CONFIG::performanceInstrumentation / PerfUtil?

2012-06-21 Thread Dirk Eismann
During my experiments with the current i18n implementation in the SDK I noticed that the current Apache Flex source does not include the mx.utils.PerfUtil class (referenced from within a conditional compilation block in mx.resources,ResourceManager) while the Adobe Flex SDK 4.6 does include this. S

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Dirk Eismann
> Dirk, why would this cause inconsistent behavior? ok, maybe I chose the wrong wording here. Not inconsistent, just different :-) Anyways, having compiler warning for missing keys sounds good. Dirk.

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Dirk Eismann
Hi Alex, > IMO, something like an "R" class should not be put into the compiler or the > IDE.  The compiler should be as framework agnostic as possible.  It is > probably possible to create a set of classes that do what R does. maybe I misuderstand you here, but to get compile time code hinting i

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Dirk Eismann
Hi Om, > My proposal, is to at least show compiler warnings if other locales dont > have matching strings for each entry in the 'master' bundle. having compiler warnings for missing keys sounds good - but this is maybe a bit inconsisten with the runtime behaviour: IIRC, if you compiled the SWF w

Re: Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Dirk Eismann
> I think this is a fantastic idea.  I would love to help out.  Every time I > work with resource bundles, I keep having similar thoughts.  I never took a > chance to write it out so clearly like you have done. good to know. Actually, for years (literally) I wanted to improve this stuff and had su

Asset / i18n resource management improvements

2012-06-12 Thread Dirk Eismann
I'm currently experimenting on how to improve resource management in future Apache Flex versions. It all started when I wanted to mimic the Android IDE (ADT) behavior where ADT automatically creates a class R with static accessors for project resources. E.g. a default Android project has a /src an

Re: Preliminary release candidate of Apache Flex 4.8.0 (for developers only)

2012-06-07 Thread Dirk Eismann
> Probably checkintests. > > I'm not sure the source kit has enough code in it to make a release.  It > has enough code in it to make main.  Regardless of whether or not you > should be able to make a release you should be able to run checkintests. no, unfortunately not. Building main works fine,

Re: Preliminary release candidate of Apache Flex 4.8.0 (for developers only)

2012-06-07 Thread Dirk Eismann
Hi Alex, > What was the target and the error? I'll check later - the target was "release" but the error happened in one of the dependencies, something like "Basedir /mustella does not exist" Dirk.

Re: Preliminary release candidate of Apache Flex 4.8.0 (for developers only)

2012-06-07 Thread Dirk Eismann
> Please provide me with any feedback/bugs/issues you have. I tried to build the release SDK from the source download (apache-flex-sdk-4.8.0-incubating-src.zip) which failed because the /mustella directory is not included. Dirk.

Re: Build from source: add JAVA_HOME/bin to Path

2012-06-07 Thread Dirk Eismann
> Another option would be to always use absolute paths in the build > scripts, e.g. instead of > >   > > use > >   third option would be to use Ant's task instead of using of course (and that does not require to have Java's /bin on the PATH at all IIRC) Dirk.

Build from source: add JAVA_HOME/bin to Path

2012-06-07 Thread Dirk Eismann
I just gave compiling from source a try and it went through to the point where the Batik jar gets compiled and packaged - there Ant exited with an error. The reason was that the "jar" program was not known to the system which was due to the fact that JAVA_HOME/bin was not on the search path. This w

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-61) AIR version of makeApacheFlexForFlashBuilder for Windows

2012-06-07 Thread Dirk Eismann (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-61?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13290889#comment-13290889 ] Dirk Eismann commented on FLEX-61: -- There is an unused import in line 4

Re: Apache SDK to Flash Builder - next steps

2012-06-07 Thread Dirk Eismann
Hi Om, just gave 1) a whirl and tried to compile the source in Flash Builder but it fails because the org.apache.flex.packageflexsdk.model.ActivityStepVO cannot be found. Looking at the source, the org.apache.flex.packageflexsdk.model package is missing completely: https://github.com/bigosmallm/M

