Re: FGX Utilities use extended ASCII in source code

2012-08-30 Thread Left Right
OK then, I'll just put double quotes. Best. Oleg

Re: FGX Utilities use extended ASCII in source code

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/30/12 11:26 PM, "olegsivo...@gmail.com" wrote: > In other places where equals sign is used the left hand side doesn't > have any decorations around it. But in other places single quotes > (apostrophes) are used. Like this: > > * > * 0 = normal > * 1 = normal > * 2 = layer > *

Re: FGX Utilities use extended ASCII in source code

2012-08-30 Thread Left Right
In other places where equals sign is used the left hand side doesn't have any decorations around it. But in other places single quotes (apostrophes) are used. Like this: * * 0 = normal * 1 = normal * 2 = layer * 3 = multiply * 4 = screen * 5 = lighten * 6 = darken * 7 = d

Re: FGX Utilities use extended ASCII in source code

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/30/12 11:17 PM, "olegsivo...@gmail.com" wrote: >> You are welcome to file a bug and a patch. > > But what should I put instead? > > Best. > > Oleg Not sure, maybe double or single quote? Is there any other equal sign used in other comments in the code? -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Ado

Re: FGX Utilities use extended ASCII in source code

2012-08-30 Thread Left Right
> You are welcome to file a bug and a patch. But what should I put instead? Best. Oleg

Re: FGX Utilities use extended ASCII in source code

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/30/12 11:13 PM, "olegsivo...@gmail.com" wrote: > If you are interested to know, the value of the "bad" characters is > 224 (That's not a quotation mark character, certainly, or, at least > not in any one Latin, or Cyrillic, or Semitic language), not sure what > the writer wanted to write

Re: FGX Utilities use extended ASCII in source code

2012-08-30 Thread Left Right
If you are interested to know, the value of the "bad" characters is 224 (That's not a quotation mark character, certainly, or, at least not in any one Latin, or Cyrillic, or Semitic language), not sure what the writer wanted to write there. Most commonly it is the Greek minuscule alpha character.

FGX Utilities use extended ASCII in source code

2012-08-30 Thread Left Right
Hello, I'm trying to write an alternative build using SCons and by accident I discovered that fxgutils/src/java/com/adobe/internal/fxg/dom/types/BlendMode.java uses characters that cannot be mapped to Unicode somewhere in the comments: * The following was introduced in FXG 2.0 which acts like blen

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/30/12 7:49 PM, "jude" wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> On 8/30/12 1:36 PM, "jude" wrote: >>> Remember when iOS 5 came out a year or so ago? The HTML5 performance in >>> that browser was 2FPS. After that update it was 35-40FPS. A 2000% >> increase. >>> [1

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/30/12 8:04 PM, "Jonathan Hart" wrote: > I think I'm beginning to recognize a larger confusion in this > discussion which should be brought to the table. Many people consider > AS3 to be a scripting subset of Flex, which is simply not the case. > > With AS3 comes the display list framewor

Re: Getting Mustella to work.

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/30/12 6:30 PM, "Kiel" wrote: > Greetings, > > Thanks. That clears out a few things on Mustella. > > The `Failed Timed out` on Mustella doesn't show up on the "results.txt". > 1) Does this mean that there are _other_ "Failed" tests that doesn't > show up on the "results.txt" I've never l

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Jonathan Hart
I think I'm beginning to recognize a larger confusion in this discussion which should be brought to the table. Many people consider AS3 to be a scripting subset of Flex, which is simply not the case. With AS3 comes the display list framework upon which Flash and Flex are built.. there's that probl

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Omar Gonzalez
Oh it ran for me but perhaps your definition of fine is different than mine :P For me I got a lot of items popping around the screen on boot, scroll bars stuck to the mouse, and overall slow rendering. I didn't see any mention anywhere about AS3 code running in the browser NOT in Flash Player. -o

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread jude
FYI It ran fine for me. I did mention it supported AS3 > HTML on the site (so no Flash Player requirement). So it's says it's doing what we want it to IIUC but I couldn't find any links to live examples. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Omar

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread jude
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > On 8/30/12 1:36 PM, "jude" wrote: > > Remember when iOS 5 came out a year or so ago? The HTML5 performance in > > that browser was 2FPS. After that update it was 35-40FPS. A 2000% > increase. > > [1] > Yes, things get faster, but I would say t

Re: Getting Mustella to work.

