The differences to languages like Python is that AS3 requires a
compiler, and unlike - for example - haXe the compiler for AS3 is not
written in AS3.
One option is to implement that nice functionality would be a compiler
in AS3. There is rudimentary ActionScript 3 evaluator called "Eval"
available [1].
The other option would be to "call" the Compiler using a Java
executable. [2] That will work "perfectly" but requires the java plugin
to be installed.
The third option would be to compile it on a server which well ... would
require a server. Wonderfl is nice but highly proprietary. And we could
not use
those examples offline.
A completely different approach would be to implement a "IDE" tutorial.
To be used with all AS3 ide's out there. You download the IDE and there
you have access to documentation from Apache. This way all the IDE's
could provide the same Flex documentation that "interacts" with their
editor.
Just thoughts.
yours
Martin.
[1] http://eval.hurlant.com/
[2] http://www.victordramba.com/?p=31
On 13/02/2012 01:57, JP Bader wrote:
I have never seen wonderfl.net, but that is exactly the idea of what
we can build, however I am envisioning something more like rails for
zombies, or learn Python the hard way, which actually can take you
through a series of tutorials that will help you experience some of
the more basic aspects of Flex (and AS3), and then delve into some of
the more complex aspects, leaving the ending open for users to go
explore.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 5:10 PM, David Francis Buhler
<davidbuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
http://wonderfl.net/ does it.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Ariel Jakobovits<arielj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
An interactive tutorial
Would it be a lot of work for us to set up a server that could compile Flex
code and return a compiled swf for a beginner to see as they follow a lesson
plan and learn to program Flex?
Ariel Jakobovits
Email: arielj...@yahoo.com
Phone: 650-690-2213
Fax: 650-641-0031
Cell: 650-823-8699
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From: JP Bader<j...@zavteq.com>
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [RT] Awesome FlexNext User Experience (was: Starting with the
Whiteboard code)
Agreed. One of the things we need to also demonstrate is the ease of
development concept, something that David pointed out with Sencha, Go
and even tryruby.org. An interactive tutorial would be great for
getting Apache Flex out to the masses for ease of use, and examples
should be focused on current-day use cases.
I have tons of examples that are useful in my bookmark bar, and those
range from Flash IDE to Flashbuilder IDE, all using actionscript, but
not necessarily the same codebase nor framework. Should we suggest a
page added to the wiki for creating/displaying/cataloguing these
learning experiences?
JP
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Greg Lafrance<glafra...@ipass.com> wrote:
I'd also like to see a showcase of applications developed that not only
inspire developers as to what's possible, but provide useful code either
for developers creating proof or concepts for internal approval or as
starting code for actual projects.
This would not be a tour de flex, but rather a number of basic applications
for various industries. So for example basic apps for:
- allowing users to manage images they have gathered (possibly an AIR app)
- showing financial data for some stocks, with charts based on financial
data
- a shopping cart
- managing one's social networks (Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc)
- mobile AIR apps that offer an appropriate subset of each app
This would not be done quickly or easily, but if such apps are planned
well, and created, and offered as open source code (with whatever is the
appropriate license), developers from a variety of industries can more
quickly jump into using Flex.
One thing I was amazed at is that Adobe never (and most tech companies
never do) created such multi-industry sample apps, which over time could
include sample backend code, and become more complex sample apps.
Not easy, but along with stunningly excellent documentation, can get
developers swarming to Apache Flex.
BTW, I really love the new logo. Very kool!
Greg
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Martin Heidegger<m...@leichtgewicht.at>wrote:
Dear List,
it can be hard to find a vision for the next version of Flex. Developers
like us like discussions about technical details and they are boring.
I think that is not enough! I think we need something that inspires us to
create something new - something that makes us believe that the things
created with Apache Flex are awesome.
We can make awesome things!
I propose following: Lets ask everyone who listens for user experience
concepts - full or partial. Things that they could see Flex is going to so
the PPMC get a better feeling how awesome they could be.
The proposals should be split in a few categories:
*) _HTML/JS compatible:_ To compile mxmlc/AS3 -> html/js the concept has
to work within the restrictions of HTML/JS with a optional royal look and
feel when being built for Flash without breaking the system.
*) _Flash super-powered:_ Systems that leverage the power of the current
version of the Flash Player without thinking for a second about HTML: Stage
3D / HD videos / JPEG XR / Slick custom fonts / Pixelbender effects /
(generated audio) / ...
*) _Touch centric:_ Focussing on the fingers:
Swipe/Zoom/Rotate/Expand/**Swoosh/...
These concepts don't need to care about a mouse or keyboard.
*) _Fully portable:_ Interfaces flexible enough to be represented in the
style of various Operation systems without neglecting our need for style.
Awesome on Mac/iOS/Windows/Android with few adaptations.
Some rule-of-thumbs I can think of:
* Responsiveness is key: The more stuff that has to run at a time the
less likely it will rock.
* All assets should be open-source: Don't build on royal fonts or
imagery.
What would you think of such a request? Is that something that the PPMC
think is useful? Should we rock that?
Note: The various concepts should be presented in the Wiki.
yours
Martin.
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