On 2/22/12 11:36 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> With a tag on the framework directory we can easily checkout the trunk before
> any changes that are made to it. We don't actually even need a tag a svn
> checkout -revision 1290843 will get the framework as it was initially donated
> by A
W dniu 2012-02-23 04:55, Martin Heidegger pisze:
Hello List,
I think we need new ideas for user interface designs created with
Flex. New compared to the efforts in the Android/iOS community but
also just spectacular ones.
What do you think?
yours
Martin.
It's good idea and I've thought ab
Hi Alex,
> Let's say the SVN with history is rev 1000. You are about to commit rev
> 1001. Later we'll add in the compiler at rev 1002. To build parity, we
> want 1000 and 1002, but not 1001. I don't think tags can do that, but I've
> never used them.
It's simple to do.
1. Extra stuff is chec
Hi,
Sorry I got the option in FB slightly wrong it's actually "Switch to another
Branch/Tag/Revision" but (I hope) you can can see it's easy to do. That's
for subclipse version 1.6 may be slightly different in other versions.
Thanks,
Justin
There is a confusion about the way in which E4X will not be accessible - it
is only inaccessible to you, as a form of syntax, when you write code in
HaXe. You can use methods of XML class (it's also referred to as E4X
sometimes). So, if you wanted to do:
xml..*.@foo
you couldn't write that in HaX
I think the first step should be to create new skins for the current Spark
components. Designers could make designs for them (ideally using a tool
that enables export to FXG like Illustrator) and then developers can create
skins out of them.
Haykel
On 23 February 2012 09:41, Tomasz Maciąg | Fu
This would be great. I've been working on some things like this. I've
created skins for OSX like scrollbars [1], a throw button [2] and skins for
search text input (I'll have to post it).
The throw button is any button that emits events when you press on it and
drag into a direction.
In the examp
*Note: If you double click on the button in the example [2] it shows the
another screen showing another example.
2012/2/23 jude
> This would be great. I've been working on some things like this. I've
> created skins for OSX like scrollbars [1], a throw button [2] and skins for
> search text inpu
The very purpose behind going towards a Haxe implementation of Flex is to
make it platform agnostic ( VM agnostic? )..
If we can do this with the least amount of pain, then yes.. Haxe can be a
very possible and viable choice. Ofcourse going to another language means
losing some of the features tha
+1 from my side ...
A quick reminder of my former post [1] ... I have created a petition
regarding
this issue for the "Design View" in Flash Builder and Flash Catalyst [2].
Discontinuing "Design View" in Flash Builder and Flash Catalyst means:
• This is bad news for all people who prefer to de
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
> Maybe Falcon will do a non-NDA pre-release so you can see the code...
>
I think that's what all of us are asking for if we can't get the compiler
any sooner.
...but I don't think you can go modify it and put it in the Apache SVN.
The same
On 23/02/2012 17:41, Tomasz Maciąg | Fuse Collective wrote:
However I'm not entirely sure how to tackle and two basic ideas
Before researching anything you'd always have an inspiration idea first.
Scribble down whatever idea grows in your mind to the point it is
explainable to the list: j
On 23/02/2012 18:25, jude wrote:
[1] http://www.judahfrangipane.com/examples/minimalscrollbars/
[2] http://www.judahfrangipane.com/examples/throwbutton/ThrowButtonDesktop.html
Great start, thinks like that really help! Once we have a little more I
will start collecting them in the wiki.
On 2
- Original Message -
From: "Dimitri k."
At the Paris Flex meeting, I spoke with Thibault Imbert, who is Senior
Runtimes product manager , about the fact that the Apache Flex project
would
really benefit from having some kind of early access to the new Falcon
compiler, at least to undest
W dniu 2012-02-23 11:27, Martin Heidegger pisze:
Before researching anything you'd always have an inspiration idea
first. Scribble down whatever idea grows in your mind to the point it
is explainable to the list: just far enough to start a discussion.
Inspiration for developers.
yours
Martin.
On 23/02/2012 20:08, Tomasz Maciąg | Fuse Collective wrote:
It also depends on how you inspiration process works. Basically you're
right, but I meant making research before anything else so I won't try
to reinvent something that already has been done. I'm not up to date
with new/cool ideas for
On 23/02/2012 17:53, Left Right wrote:
There is a confusion about the way in which E4X will not be accessible -
e4x is a language feature. Different access is per-definition not e4x.