2012-08-30 Thread Kiel
Greetings, Thanks. That clears out a few things on Mustella. The `Failed Timed out` on Mustella doesn't show up on the "results.txt". 1) Does this mean that there are _other_ "Failed" tests that doesn't show up on the "results.txt" So it would be a good practice to log it entirely. ./mini

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Mr. Rich wrote: > >> This is a long discussion for something already available. >> >> http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/ >> >> - flash (including older swf files) to html >> - php to flash >> - photoshop to fl

Re: Excluding Tests in Mustella

2012-08-30 Thread Carol Frampton
On 8/30/12 2 :59PM, "Peter Ent" wrote: >Hi, > >After talking Alex and Carol, we've come up with a convention for >excluding tests that need time for repairs or that are questionable. I've >documented this on the Mustella wiki [1]. Basically, the >ExcludeList[Mac|Win].txt file should be used onl

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Mr. Rich wrote: > This is a long discussion for something already available. > > http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/ > > - flash (including older swf files) to html > - php to flash > - photoshop to flash > - renders in browser > - lots of demos and docs > - no install,

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Mr. Rich
This is a long discussion for something already available. http://reshapemedia.com/ftml/ - flash (including older swf files) to html - php to flash - photoshop to flash - renders in browser - lots of demos and docs - no install, only 5 min setup - lots more That's only the online version. There

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/30/12 1:36 PM, "jude" wrote: > To *guarantee* we get the same results across browsers we need to use > something like the drawing canvas or SVG (or drawing commands) such as > Flash uses itself REGARDLESS of performance. If we depend on browser > manufacturers for different feature sets o

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Jeffry Houser
My personal preference would be not to use the Apache Flex Dev list to discuss the pros and cons of Adobe open sourcing the Flash Player. Very few readers of this list would have any say in such a thing; and debating the pros and cons seems like non-productive use of our time. On 8/30/2012

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread jude
One thing that keeps coming back to me on this conversation is the argument of performance, time to market and bandwidth vs correct architecture. Why are we targeting HTML? Apple decides not to support Flash in iOS so now Adobe rearranges resources to develop HTML development tools so now we are t

[jira] [Created] (FLEX-33184) bin/fontswf throws java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: flash/swf/tags/DefineTag exception

2012-08-30 Thread Carol Frampton (JIRA)
Carol Frampton created FLEX-33184: - Summary: bin/fontswf throws java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: flash/swf/tags/DefineTag exception Key: FLEX-33184 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33184

Re: FlexUnit Location

2012-08-30 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Michael A. Labriola < labri...@digitalprimates.net> wrote: > >That would probably save one migration, otherwise you'll have to migrate > to SVN and then to Git again, sounds like a pain... > > I am mostly concerned about losing the history and the GIT to SVN > mig

Re: FlexUnit Location

2012-08-30 Thread Roland Zwaga
>>That would probably save one migration, otherwise you'll have to migrate to >>SVN and then to Git again, sounds like a pain... > > I am mostly concerned about losing the history and the GIT to SVN migration > seems to only keep some limited history. All the more reason not to do the Git->SVN m

RE: FlexUnit Location

2012-08-30 Thread Michael A. Labriola
>That would probably save one migration, otherwise you'll have to migrate to >SVN and then to Git again, sounds like a pain... I am mostly concerned about losing the history and the GIT to SVN migration seems to only keep some limited history.

Re: FlexUnit Location

2012-08-30 Thread Roland Zwaga
>> In order to release it from apache it has to live on apache server. If >> critical history gets lost going to svn then might wait for apache git. > > Here is my current plan. I am looking for comments. > > Current plan is that I leave the code (and hence the history) in GitHub for > now, but

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33177) Getting Mustella mx folder to Work

2012-08-30 Thread Jose Barragan (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33177?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13445202#comment-13445202 ] Jose Barragan commented on FLEX-33177: -- Great!! Thanks God! ):P Thanks a lot Alex.

