Re: [jira] [Created] (FLEX-14) Flex SDK 4.6 dosn't work on FlashPlayer 10.3 and requires FlashPlayer 11.1

2012-02-12 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
In many cases the requirement for a newer FP version by the SDK is related to only a very small number of features. I don't know if it is feasible, but it would be nice to be able to choose the targeted FP version based on what features are used in the application. Haykel On 13 February 2012 0

Re: [RT]Flex Camps

2012-02-12 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Keith Sutton wrote: > James, > > Digging through groups.adobe.com I found this guideline: > http://groups.adobe.com/group/**466 > > What I am trying to develop is what life will be like without Adobe $ or > presenters around in

Re: Apache Flex suggestion - dumping SWF support in favor of HTML5 - don't listen to Steve!

2012-02-12 Thread Conrad Winchester
You want a decent IDE for flex on linux? How about one that's a million times better than Flash Builder, and cheaper :-) Intellij Idea Haven't used Flash Builder for about two years now. Conrad WInchester On 11 Feb 2012, at 15:52, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: > To say there is no technical re

Re: [RT]Flex Camps

2012-02-12 Thread Keith Sutton
James, Digging through groups.adobe.com I found this guideline: http://groups.adobe.com/group/466 What I am trying to develop is what life will be like without Adobe $ or presenters around in the not too distant future (months not years). I know from people inside that the community team bar

Re: Working groups - different approach

2012-02-12 Thread David Francis Buhler
Regarding 1 & 2: Here's one possible way (with ANT) to begin creating localized content for the SDK.: We copy a RAW SDK into locale-specific folder names during a build. We add @Tokens@ in the .as / .mxml (?) files that correspond to help content (stored in properties' files) We use English as th

Re: SVN vs Git

2012-02-12 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Dwayne, Github is not going to happen (for a variety of reasons), but the infastrcture team at Apache is experimenting with GIT. For the short-term, we will be on SVN, but I know there are quite a few people that are looking forward to using GIT vs. SVN. -Nick On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:53 PM, D

Re: [jira] [Created] (FLEX-14) Flex SDK 4.6 dosn't work on FlashPlayer 10.3 and requires FlashPlayer 11.1

2012-02-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I foresee many arguments later about specific features that will require FP > upgrades. Well I think we should take the "progressive enhancement" view. if you've got the latest then that great it will run a bit faster and may have a couple of nice new new features. Enabling developers to

Re: [jira] [Created] (FLEX-14) Flex SDK 4.6 dosn't work on FlashPlayer 10.3 and requires FlashPlayer 11.1

2012-02-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I agree. I would like to see less forcing of the upgrade path in the future. > I wonder if there is a solution to this problem like, let's say separating > logic and injecting dependencies :) sorry couldn't help it. Yes why would we want to make life easy for ourselves? :-) > When I get t

Re: [jira] [Created] (FLEX-14) Flex SDK 4.6 dosn't work on FlashPlayer 10.3 and requires FlashPlayer 11.1

2012-02-12 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Michael A. Labriola < labri...@digitalprimates.net> wrote: > I agree. I would like to see less forcing of the upgrade path in the > future. I wonder if there is a solution to this problem like, let's say > separating logic and injecting dependencies :) sorry couldn

RE: [jira] [Created] (FLEX-14) Flex SDK 4.6 dosn't work on FlashPlayer 10.3 and requires FlashPlayer 11.1

2012-02-12 Thread Michael A. Labriola
>I have no issue with that at all. Could you find any other way around the >issue eg by just checking FP version numbers in the code or dare I say it >monkey patching the missing classes? The problem, if I am recalling correctly, is that more than once class has a concrete dependency on a newe

Re: [jira] [Created] (FLEX-14) Flex SDK 4.6 dosn't work on FlashPlayer 10.3 and requires FlashPlayer 11.1

2012-02-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi Mike, > If we are willing to conditionally compile a few minor places, I can get 4.6 > running on 10.2. I have no issue with that at all. Could you find any other way around the issue eg by just checking FP version numbers in the code or dare I say it monkey patching the missing classes? >

RE: [jira] [Created] (FLEX-14) Flex SDK 4.6 dosn't work on FlashPlayer 10.3 and requires FlashPlayer 11.1