It just means we would
need to use other tools.
inline function getDefinition(name) { return untyped
__globa
+1 to mandatory semicolon.
I always thought why this was not mandatory.
Regards,
Saurabh
That was mostly intended to answer what Michael Labriola said in another
thread (it kind of gets spread across multiple threads, or Gmail can't keep
the track properly, if people reply with different title message).
What he said was something along these lines: "there are large projects
that use Fl
Just wanted to drop a small note.
If it is decided to prototype something in haxe, or check whether a
required feature can be implemented with macros, I'm happy to provide
help coding, advise or fetching the right person from the haxe
community.
All the best,
- Niel
On 23/02/2012, Martin Heideg
2012/2/23 Justin Mclean
> For instance I was amused by this (it occurs multiple times):
>
>
Heh heh, perfect example of why code comments need to be well thought out,
and in particular why redundant comments should be avoided. What does the
coment add to the code here (that is, if the comment we
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
> ...I think Omar might be right. We create a single branch (not necessarily on
> the whiteboard), you and others check in their changes there, later we merge
> them in. Right after the parity release we want cut another release with
> your cha
Hi,
In https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-14 I've provided a patch to
improve the SDK build process so that it can target a wider ranges of Flash
Player versions and locales.
Changes to the build_framework.xml file include:
- Enables compilation of the framework SDK for flash player 10
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On 2/23/12 3 :42AM, "Justin Mclean" wrote:
>It's simple to do.
>1. Extra stuff is checked in making revision 1001
>2. The compiler is checkin making revision 1002
>
>To make baseline build you'd need to:
>1. Check out everything (you get full version 1002)
>2. Check out frameworks directory rev
Android has a highly organized, hierarchical approach to their UI Design,
Get Started
-Creative Vision
-Design Principles
-UI Overview
Style
-Devices and Displays
-Themes
-Touch Feedback
-Metrics and Grids
-Typography
-Color
-Iconography
-Writing Style
Patterns
-New
-Gestures
-App Structure
-Nav
On 24/02/2012 01:38, David Francis Buhler wrote:
Android has a highly organized, hierarchical approach to their UI Design,
[1] http://developer.android.com/design/index.html
A awesome resource for touch based design! Thanks.
yours
Martin.
The only question/reference point I have is the lack of requirement
for this in several other languages I've recently been learning, i.e.
Ruby, Python, Scala (IIRC). They can compile just fine with or
without ';'. Is it really that important to make this required?
JP
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:
I second the idea of putting together a bit of a styleguide for people to
use when building applications... maybe a combination of best practices and
examples for what you can do with the framework.
I also would encourage us to employ some talented developer/designers to
create a new default spark
It can be confuse without semicolon when you're actually looking at
thousands lines of code.
>From my opinion, semicolons can prevent human error prone, reduce guess
work, knowing where is the starting and ending statement.
It similar to English sentence.
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:10 AM, JP Bade
> From: JP Bader [mailto:j...@zavteq.com]
> Sent: 23 February 2012 17:10
>
> The only question/reference point I have is the lack of requirement for
this in several other
> languages I've recently been learning, i.e. Ruby, Python, Scala (IIRC).
They can compile
> just fine with or without ';'.
> From: James Ong [mailto:yanlile...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 23 February 2012 17:24
> It can be confuse without semicolon when you're actually looking at
thousands lines of code.
I'd suggest that thousands lines of code will confuse no matter how well
laid out the code ;)
David.
Apache does not "employ" anyone. If you are a designer or know a
designer that wants to help: It is a great thing to contribute this sort
of things.
However: Please use a new thread for that topic. I started this thread
to find new ideas for the next flex user interface.
yours
Martin.
On 24/0
On 2/23/12 12:42 AM, "Justin Mclean" wrote:
>
> It's simple to do.
> 1. Extra stuff is checked in making revision 1001
> 2. The compiler is checkin making revision 1002
>
> To make baseline build you'd need to:
> 1. Check out everything (you get full version 1002)
> 2. Check out frameworks
This makes sense. I personally prefer having something denote the end
of an action ( carriage return can be misconstrued, but sometimes I
like my code lining up sometimes).