Excluding Tests in Mustella

2012-08-30 Thread Peter Ent
Hi, After talking Alex and Carol, we've come up with a convention for excluding tests that need time for repairs or that are questionable. I've documented this on the Mustella wiki [1]. Basically, the ExcludeList[Mac|Win].txt file should be used only for tests that do not run on one operating s

[jira] [Resolved] (FLEX-33177) Getting Mustella mx folder to Work

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Harui (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33177?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Alex Harui resolved FLEX-33177. --- Resolution: Fixed Should be passing on Mac OSX. 1755 tests pass > Getting Mustella

[jira] [Assigned] (FLEX-33177) Getting Mustella mx folder to Work

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Harui (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33177?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Alex Harui reassigned FLEX-33177: - Assignee: Alex Harui > Getting Mustella mx folder to Work > -

RE: FlexUnit Location

2012-08-30 Thread Michael A. Labriola
> In order to release it from apache it has to live on apache server. If > critical history gets lost going to svn then might wait for apache git. Here is my current plan. I am looking for comments. Current plan is that I leave the code (and hence the history) in GitHub for now, but finish the

RE: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Michael A. Labriola
>I haven't seen FalconJS but from what I read, it looks like it plays with the >DOM. FalconJOS (at least the Flex demo) basically tried to make a big SVG which was rendered by the browser for interaction. Less than ideal on a few thousand levels

Re: Pixel Bender and broken build (on OSX)

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/30/12 8:45 AM, "olegsivo...@gmail.com" wrote: > Thanks for responses, Alex, > > OK, let's say we (which is probably me...) will find a way to reduce > the Linux SDK to the compiler and the necessary utilities, and then, > perhaps try to port some / what will appear to be more feasible so

Re: Pixel Bender and broken build (on OSX)

2012-08-30 Thread Left Right
Thanks for responses, Alex, OK, let's say we (which is probably me...) will find a way to reduce the Linux SDK to the compiler and the necessary utilities, and then, perhaps try to port some / what will appear to be more feasible so it works on Linux. There are other things like the player version

Re: Pixel Bender and broken build (on OSX)

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/30/12 4:54 AM, "olegsivo...@gmail.com" wrote: > Hello, > This is perhaps an old thread, but this is the only one that mentions > pbutil. So, I'll ask here. > > I'm trying to build the SDK on Linux, and it wants me to have this > file in the PIXELBENDER_HOME - I don't have it, and can't f

Re: Pixel Bender and broken build (on OSX)

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Harui
On 8/30/12 6:09 AM, "olegsivo...@gmail.com" wrote: > Ah... sorry for the noise, I just realized that Linux is never > mentioned as a supported platform, so, my understanding it, it is not > possible by design? :/ > Well, sorry if that's the case. Yeah, Apache rules say that we have to have sou

Re: Getting Mustella to work.

2012-08-30 Thread Alex Harui
The tests that hit localhost may need their own list, maybe browserIncludes.txt or something like that. When folks run mustella in browser mode, they need to set up an http server pointing at the tests directory and these additional tests should run. The ones that will be harder to fix are ones t

Re: Getting Mustella to work.

2012-08-30 Thread Erik de Bruin
Peter, > Tests that rely on a local server are currently not supported. However, if > interested individuals want to figure out how to do that, it would make > testing more robust. I think however, the best thing to do is skip this Would a local server based on something like [1] be an option? Or

Re: Mustella?

2012-08-30 Thread Peter Ent
Here's the link to the Mustella Wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Mustella+Overview It is also linked from the Apache Flex page. --peter On 8/30/12 10:33 AM, "Mark Shen" wrote: >Hi. > >Mustella is a test tool for Flex. > >Recently many emails is about it. but no basic inf

Re: Mustella?

2012-08-30 Thread Cyrill Zadra
Hi Mark You'll find more information about mustella on the apache flex wiki page -> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Mustella+Overview cyrill On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Mark Shen wrote: > Hi. > > Mustella is a test tool for Flex. > > Recently many emails is about it. bu

Re: Getting Mustella to work.