2012-02-12 Thread Michael A. Labriola
If we are willing to conditionally compile a few minor places, I can get 4.6 running on 10.2. You are correct that there are some loses in doing this but I have it running on 10.2 in the field presently for enterprises who were unwilling to update. Mike -Original Message- From: Justin

[jira] [Created] (FLEX-14) Flex SDK 4.6 dosn't work on FlashPlayer 10.3 and requires FlashPlayer 11.1

2012-02-12 Thread Justin Mclean (Created) (JIRA)
Flex SDK 4.6 dosn't work on FlashPlayer 10.3 and requires FlashPlayer 11.1 -- Key: FLEX-14 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-14 Project: Apache Flex Issue

Re: [RT]Flex Camps

2012-02-12 Thread James Roland Cabresos
The move to Apache also held us off what we've planned also. Hopefully having these guidelines we can get a good picture for a Flex Camp and pick up where we left off. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:13 AM, JP Bader wrote: > In Chicago we are hosting Adobe's Christophe Conraets and Digital > Primate'

[DECISION] Unit Testing and Mocking Frameworks (was: [RT] Recommendation Unit-Test System?)

2012-02-12 Thread Omar Gonzalez
After the discussion we had around unit testing and mocking frameworks we had two very generous offers from Michael Labriola (FlexUnit) and Drew Bourne (Mockolate/hamcrest-as3). Michael is awaiting feedback from a mentor (Bertrand was on the thread) on what the next steps would be to make a donati

SVN vs Git

2012-02-12 Thread Dwayne Henderson
Hello! Is there any chance we could get Apache to consider switching from SVN to Git? Maybe even GitHub ? It should be easy if the SVN repo is sensible and uses a clear structure. Tech Talk: Linus Torvalds on git: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 http://thinkvitamin.

Re: Status of the SVN import to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flex/trunk

2012-02-12 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > Update: Was told by the infrastructure team that this has to wait until > > this weekend so that it doesn't interrupt any other projects using the > > repository. > > Does anyone have an updated ETA on this? Was there an issue impor

RE: Rsl style loading of dependencies from a module

2012-02-12 Thread Michael A. Labriola
>Got it. I wrote this for a client already. Let me see if this is something >that we can contribute. Which is another way of saying, feel free to assign this to me :) Notice: This transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain infor

RE: Rsl style loading of dependencies from a module

2012-02-12 Thread Michael A. Labriola
> The use case is this: in a large enterprise app I may not be in > control of the application itself, but merely be in control of my > module which gets loaded on demand in the app. > If I compile my module with dependencies configured to rsl, it will > have no effect, since the module hasn't got

Re: Starting with the Whiteboard Code

2012-02-12 Thread Martin Heidegger
I was working on something like an AspectJ implementation ... Compile-time-AOP has the obvious problem that you can not load an additional library at runtime into a container. That is one of the main reason for the popularity of spring in java - it offered reasonably fast AOP at runtime tha

Rsl style loading of dependencies from a module

2012-02-12 Thread Espen Skogen
> > Hi Michael. > > The use case is this: in a large enterprise app I may not be in > control of the application itself, but merely be in control of my > module which gets loaded on demand in the app. > If I compile my module with dependencies configured to rsl, it will > have no effect, since the

Re: Status of the SVN import to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flex/trunk

2012-02-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Update: Was told by the infrastructure team that this has to wait until > this weekend so that it doesn't interrupt any other projects using the > repository. Does anyone have an updated ETA on this? Was there an issue importing or is it still waiting to be done? Thanks, Justin

Re: [RT]Flex Camps

2012-02-12 Thread Keith Sutton
Good idea, and definitely time to get some guidelines on the rails. I have also passed on the question to Adobe's community manager to see what is their position. K On 2/12/2012 1:13 AM, James Roland Cabresos wrote: A Flex camp is one of the things that markets Flex to a community. As Adobe

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-8) Make SDK build with Maven/Flexmojos and deploy release and snapshot artifacts to the Apache Maven repository

2012-02-12 Thread Martin Heidegger (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-8?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13206506#comment-13206506 ] Martin Heidegger commented on FLEX-8: - Gradle implementation for IntelliJ is on the way:

RE: Starting with the Whiteboard Code

2012-02-12 Thread Michael A. Labriola
>>If I'm not wrong, you did some deep experiments in DI and AOP, what can you >>say about performences ? did you do measurements ? if yes, how ? Because of the VM limitations, the type of AOP I was most interested in was compile time. I was working on something like an AspectJ implementation. S

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-8) Make SDK build with Maven/Flexmojos and deploy release and snapshot artifacts to the Apache Maven repository

2012-02-12 Thread Espen Skogen (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-8?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13206498#comment-13206498 ] Espen Skogen commented on FLEX-8: - I personally have no experience with Gradle, and there's a

RE: [jira] [Created] (FLEX-13) As a developer I would like to be able to load dependencies in an RSL like fashion from a flex module.

