Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

This was the historic statement made by Adobe to increase distribution. To support the variety of Linux-based platforms across PCs and devices, we > are prioritizing a Linux porting kit for AIR (including source code), which > Open > Screen Project

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>I totally buy that requirement. And I think Mike Labriola at one time got >some sort of commitment from Adobe for this particular use. I know it was >before the big 'change' but maybe he can comment on that. There was rumor of allowing some use of AIR for Linux as part of the development kit

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I totally buy that requirement. And I think Mike Labriola at one time got some sort of commitment from Adobe for this particular use. I know it was before the big 'change' but maybe he can comment on that. -Nick On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12

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Presentation interface of Flash and Flex interest precisely the prospects, it's not interesting for a wide range of developers, who write code that leverages client-server communication, data processing, physics, AI and many many more. I, for once, being an AS3 programmer at my last job had to deal

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On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: > I still don't know if I'm following what you really want.. I totally see > the want/need for AIR for Linux. A compiler for Linux I see as even a > higher priority. But from what I'm putting together, you want a > console-based fla

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I still don't know if I'm following what you really want.. I totally see the want/need for AIR for Linux. A compiler for Linux I see as even a higher priority. But from what I'm putting together, you want a console-based flash player? I can't picture how that fits in with Flex. Flash (and Fle

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Jeffry, As with many things Macromedia did at the time... I don't know, but they were some times... well, funny :) That SEO kit was available for downloading publicly for about a month or so, you only needed an account of a registered user (which I had, b/c I purchased Flash MX 2004 some time befo

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> Redtamarin Yes, that's the project I was thinking about, but you can't use flash.* classes with it - so, it's nice, but not very useful, if your purpose was to test flash.* classes :) AIR needs X and, I'm not sure why, but it needs a lot of stuff that is unlikely to run w/o X. Besides, obviously

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On 2/25/12 9:26 AM, "olegsivo...@gmail.com" wrote: >> Are you really proposing a headless, or console-mode Flash Player for > linux users? > > 1) It possibly exists (well, I'm 99% sure because Macromedia once released > SEO SDK for processing SWFs, so, I'm guessing that's the starting point,

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On 26/02/2012 02:26, Left Right wrote: Are you really proposing a headless, or console-mode Flash Player for linux users? 1) It possibly exists (well, I'm 99% sure because Macromedia once released SEO SDK for processing SWFs, so, I'm guessing that's the starting point, besides, I could infer th

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On 2/25/2012 12:26 PM, Left Right wrote: > Are you really proposing a headless, or console-mode Flash Player for linux users? 1) It possibly exists (well, I'm 99% sure because Macromedia once released SEO SDK for processing SWFs, so, I'm guessing that's the starting point, besides, I could in

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> Are you really proposing a headless, or console-mode Flash Player for linux users? 1) It possibly exists (well, I'm 99% sure because Macromedia once released SEO SDK for processing SWFs, so, I'm guessing that's the starting point, besides, I could infer this indirectly through some testing resul

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On 2/25/2012 10:41 AM, Left Right wrote: Just because I'm being a prick, OSS != free. More yet, OSS does not imply free and free does not imply OSS. Technically you're right. In the real world, most people--even programmers equate Open Source with "Free and I can do whatever I want with it."

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In my case of Linux development -- these were for my own OSS project, not my employers. I've always had a command-line interface for my apps (these are the ones I develop first), but because of the complexity of the configurations, it was suggested I made an X-based GUI configuration tool. That w

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Nick, it sounds like you've been doing corporative development for far too long... it is painful, indeed, to hear the horrible stories of Apple corporation in a battle of interests against Microsoft corporation and Adobe getting in between the fires... but again, what you say about Linux is said fr

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And to add little bit to the story -- Apple has also forced it's partners (not just Adobe) to go through 3 MAJOR framework/architecture changes since they released OSX only over 10 years ago. First there was Aqua, then Carbon, then Cocoa. And it's not like Microsoft which doesn't really force you

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On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM, jude wrote: > Apple made > many requests (complaints) for them to upgrade and provide a good > experience for their users which they ignored. Now, years later is it the > reason Apple's decisions on Flash? > Jude, while I don't agree with the decisions that Adob

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This is an interesting if familiar development. For many years Adobe ignored development of the Flash Player on the Mac because it was not as big a market for them as Windows. They also were slow to upgrade their other Adobe suite software for the same reason. Apple made many requests (complaints

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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Jason Gardner wrote: > I echo your sentiments, Left Right! > > Being able to develop Flex applications on Linux is extremely important to > me, and I'm happy to assist to that end in any way that I can. +1 (Well, not on Left Right's pointless put-down of non-Linu

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I echo your sentiments, Left Right! Being able to develop Flex applications on Linux is extremely important to me, and I'm happy to assist to that end in any way that I can.