And classes w/ thousands of lines are very confusing...refactor! :)
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:26 AM, David Arno wrote:
>>
- Original Message -
From: "Dimitri k."
She said that Adobe hasn't thought about it because they didn't believe we
were interested, but she was thinking it could be a good idea.
In fact, the Design View is a Flex app, so the community can easily
contribute to it, and legal scrubbing sho
+1 for Dmitri's follow through! Thank you!
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Dimitri k. wrote:
> - Original Message - From: "Dimitri k."
>>
>> She said that Adobe hasn't thought about it because they didn't believe we
>> were interested, but she was thinking it could be a good idea.
>>
2012/2/23 jude :
>> This would be great. I've been working on some things like this. I've
>> created skins for OSX like scrollbars [1], a throw button [2] and skins for
>> search text input (I'll have to post it).
>>
Nice work Jude.
Re' Ruby and Python doing it too:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7219541/what-is-the-difference-between-semicolons-in-javascript-and-in-python
I don't write in Ruby, but do a tiny bit of Python now and then, so, I can,
to an extend imagine what the difference is. Python would always understand
Hi,
> Will there really only be one submit with extra (non-Adobe) stuff? It can
> get pretty messy pretty fast if we have Adobe stuff, not-Adobe stuff,
> Adobe stuff, not-Adobe stuff, etc interleaved. How would you tag the
> release if it shouldn't include some/all of the new stuff?
It's not to
+1
I would like a designer which can do quick preview of my items renderer and
help me to make adjustements.
2012/2/23 JP Bader
> +1 for Dmitri's follow through! Thank you!
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Dimitri k. wrote:
> > - Original Message - From: "Dimitri k."
> >>
> >> Sh
The Android Design site appears to have a Creative Commons license. Perhaps
their license provides a foundation for us to begin?
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Martin Heidegger wrote:
> On 24/02/2012 01:38, David Francis Buhler wrote:
>
>> Android has a highly organized, hierarchical approach
Flex is dumping Linux for good...
Adobe is making one bad decision after another
We are heavily linux developers and we have been working with Flex for 3
years now...
First we started with Flex Builder and switched to IntelliJ... then Adobe
decided not to make Flash Player Debugger anymore f
I know , we are not meant to put up a wish list, but certainly having a
leaned down mechanism to message via http would be great.. In my case my
services are behind Ruby which has a bson implementation. ActionScript does
have a community package as well. I think it would be great to make it part
of
When I asked to Deepa two days ago about the Design view, I had in mind, the
fact that, although I am an experienced Flex developer, I still use it, it is
very convenient for the drafts, as in companies, it is very handy and valuable
to present quick prototypes and finally it's a tool that can
I am curious about what exactly would(may) be donated? Is it an Eclipse
plugin? I heard someone mention that it is a Flex application. Can
someone shed some light on the specifics?
That said, +1 from me for open sourcing the Design View. I would love to
contribute in that area.
Thanks,
Om
20
The point is that, it's not the Flash builder, it is the design view only, so,
they first have to check if it is possible to give only the code of this part.
Frédéric THOMAS
> From: bigosma...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:56:23 -0800
> Subject: Re: Adobe might think of open-sourcing th
+1 from me as well. The design view does help especially when it comes to
quick prototypes.
Brian
On 2/23/12 4:56 PM, "Om" wrote:
>I am curious about what exactly would(may) be donated? Is it an Eclipse
>plugin? I heard someone mention that it is a Flex application. Can
>someone shed s
I think you'll have to get the creator to release it under a different
license and/or donate that code to Apache.
https://github.com/argoncloud/ActionBSON/blob/master/LICENSE.txt
It seems he retains copyright and while that is very permissive; I'm
not sure what legal issues could come from
>
> I challenge all readers here
>
> Tell me a single feature that Flex needs more than a good designing and
> prototyping tool.
>From an informal office poll of some of our engineers here at Shutterfly,
my thoughts included:
- A real collections API (@see
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/d
Okay, I took a peep into the plugins folder of my Flash Builder 4 install
location. I see that the design view is indeed a plugin
(com.adobe.flexbuilder.designview_4.0.0.272416)
There is a swf and an AIR application descriptor xml. It appears that
Flash Builder embeds this AIR application in its
Thank's Om for this precision.