2012-02-12 Thread Michael A. Labriola
>>As a developer I would like to be able to load dependencies in an RSL like >>fashion from a flex module. I am very curious about this. RSLs and Modules are basically the same thing, a SWF file with assets. The difference is that a module includes an extra class to act as a factory for the mo

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-8) Make SDK build with Maven/Flexmojos and deploy release and snapshot artifacts to the Apache Maven repository

2012-02-12 Thread Martin Heidegger (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-8?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13206470#comment-13206470 ] Martin Heidegger commented on FLEX-8: - I think it is a lot more appreciated if you use Gra

[jira] [Created] (FLEX-13) As a developer I would like to be able to load dependencies in an RSL like fashion from a flex module.

2012-02-12 Thread Espen Skogen (Created) (JIRA)
As a developer I would like to be able to load dependencies in an RSL like fashion from a flex module. -- Key: FLEX-13 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/F

[jira] [Created] (FLEX-12) Make the lowest level libraries compile with maven.

2012-02-12 Thread Espen Skogen (Created) (JIRA)
Make the lowest level libraries compile with maven. --- Key: FLEX-12 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-12 Project: Apache Flex Issue Type: Sub-task Reporter: Espen Sko

[jira] [Work started] (FLEX-12) Make the lowest level libraries compile with maven.

2012-02-12 Thread Espen Skogen (Work started) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-12?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Work on FLEX-12 started by Espen Skogen. > Make the lowest level libraries compile with maven. > --- > > Key:

[jira] [Work started] (FLEX-8) Make SDK build with Maven/Flexmojos and deploy release and snapshot artifacts to the Apache Maven repository

2012-02-12 Thread Espen Skogen (Work started) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-8?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Work on FLEX-8 started by Espen Skogen. > Make SDK build with Maven/Flexmojos and deploy release and snapshot artifacts > to the Apache Maven repository > --

[jira] [Work logged] (FLEX-8) Make SDK build with Maven/Flexmojos and deploy release and snapshot artifacts to the Apache Maven repository

2012-02-12 Thread Espen Skogen (Work logged) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-8?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel\#worklog-{worklog.getId()} ] Espen Skogen logged work on FLEX-8: --- Author: Espen Skogen Created on: 12/Feb/12

Re: [RT] Awesome FlexNext User Experience (was: Starting with the Whiteboard code)

2012-02-12 Thread Martin Heidegger
The differences to languages like Python is that AS3 requires a compiler, and unlike - for example - haXe the compiler for AS3 is not written in AS3. One option is to implement that nice functionality would be a compiler in AS3. There is rudimentary ActionScript 3 evaluator called "Eval" avai

Re: [RT] Awesome FlexNext User Experience (was: Starting with the Whiteboard code)

2012-02-12 Thread JP Bader
I have never seen wonderfl.net, but that is exactly the idea of what we can build, however I am envisioning something more like rails for zombies, or learn Python the hard way, which actually can take you through a series of tutorials that will help you experience some of the more basic aspects of

Re: [RT]Flex Camps

2012-02-12 Thread JP Bader
In Chicago we are hosting Adobe's Christophe Conraets and Digital Primate's Michael Labriola to plug the future of Flex, Spoon, and the future of Adobe's involvement with it. Before Adobe began the process of moving Flex to Apache, we had actually begun planning a Flex/Flash camp, but have since h

Re: [RT]Flex Camps

2012-02-12 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
James, I would recommend you talk to the guys at Spoon. While we haven't ramped up to do Flex Camps yet, we are in the process of kicking off a roadshow that may help you out. Keith is the guy you should be talking to ( ke...@spoon.as). He has been coordinating all of the Spoon UG efforts to da