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As an avid Ubuntu user (obviously, desktop Linux), few clarifications on how Adobe runtimes worked, until recently, at least: - player plugin - There was a flash-player-nonfree in the Debian (and Ubuntu) PPAs, that one would normally install if using Firefox, Opera, Seamonkey or any similar browse

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I'm quite curious on audio part, "Improved audio support for working with low-latency audio" what support will it be available? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Martin Heidegger wrote: > On 22/02/2012 18:27, Martin Heidegger wrote: > >> On 22/02/2012 18:20, David Arno wrote: >> >>> From: Dimitri

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On 22/02/2012 18:27, Martin Heidegger wrote: On 22/02/2012 18:20, David Arno wrote: From: Dimitri k. [mailto:k...@noos.fr] Sent: 22 February 2012 09:08 No he was referring that future Flash Player linux version will be only available in Google Chrome. I can't decide if that is right or not. As

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>From my current experience, my designers are a lot happier knowing we use flex than HTML5 (currently at least). Mobile/Tablet is a whole different ball game altogether. Thanks Avinash Y On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:23 PM, jude wrote: > *Flex is also very good for developing non-enterprise applic

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*Flex is also very good for developing non-enterprise applications* Yes! It is. I think Flex solves many of the most complicated environments. Many types of applications can benefit from it. *Yet*, *hardly anyone is aware of it..*. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Haykel BEN JEMIA wrote: > Fl

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> > Perhaps ours is an odd business, but I'd estimate 80% of our users are on > Linux, the other 20% are on Windows. We provide no support for using our > products on Macs at all as there is no demand. Now you're making me curious :) What kind of business are you in? cheers, Roland

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> From: Roland Zwaga [mailto:rol...@stackandheap.com] > Sent: 22 February 2012 10:23 > > I have worked on exactly these types of applications as well. > Both in education and digital publishing I have exclusively encountered > Windows boxes and to a degree Apple. Never any Linux on the desktop a

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> > Flex is also very good for developing non-enterprise applications. In the > last couple of years I have developed a couple of applications in the > educational and digital publishing fields, all aimed at non-entreprise > usage. Flex was perfect for that. I have worked on exactly these types o

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Flex is also very good for developing non-enterprise applications. In the last couple of years I have developed a couple of applications in the educational and digital publishing fields, all aimed at non-entreprise usage. Flex was perfect for that. Haykel On 22 February 2012 10:27, Roland Zwag

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t: 22 February 2012 09:27 > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap > >> >> I can't decide if that is right or not. As the > Pepper API is described >> as "cross-platform API for plugins for web > browsers," that im

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27 To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap > > I can't decide if that is right or not. As the Pepper API is described > as "cross-platform API for plugins for web browsers," that implies > that other browsers could implement it too. I

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

On 22/02/2012 18:20, David Arno wrote: From: Dimitri k. [mailto:k...@noos.fr] Sent: 22 February 2012 09:08 No he was referring that future Flash Player linux version will be only available in Google Chrome. I can't decide if that is right or not. As the Pepper API is described as "cross-platfor

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> > I can't decide if that is right or not. As the Pepper API is described as > "cross-platform API for plugins for web browsers," that implies that other > browsers could implement it too. If it is cross-platform though, why is > Adobe ditching direct support for Flash for Linux only? > > Sadly, i

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If my understanding is right.. The same flash player works on both Firefox and Chrome. If this is the same in Linux.. The same Flash Player that can be installed into chrome ( on linux! ) can also be installed into Firefox? Do you use any other browsers on Linux? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:20 AM, D

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> From: Dimitri k. [mailto:k...@noos.fr] > Sent: 22 February 2012 09:08 > > No he was referring that future Flash Player linux version will be only available in Google Chrome. I can't decide if that is right or not. As the Pepper API is described as "cross-platform API for plugins for web browsers

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Correct Dimitri. Now users must use Chrome to view Flash content? OK you say the other browsers can have support added through Pepper, but who knows if it will ever happen and if it will be up to date. The plugin will not be available from Adobe anymore, yet another source of confusion. It has to b

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From: "Martin Heidegger" We are not dropping Flash Player support for Linux. Indeed, we are partnering with Google to provide a more robust implementation and distribution method: http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html mike chamber

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On 22/02/2012 18:02, Mike Chambers wrote: We are not dropping Flash Player support for Linux. Indeed, we are partnering with Google to provide a more robust implementation and distribution method: http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.h

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We are not dropping Flash Player support for Linux. Indeed, we are partnering with Google to provide a more robust implementation and distribution method: http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html mike chambers m...@adobe.com

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But why are they dropping support for Linux? Is it just a market share thing? On 22/02/2012 4:57 PM, Haykel BEN JEMIA wrote: Adobe is dropping more and more its support for the Flash runtime on Linux!! I think it is really time to switch from this technology and never look back. What a shame!

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Adobe is dropping more and more its support for the Flash runtime on Linux!! I think it is really time to switch from this technology and never look back. What a shame! Haykel On 22 February 2012 09:17, Martin Heidegger wrote: > Today Adobe released the Flash Platform roadmap. [1] I find the

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"Flash is the game console for the web", them fighting words. Sounds exciting. But it looks like they are turning Flash Builder (I miss Flex Builder) into a Game Development software tool, interesting. I thought that's what Flash Professional is for. What is it with Adobe and developing "dedi

[OT] Flash Platform roadmap

Today Adobe released the Flash Platform roadmap. [1] I find the ActionScript Next section quite interesting. yours Martin. [1] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html