Re: bay area folks and flash

Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "Ariel Jakobovits" To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Subject: bay area folks and flash Date: Wed, Apr 18, 2012 5:40 pm The truth is, it amazes me what exists in the ecosystem of software development on the client today

Re: bay area folks and flash

Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "Ariel Jakobovits" To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Subject: bay area folks and flash Date: Wed, Apr 18, 2012 5:40 pm The truth is, it amazes me what exists in the ecosystem of software development on the client today

Re: bay area folks and flash

Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "Jonathan Campos" To: Subject: bay area folks and flash Date: Wed, Apr 18, 2012 6:33 pm On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: > I dont think that anyone was arguing that it was. Guys, I don't think this

Re: bay area folks and flash

Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "Jonathan Campos" To: Subject: bay area folks and flash Date: Wed, Apr 18, 2012 6:33 pm On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: > I dont think that anyone was arguing that it was. Guys, I don't think this

Re: bay area folks and flash

Hi, at first, I think the way to send flash runtime evangelists to a world wide tour is a good step. But the negative point is, that you are only showing demos, we all have already seen. The informations you have provided are all facts, which we already can read in the whitepapers. But we need

Re: bay area folks and flash

While this thread doesn't really help move the cause of flex forward, I think it's helpful to have these kinds of discussions. I'm sure there is a more appropriate place to have them. Like others here, I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. The capabilities of HTML5 aren't there

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Agreed. Sorry about the off topic comments. mike chambers m...@adobe.com On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: > >> I dont think that anyone was arguing that it was. > > > Guys, I don't think this thread is helping anyone

Re: bay area folks and flash

Again, please don't mischaracterize what I said. -- > 'If you want to continue to earn a living, you MUST get your > head out of the sand and learn about HTML5.'" -- We said it is in your interest to be aware of the capabilities of HTML5 because your clients are probably going to ask about it.

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On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: > I dont think that anyone was arguing that it was. Guys, I don't think this thread is helping anyone. I'd argue that this is only adding to the issue. If you want to keep moving forward I would recommend doing so and stop arguing about what

Re: bay area folks and flash

The truth is, it amazes me what exists in the ecosystem of software development on the client today. Adobe is giving up on flash for ria, windows works on only windows, apple only on apple, html and CSS suck across browsers and in terms of features...the only area with stability is the server si

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Hi The following are some points by Adobe towards Future of Flex. They believe that HTML5 will become an important technology. But it takes years and also we are not sure whether HTML5 will accepted to fit enterprise applications. As its a future thing, companies cannot afford to lose the present

Re: bay area folks and flash

Hi, The following are some points by Adobe towards Future of Flex. They believe that HTML5 will become an important technology. But it takes years and also we are not sure whether HTML5 will accepted to fit enterprise applications. As its a future thing, companies cannot afford to lose the prese

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I remember some one say once, "*Write once, run anywhere*" (*WORA*)" witch latter became "Write once, bug anywhere" and this is the future that I see in HTML5. What is the biggest different from HTML5 to flash. Flash Player is managed by only one Company, Adobe. HTML5 is running above Chrome, IE,

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Hi Mike, >From the newsletter, "Those of you who attended our meeting on April 16 were struck by Lee Brimelow's emphatic exhortation to ActionScript and Flex programmers: 'If you want to continue to earn a living, you MUST get your head out of the sand and learn about HTML5.'" We know what it is

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I dont think that anyone was arguing that it was. mike chambers On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:11 PM, imagene...@gmail.com wrote: Javascript is not a better platform for applications or games.

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Until you try to play that game in a mobile browser. AIR FTW! > We all know, pretty soon,. a > developer will release a great Javascript game that will make a ton of > money and become super popular and than it might fuel momentum in > Javascript. Okay I'll give you that. >

Re: bay area folks and flash

Despite the impact past events and decisions have had on companies and developers using the Flash Platform (mostly Flex), I respect Adobe's pursuit of a new business model, and one I believe will be more successful than tooling and an ecosystem targeted towards the Large Enterprise with a bent on

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Objectively better from a development standpoint. * Consumers* On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:11 PM, imagene...@gmail.com wrote: > Javascript is not a better platform for applications or games. Look at > EA's Command and Conquer online game. It's performance is horrible and it's > just a turn based g

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Javascript is not a better platform for applications or games. Look at EA's Command and Conquer online game. It's performance is horrible and it's just a turn based game. A lot of WEB developers have been forced to learn javascript because it's a standard and you're pigeonholed into it. They are s

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Yep. Agreed. We had announced last year that we planned to monetize alchemy, and then announced earlier this year that as part of that we would be removing the domainMemory API. Based on community feedback we changed those plans so that domainMemory is still available (and officially supporte

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On 17 Apr 2012, at 20:37, Mike Chambers wrote: > I also said that winning back trust and credibility was a long term process, > one that basically involved us being clear and open about our plans, and then > doing those plans. Basically, we have to tell you what we plan to do, and > then do it

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I understand that there is still frustration around all of this, but mischaracterizing what we said doesn't help anyone. In regards to HTML5, we said that Flash is really good at a lot of things (animations, apps, video, casual games, branding experiences, art) and that you could continue to us

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Unity and Epic (and others) already have great tool chains for creating 3D gaming content that targets the Flash Player. I dont see why there is a need for Adobe to try to fill that niche when there are already great solutions in the market. Instead, we are introducing a model where those third

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Could you give a bit more detail about why they aren't going to compete with Unity and what that means for AIR development? Thanks, - S. On 4/17/2012 11:16 AM, Tony Constantinides wrote: I was there. Basically Adobe confirmed there moving ahead with Flash on Gaming and video (in that orde

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I was there. Basically Adobe confirmed there moving ahead with Flash on Gaming and video (in that order) Lots of new functionality coming out for gaming, with video they concentrating on the big media companies and there needs and screw the little guy. I understand the direction there going

bay area folks and flash

anyone in the bay area attend the future of flash event last night at adobe? wondering what was said.   Ariel Jakobovits Email: arielj...@yahoo.com Phone: 650-690-2213 Fax: 650-641-0031 Cell: 650-823-8699