Re: [RT]Flex Camps

2012-02-12 Thread James Roland Cabresos
Yes I am a user group manager. I'm not really looking for funding support here in Apache, but just information that this community want to push to Flex Camps. Yes we have Adobe contacts, but it's kind of different now as Flex is on Apache, it's not enough that we only get the information on Ado

Re: [RT]Flex Camps

2012-02-12 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 2/12/2012 4:13 AM, James Roland Cabresos wrote: A Flex camp is one of the things that markets Flex to a community. As Adobe still are committed to developing the tool for Flex, I assumed that they will still support these camps. Gathering resources today will be much more different than it w

Re: Continuous integration for Flex (was: [RT] Recommendation Unit-Test System?)

2012-02-12 Thread Martin Heidegger
On 12/02/2012 19:01, Martin Heidegger wrote: I don't know why to wait for it. The source doesn't change because its history is not imported yet. It seems like a boring excuse not to start. The pushing is now through.[1] I'd say: lets start branching :) yours Martin. https://github.com/martinh

Re: [RT] Recommendation Unit-Test System?

2012-02-12 Thread Martin Heidegger
Hello Drew, I am voting for Gradle, FlexUnit and Mockolate to be used for the unit tests. yours Martin. On 12/02/2012 19:03, Drew Bourne wrote: As a few of my projects have been mentioned (Mockolate, hamcrest-as3) I would like to offer whatever help I can to make using them for testing Flex

Re: [RT] Recommendation Unit-Test System?

2012-02-12 Thread Drew Bourne
As a few of my projects have been mentioned (Mockolate, hamcrest-as3) I would like to offer whatever help I can to make using them for testing Flex the best option. Let me know if there are issues preventing their usage, such as licensing or dependencies. To clear up one point, Mockolate does supp

Re: Continuous integration for Flex (was: [RT] Recommendation Unit-Test System?)

2012-02-12 Thread Martin Heidegger
On 12/02/2012 18:09, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, Svn git mirror request is: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4366 Looks like is just waiting for the trunk to be imported? Justin I don't know why to wait for it. The source doesn't change because its history is not imported yet. It se

Re: Continuous integration for Flex (was: [RT] Recommendation Unit-Test System?)

2012-02-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > The SVN history is not important for creating a proposal and it is not > important for us to start discussing next steps. Not essential no but still can be very useful. > The code in Github should be sufficient to start the Building discussion and > subsequently create Jira entries with

[RT]Flex Camps

2012-02-12 Thread James Roland Cabresos
A Flex camp is one of the things that markets Flex to a community. As Adobe still are committed to developing the tool for Flex, I assumed that they will still support these camps. Gathering resources today will be much more different than it was before. I think every Flex user group manager ou

Re: Continuous integration for Flex (was: [RT] Recommendation Unit-Test System?)

2012-02-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Svn git mirror request is: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4366 Looks like is just waiting for the trunk to be imported? Justin

Re: Continuous integration for Flex (was: [RT] Recommendation Unit-Test System?)

2012-02-12 Thread Martin Heidegger
On 12/02/2012 17:54, Justin Mclean wrote: Yes there is a version in the whiteboard (but it's missing the full SVN history) the "real" trunk is due to be imported this weekend so should be there real soon now. There was a request for for a Git mirror of Flex SVN but I'm not sure where that's a

Re: Continuous integration for Flex (was: [RT] Recommendation Unit-Test System?)

2012-02-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi Martin, Yes there is a version in the whiteboard (but it's missing the full SVN history) the "real" trunk is due to be imported this weekend so should be there real soon now. There was a request for for a Git mirror of Flex SVN but I'm not sure where that's at. Justin On 12/02/2012, at 7:

Re: Continuous integration for Flex (was: [RT] Recommendation Unit-Test System?)

2012-02-12 Thread Martin Heidegger
On 12/02/2012 17:08, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi Yennick, The truck hasn't been checked in yet. It's due to happen (unless there is an issue with the import) this weekend so hopefully it will occur in the next 24 hours. Justin Hello Justin, you are talking about the SVN History for the trunk i

Re: Continuous integration for Flex (was: [RT] Recommendation Unit-Test System?)

2012-02-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi Yennick, The truck hasn't been checked in yet. It's due to happen (unless there is an issue with the import) this weekend so hopefully it will occur in the next 24 hours. Justin