Re: [jira] [Commented] (FLEX-48) Building the SDK with Java 7

2012-06-05 Thread Dirk Eismann
true. Also, setting tsa none will not use a timestamp at all which will cause issues once the cerificate used for signing is expired and you want to update the AIR application. I mixed that up with a similar error message I had during signing so it actually really is a JVM / runtime issue as the b

Re: [jira] [Commented] (FLEX-48) Building the SDK with Java 7

2012-06-05 Thread Dirk Eismann
Hey, FYI, this is not necessarily a JDK / runtime problem. It could also just mean that the remote timestamp server is not accessible. IIRC there was a thread somewhere sometime ago on another mailing list about this topic and how to solve it. I will look it up. End of the story is that the same

[OT] Shumway SWF Renderer

2012-02-01 Thread Dirk Eismann
FYI, just found this on twitter (via @cwahlers) "Shumway is an HTML5 technology experiment that explores building a faithful and efficient renderer for the SWF file format without native code assistance" https://github.com/mozilla/shumway They already do SWF parsing: http://mozilla.github.com/shu

Stubbing playerglobal.swc API

2012-01-30 Thread Dirk Eismann
Just wondered if we could circumvent the issues with hosting and downloading playerglobal.swc by just stubbing the needed classes by using native function declarations. This way we could link against the stubbed as files and would not need to link against the swcs. E.g. for the playerglobal flash.

Re: [Automation] Could we loose automation for legal or business reasons?

2012-01-24 Thread Dirk Eismann
thanks Alex - good to know this. 2012/1/24 Alex Harui : > I had a meeting with a pretty high-level Adobe person yesterday and there is > still desire to work out the kinks on all of these issues.  It is simply a > matter of time.  Please be patient.

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Dirk Eismann
+1 #42

Re: Trace & Log

2012-01-20 Thread Dirk Eismann
2012/1/20 Roland Zwaga : > Also, quite probably, this will only work in a debug build. But that's also > something you will test for I guess. I'm afraid that will be the case as well. Interestingly, there's also a flag to set Trace to log to a file instead of rounting to a listerner. > Anyhow, I

Re: Trace & Log

2012-01-20 Thread Dirk Eismann
ntime / debug build feature only. Dirk. 2012/1/20 Dirk Eismann : > I like the idea. I often wished we had logging capabilities for > release version SWFs running in release players that are similar to > what e.g.. log4j offers for Java applications (the reason it works in > Java is that

Re: Trace & Log

2012-01-20 Thread Dirk Eismann
I like the idea. I often wished we had logging capabilities for release version SWFs running in release players that are similar to what e.g.. log4j offers for Java applications (the reason it works in Java is that javac by default always compiles debug information for source files and line numbers

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Dirk Eismann
AFAIK Adobe stated that they will continue to provide support for Flex 4.6 for existing customers (i.e. key accounts with enterprise support) so I expect that they add fixes / additions to Adobe Flex. Do we need to backport them to Apache Flex? Don't know. Also, there's this CS SDK which I personal

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

2012-01-14 Thread Dirk Eismann
2012/1/14 Bertrand Delacretaz : > But nothing prevents ApacheFlex from including, alongside its core > product, various sample applications that demonstrate various > approaches. of course not, and I really like the idea of having a contrib or samples area. Dirk.

Re: Flex and Maven

2012-01-13 Thread Dirk Eismann
true, no binaries in the SVN - but the ASF itself hosts a Maven repo: https://repository.apache.org so the SWCs will be published there as artifacts. Dirk. 2012/1/13 Scott Delamater : > One consideration, though, is that Apache doesn't allow binaries in the > source code. (Or maybe I've misunders

Re: Goal for Flex: Strengthening large-scale Flex applications

2012-01-13 Thread Dirk Eismann
agree. I also think this should be handled differently and not by Apache Flex. IMHO there is no "right" (nor "wrong") way in how to architect a Flex application at all. And as you can see it's actually depending very much on your very POV and preferences. Getting consensus on this hot (religious?)

