts

2012-11-29 Thread Erik de Bruin
dular" the > IBackend really is and what it would enable us todo as far as creating > different implementations of emitters. > > Mike > > > > > > > - [0] > http://markmail.org/message/e3szly6i6ejq56eg?q=+list:org%2Eapache%2Eincubator%2Eflex-dev&page=6 > > > >

Re: [FalconJS] concepts

2012-11-29 Thread Erik de Bruin
Actually, the third argument of 'adobe.extend()' is what can probably considered "the rest" of the output of the JSEmitter (yes, Mike, it did make a little more sense). And that "the rest: is a "simple" object literal, which can easily be parse (as the 'extend' method does). If you want to change

Re: [FlaconJS] pseudo emitter algorithm

2012-11-29 Thread Erik de Bruin
Thanks, Mike! EdB On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Hi, > > For those asking question about "where to alter" code, it's not pretty but I > think I know exactly what is going on now. > > If you can understand below, you will now have some insight to where and how > the

Re: FalconJS "Demo" checked in

2012-11-30 Thread Erik de Bruin
lop' branch. Thanks, EdB On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > I branched my whiteboard into the root. I decided to call it "asjs" because > we are developing parallel as and js frameworks. There is a develop branch > in there where we should be making our

Re: FalconJS "Demo" checked in

2012-11-30 Thread Erik de Bruin
nch. I'm going to be in the > falcon folders for a while anyway (I think). > > > On 11/30/12 8:05 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > >> I've branched the root into my whiteboard. >> >> I'm currently doing a major reorganisation of the JS framework (

[FalconJS] Using Google Closure Tools

2012-12-04 Thread Erik de Bruin
Hi, After a lot of reading, trying and testing, as well as looking at the current code and compiler output, I think the project is best of using the Google Closure Tools. Both for developing and deploying FlexJS components and applications. I've implemented them into the FlexJS workflow, and provi

Re: [FalconJS] Using Google Closure Tools

2012-12-04 Thread Erik de Bruin
commit emails from you. > > > On 12/4/12 7:50 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> After a lot of reading, trying and testing, as well as looking at the >> current code and compiler output, I think the project is best of using >> the

Re: Welcome Chema Balsas as Apache Flex Committer!

2012-12-05 Thread Erik de Bruin
Excellent! Congratulations Chema. EdB On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Om wrote: > Team, > > Please join me in welcoming Chema Balsas as our newest committer. He has > been actively working on flex-config related work and is interested in the > Falcon and FalconJS areas. > > Thanks, > Om > Apa

[ASJS] refactored JS framework and added publishing tool set

2012-12-05 Thread Erik de Bruin
Hi, As the subject suggest, I've completely refactored the JS framework and added the start of a publishing publishing tool set. What does this mean? 1. I've taken the JS framework that was donated by Adobe, taken it apart and put it back together again in such a way that it now play nicely with

Re: [ASJS] refactored JS framework and added publishing tool set

2012-12-05 Thread Erik de Bruin
> On 12/5/12 4:39 PM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As the subject suggest, I've completely refactored the JS framework >> and added the start of a publishing publishing tool set. What does >> this mean? >> >> 1. I've take

Re: [ASJS] repo location

2012-12-06 Thread Erik de Bruin
Wow, my bad :-( I had a working copy of Alex's whiteboard as a start of my own, and subsequently confused that with the new location. Fixing now. Sorry for any inconvenience. EdB On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Hi, > > Did I miss something or is there a reason Erik

Re: [ASJS] Some information on "templates"

2012-12-06 Thread Erik de Bruin
Mike, After I'm done fixing the mess I made in SVN, I'll start work on the 'template', but here is the basic idea to get you started: I would like the compiler to output "intermediate" JS, by which I mean "human readable". My Publisher then takes this intermediate code and puts it through the Goog

Re: [ASJS] Some information on "templates"

2012-12-06 Thread Erik de Bruin
have a component platform that can start to be integrated with Flex > components? ... our new component framework I mean. > """ > > Mike > > > > > > > > Quoting Erik de Bruin : > >> Mike, >> >> After I'm done fixing the

Re: [ASJS] repo location

2012-12-06 Thread Erik de Bruin
And another commits torrent gone by. Fixed now. EdB On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > Wow, my bad :-( > > I had a working copy of Alex's whiteboard as a start of my own, and > subsequently confused that with the new location. > > Fixing now. Sorr

[WIKI] edit privileges request

2012-12-06 Thread Erik de Bruin
Hi, Can I please have editing privileges on the Wiki? Thanks, EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl

Re: [ASJS] Some information on "templates"

2012-12-06 Thread Erik de Bruin
a way to allow for speedy development of both projects as well as the frameworks. EdB On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > > Quoting Carol Frampton : > >> >> >> On 12/6/12 7 :49AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >> >>> Mike,

Re: [ASJS] Some information on "templates"

2012-12-06 Thread Erik de Bruin
; "myFunction::2" : true > } > > adobe.classes["com.example.components.MyTextButton"] = > com.example.components.MyTextButton; > > /CODE > //= > > > Is this a base we can work off o

Re: [Falcon] Unit tests failing

2012-12-06 Thread Erik de Bruin
> Also, I think it involves changing the build script to download base.js from > google. This is probably a silly question, but why? The compiler is not supposed to put the code through the Closure Compiler in the new setup. Doing that would mean we'd loose an important optimisation step which in

Re: [FalconJS] changing to base.js was: (Re: [Falcon] Unit tests failing)

2012-12-06 Thread Erik de Bruin
Well, I did put some effort into writing the README in the publisher dir in the develop branch of asjs. Once I have access I'll elaborate further on the Wiki. EdB On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Michael Schmalle wrote: > > Someone needs to give Erik WIKI permissions to edit so he can get up a

Re: [ASJS] Some information on "templates"

2012-12-06 Thread Erik de Bruin
as no correlation > in .as. What about that? > > > Mike > > > > > Quoting Erik de Bruin : > > That looks very promising! Some tweaking is needed, and some of the > output (the bottom part mostly, I guess that is for some kind of > introspection that is

Re: [ASJS] Some information on "templates"

2012-12-06 Thread Erik de Bruin
>> How do you propose helping "design" the output and possibly integrating >> code you have already written? >> > > To get more concrete, why not starting a first iteration trying to get > Falcon to generate code in the Jangaroo Runtime "DSL" format, and use the > ... > When we got the basic langua

[ASJS] Jangaroo questions

2012-12-06 Thread Erik de Bruin
Hi. With the FalconJS conversation mentioning Jangaroo repeatedly and since I have no experience with that tool, some questions: 1) how does Jangaroo integrate with Flash Builder, allowing for development of the AS project in that tool? 2) does Jangaroo have a library of graphical user interface

[ASJS] Adjusting FalconJS output (no general discussion in this thread, please)

2012-12-07 Thread Erik de Bruin
Mike, I'm not sure what will work best for this process, but for now I'll try inlining my comments (in square brackets, BELOW the line they're about) into "your" output and see if that makes sense. //= // JS CODE /** @preserve CROSS-

Re: [ASJS] Adjusting FalconJS output (no general discussion in this thread, please)

2012-12-07 Thread Erik de Bruin
>> [#Insert 'goog.requires()'; the equivalent of 'import' in AS] > > We should take care to only generate goog.requires() for imports that are > requires is the equivalent of import. We just need import statements to > resolve not-fully-qualified identifiers, the dependencies have to > be tracked s

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