Frédéric THOMAS
> From: bigosma...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:09:53 -0800
> Subject: Re: Adobe might think of open-sourcing the Design View if there is
> sufficient interest
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
>
> Okay, I took a peep into the plugins f
On 2/24/2012 7:09 AM, Scott Delamater wrote:
You could also refer to:
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Apopularissues-panel
not exactly fair, data came before adobe OS-ed flex & announced dropping design
view from FB.
Hi,
I've created a new branch of the framework directory called "localechanges". If
there's no further objections I'll check in the changes to that branch. Once we
have the full code donation from Adobe I'll merge it back into trunk.
If anyone wants to use this branch they will need to switch t
On 2/23/12 4:09 PM, "Scott Delamater" wrote:
>>
>> I challenge all readers here
>>
>> Tell me a single feature that Flex needs more than a good designing and
>> prototyping tool.
>
> ...
> Personally I'd prioritize and contribute to any of those long before I'd
> devote time to a WYSIWYG to
On 2/23/12 5:24 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've created a new branch of the framework directory called "localechanges".
> If there's no further objections I'll check in the changes to that branch.
> Once we have the full code donation from Adobe I'll merge it back into trunk.
Sounds
Hey Everybody!
I wanted to formally introduce Justin Mclean as our newest project
committer and PPMC Member. Justin is the director of Class Software and a
world traveler -- teaching classes on Flex and Arduinos. Justin is also a
certified Adobe Instructor and Expert for both Flex and ColdFusion
>
>
> ActionBSON is not only abandoned, it has bugs and is incomplete.
I've fixed those bugs in the BSON implementation and wrote MongoAS3 from
scratch. I'm looking at wrapping it in a RemoteObject style to add some
more Flex specific functionality.
You can check it out here: http://github.com/s9
Hello List,
today I read/skimmed over the Flex SDK and found a lot of missing ";" in
the Flex SDK, as well as a few unused private methods or method
arguments and imports.
I committed the ones I found to a github fork [1]. Perhaps some changes
can go into the SDK?
However I wondered about a
On 2/23/12 9:28 PM, "Martin Heidegger" wrote:
> However I wondered about a few things related to the Flex coding style:
>
> - Spaces or tabs? I found that various files currently mix spaces and
> tabs, some have more tabs some more spaces (what was the policy again?)
Somehow, the policy bec
I believe "in" works only on dynamic classes, like plain Object. You have
to use hasOwnProperty() when the key is declared as a member of a class, or
a 'sealed class'. At least that's how it works in loops.
--
Omar Gonzalez
s9tpep...@apache.org
Apache Flex PPMC Member
Hi,
> today I read/skimmed over the Flex SDK and found a lot of missing ";"
Semicolons are optional in a lot of cases but I it would be good to see them in
there for constancy sake.
> a few unused private methods or method arguments and imports.
It most cases I agree they should be removed. In
On 24/02/2012 15:17, Alex Harui wrote:
Somehow, the policy became 4 spaces. Personally I don't care if it is
a four-space tab or four spaces, but definitely not 8 spaces although
some of that did get in there.
What do you mean "somehow"? I don't care as well - there are bad
arguments for eith
I think using the localechanges branch should be fine, no? We could use it
to stage all the things we'd like to bring in as soon as Mustella makes its
way in and we can test the framework.
--
Omar Gonzalez
s9tpep...@apache.org
Apache Flex PPMC Member
On 24/02/2012 09:06, Jeffry Houser wrote:
I think you'll have to get the creator to release it under a
different license and/or donate that code to Apache.
https://github.com/argoncloud/ActionBSON/blob/master/LICENSE.txt
It seems he retains copyright and while that is very permissive; I'm
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Martin Heidegger wrote:
> On 24/02/2012 09:06, Jeffry Houser wrote:
>
>>
>> I think you'll have to get the creator to release it under a different
>> license and/or donate that code to Apache.
>>
>> https://github.com/argoncloud/**ActionBSON/blob/master/**LICENSE
Hi,
> I think using the localechanges branch should be fine, no? We could use it
> to stage all the things we'd like to bring in as soon as Mustella makes its
> way in and we can test the framework.
Might be better it it had a different name if it contains more than the locale
changes.
Justin
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