Re: [VOTE] blog post

2012-01-12 Thread Dirk Eismann
I like it. Maybe add a little more context regarding the whiteboard (not everyone knows what this is and lots of us also just learned about it the other day) and the state of the source code contribution, e.g. "Our contributors from Adobe are working with their legal department to get the Flex SDK

Re: [LOGO] Samuel Janzen

2012-01-11 Thread Dirk Eismann
nice, Samuel. I still like the initial version best (#4 is also nice btw, fresh color) It's not that similar to the VMWare Player logo anymore if you look at the "pure" logo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:VMware_Player_logo.png The VMWare logo consists of 3 arrows and an arc / corner plus it

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

2012-01-11 Thread Dirk Eismann
2012/1/11 David Arno : > The compiler turns the language into bytecode. If we have control of a > AVM-targeting compiler, then we are free to define the specification of the > language that it compiles. exactly my point, same as Scala does for the JVM (see my previous post) I think I saw some JIR

Re: Where should people ask basic development questions?

2012-01-11 Thread Dirk Eismann
> Apart from that people just go to whatever community resources they want. agreed. There are lots of non-official forums and lists already, especially if you look at country / region specific ones where people not necessarily want to discuss stuff in English all the time. And in the end it boils

Re: ActionScript and Apache Flex

2012-01-10 Thread Dirk Eismann
The most interesting thing that happened to Java (or more specifically to the JVM) in the last few yeras is how the community came up with solutions on how to improve the platform from the "outside" by not waiting for Sun or Oracle to deliver something. Examples are Groovy and more recently Scala.

Re: Did Flex lost contact to its investors?

2012-01-10 Thread Dirk Eismann
really depends on the client I think. We got some inquiries recently, the biggest was some 100+ days of pure Flex work - and they *did* know the full story, but they also know there's no alternative for them. Other clients did not knew the story, we told them because we think it's fair to tell it

Re: whiteboard

2012-01-09 Thread Dirk Eismann
README files are also handy when it comes to describing how to set up the project, build it, list required dependencies etc. Dirk.

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-09 Thread Dirk Eismann
> > They are clearly different. > > yes, you're right... strangely, I only had the FX logo in my mind's eye and not the FB icon. But that's probably due to the fact that I use Eclipse with FB linked to it and not standalone. Dirk.

Re: FLEX Logo Sketch

2012-01-09 Thread Dirk Eismann
w00t - great work Carlos! I really like the horizon / new frontier metaphor. Almost looks like the logo of a Sci-Fi blockbuster movie (tagline: "Flex - New Horizons") Concerning a squared / minified icon: not sure if we need one. There are lots of OS projects that do not have a small logo represen

Re: Setting up the Apache CMS (was: the Flex website)

2012-01-05 Thread Dirk Eismann
Dave, that's great! some quick fixes: the SVN urls point to the ooo project and not the flex svn (on the FAQ and the Source Code pages) Dirk. 2012/1/5 Dave Fisher > Hi Everyone, > > The site is now live and there are clues to how to edit the site if you > are a committer. > > I am in the proc

Re: Flex modularity through composition and interfaces

2012-01-04 Thread Dirk Eismann
true, we may not need a new framework to do DI in Flex, there are plenty of DI frameworks. But what we DO need in the core Flex classes is the ability to inject dependencies directly into the classes instead of having the classes create their dependencies themselves (in worst case statically or in

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Dirk Eismann
t I > can certainly be convinced otherwise. > > > On 1/4/12 12:43 PM, "Dirk Eismann" wrote: > > > Alex, > > > > do you mean "commit-and-review" like in "commit to SVN"? > > > > Or is it meant that people contribute the code

Re: Committer duties and information

2012-01-04 Thread Dirk Eismann
Alex, do you mean "commit-and-review" like in "commit to SVN"? Or is it meant that people contribute the code (through JIRA), tell people on the list about it so the code can get reviewed, voted in/out and eventually comitted to the SVN by some committers? Dirk. 2012/1/4 Alex Harui > So for p