2012-08-30 Thread Peter Ent
I've added this Q&A session to the Mustella wiki. Peter Ent Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems On 8/29/12 11:56 PM, "Alex Harui" wrote: > > > >On 8/29/12 7:14 PM, "Kiel" wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> 1. What will I see on the error log If the fail is timeouts >> ... will it be like "property_scriptTi

Re: Getting Mustella to work.

2012-08-30 Thread Peter Ent
Tests that rely on a local server are currently not supported. However, if interested individuals want to figure out how to do that, it would make testing more robust. I think however, the best thing to do is skip this test and then we can revisit the issue once all the "normal" tests are working.

Re: Getting Mustella to work.

2012-08-30 Thread Cyrill Zadra
There's a test in test/Mangers/StyleManager/Versioning that tries to load a swf from a local server. Do I have to setup server .. or how is this been tested in mustella? http://localhost:{portNumber}/Managers/StyleManager/SWFs/assets/MP_customStyles_embeddedImages.swf?port={portNumber}"; waitTarg

Re: Pixel Bender and broken build (on OSX)

2012-08-30 Thread Left Right
Ah... sorry for the noise, I just realized that Linux is never mentioned as a supported platform, so, my understanding it, it is not possible by design? :/ Well, sorry if that's the case. Best. Oleg

Re: [jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33177) Getting Mustella mx folder to Work

2012-08-30 Thread Peter Ent
Thanks, Carlos. --peter On 8/29/12 5:24 PM, "Carlos Rovira" wrote: >Peter, > >you don't need git actually. We are waiting for this 2-4 weeks to get >real Git on Apache Flex. >Meanwhile Jose and I are using SVN and copy-paste the modifications in >our respective fork in github >since the layout

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Yvon Sauvageau
I see enough crazy stuff done on Canvas here: http://net.tutsplus.com/articles/web-roundups/21-ridiculously-impressive-html 5-canvas-experiments/ to conjecture that it's performant enough to render any Flex layout; which would normally be computed outside of the object representing the Canva

Re: Pixel Bender and broken build (on OSX)

2012-08-30 Thread Left Right
Hello, This is perhaps an old thread, but this is the only one that mentions pbutil. So, I'll ask here. I'm trying to build the SDK on Linux, and it wants me to have this file in the PIXELBENDER_HOME - I don't have it, and can't find where to download it from. But secondly, seriously... why Pixel

Re: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Roland Zwaga
> I was talking about this canvas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canvas_element > > I haven't seen FalconJS but from what I read, it looks like it plays with > the DOM. That's what GWT does. It's good for Google because they had nothing > to start with. For Flex, I say "forget about the DOM". Draw e

RE: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Yvon Sauvageau
I was talking about this canvas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canvas_element I haven't seen FalconJS but from what I read, it looks like it plays with the DOM. That's what GWT does. It's good for Google because they had nothing to start with. For Flex, I say "forget about the DOM". Draw every

RE: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread Michael Schmalle
When I wrote this I was thinking the OP was talking about a Canvas IE widget container, not a graphics container. Alex had mentioned it would be a lot more work with accessibility etc, I agree. I was just speaking about containing it, no ties to the outside world in the beginning. Mike Q

RE: Cross-compiling Flex to HTML5/Javascript (Was : Update on Falcon donation)

2012-08-30 Thread teotigra
This is definitely how something would start, you would in essence create a "player" where you could eliminate as many variables as possible from the HTML/browser world. Like I said, using ActionScript/Flex interface to output sometype of native is what I'm really interested. Just thinkin

[jira] [Comment Edited] (FLEX-33177) Getting Mustella mx folder to Work

2012-08-30 Thread Jose Barragan (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33177?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13444813#comment-13444813 ] Jose Barragan edited comment on FLEX-33177 at 8/30/12 8:16 PM: -

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33177) Getting Mustella mx folder to Work

2012-08-30 Thread Jose Barragan (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33177?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13444813#comment-13444813 ] Jose Barragan commented on FLEX-33177: -- This last issue is generated because the orig