On 11/02/2012 09:39, Michael A. Labriola wrote:
That's too bad because we are running into issues with file system path length
limitations on Windows in our local Perforce workspace, even with our root in
C:\.perforce.
As far as I can see, neither buildbot nor Jenkins (the two systems
offered
On 05/02/2012 09:40, jude wrote:
If you create an example like this, http...
I think the license under which that example posted this code is pretty
unacceptable. Also it is easier to discuss code properly if we post code
at github.
yours
Martin.
I tried to summarize the discussion around Printing in the wiki. [1]
I am not sure which way to go from here. I got this crazy idea in my
head to create a html representation of the UI that then can be printed
using standard HTML printing and CSS. The problem with that would be
that paging and
The logo has been contributed in via Jira [1]. I think you can freely
create a wallpaper. However: I guess it would be nice if you would let
the mailinglist know if you made something cool.
yours
Martin.
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-11
On 11/02/2012 11:54, Carlos Zaragoza wr
Original Message
> From: "Michael A. Labriola"
>
> Not sure how the logistics of this would work, however, if we wanted to
bring FlexUnit into the fold, I would be willing to donate all of the code
to Apache directly. Right now it is MIT license.
>
That sounds great Mike.
On 11/02/2012 08:10, David Francis Buhler wrote:
http://wonderfl.net/ does it.
wonderfl.net is awesome but does not harmonize with the Apache process.
Imagine we create tons of docs and Kayac decides to just shut down the
server. Or if we introduce a new library and its not being included into
>>That's too bad because we are running into issues with file system path
>>length limitations on Windows in our local Perforce workspace, even with our
>>root in C:\.perforce.
Yes, it sure is.
Notice: This transmission is intended only for the use of the individual or
entity to which it is add
Just because it seemed to created some misunderstanding.
The post was intended to focus on the _design_ aspect of
end-user-experiences. The stuff that we do with Flex.
yours
Martin.
On 11/02/2012 01:00, Martin Heidegger wrote:
Dear List,
it can be hard to find a vision for the next version
On 11/02/2012 07:00, Ariel Jakobovits wrote:
Regarding asdocs, will we be able to reliably point users to the Flash Player
AS3 documentation from our imported Flex doc site?
Of course not. The Flash Player as well as the AS3 Language are not
planned to be submitted to Apache.
However: I, pers
http://wonderfl.net/
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote:
>
> Adobe had one of those sites; but it's no longer up. Maybe it was
> tryflex.com ? I think that was in the Flex 2 days. I always assumed it got
> no traction.
>
> --
http://wonderfl.net/ does it.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Ariel Jakobovits wrote:
>> An interactive tutorial
> Would it be a lot of work for us to set up a server that could compile Flex
> code and return a compiled swf for a beginner to see as they follow a lesson
> plan and learn to prog
@Martin
Unfortunately the code of that application wont help much i think.
Simply because the application was not written in AS3/MXML but in Java
using GWT.
I was talking more about the structure of the app which was inspired from
the Ext-GWT explorer.
2012/2/10 Martin Heidegger
> On 11/02/2012
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote:
> On 2/10/2012 5:04 PM, Ariel Jakobovits wrote:
>
>> An interactive tutorial
>>>
>> Would it be a lot of work for us to set up a server that could compile
>> Flex code and return a compiled swf for a beginner to see as they follow a
>> lesson
On 2/10/2012 5:04 PM, Ariel Jakobovits wrote:
An interactive tutorial
Would it be a lot of work for us to set up a server that could compile Flex
code and return a compiled swf for a beginner to see as they follow a lesson
plan and learn to program Flex?
Adobe had one of those sites; but
That's too bad because we are running into issues with file system path length
limitations on Windows in our local Perforce workspace, even with our root in
C:\.perforce.
Ariel Jakobovits
Email: arielj...@yahoo.com
Phone: 650-690-2213
Fax: 650-641-0031
Cell: 650-823-8699
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> An interactive tutorial
Would it be a lot of work for us to set up a server that could compile Flex
code and return a compiled swf for a beginner to see as they follow a lesson
plan and learn to program Flex?
Ariel Jakobovits
Email: arielj...@yahoo.com
Phone: 650-690-2213
Fax: 650-641-0031
Ce
> a showcase of applications
this could be done as a fun community space of custom layouts, components,
visualizations, skins, etc.
Ariel Jakobovits
Email: arielj...@yahoo.com
Phone: 650-690-2213
Fax: 650-641-0031
Cell: 650-823-8699
From: Greg Lafrance
To: fl
Regarding asdocs, will we be able to reliably point users to the Flash Player
AS3 documentation from our imported Flex doc site?
Ariel Jakobovits
Email: arielj...@yahoo.com
Phone: 650-690-2213
Fax: 650-641-0031
Cell: 650-823-8699
From: Martin Heidegger
To: fl
> offered too many Flex examples
never
> Future hiding of the examples until the user clicked a button made 'seeing'
> the examples more involved.
is 'involved' good or bad, i can't tell from the context?
> The Help Docs were longer than necessary.
i like long help docs, means there is a good ch
On 11/02/2012 01:55, Alain Ekambi wrote:
We have create something similar to the EXT-GWT explorer for our product
Gwt4Flex. ( http://www.gwt4air.appspot.com/ )
Something in that direction would definitly be usefull.
It would be awesome if you could publish the code under a APL compatible
licens
>I'd much prefer if this discussion can happen here so that others can learn
>how such a donation would work.
>
>However, feel free to ping me and/or other mentors directly or via the
>flex-private list if some parts of this discussion need to be private.
Works for me. The project is MIT license
On 11/02/2012 02:56, David Francis Buhler wrote:
I'm curious how Open-Source projects handle the localization of documentation.
- Every system does it differently, this can be handled in a lot of ways.
I structure it for me like that:
- If documentation is deployed with the release of a projec
> Having said that, running Flexmojos 4 with FlexUnit and coverage is pretty
> painless on Redhat.
>I have had pretty many problems running AIR tests (for air specific code) on
>linux.
Also remember that, so far as I know, Adobe AIR for linux is not under
development so we won't be able to run
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Michael A. Labriola
wrote:
>>>As it's a sizable chunk of code (I assume), note that this requires a code
>>>grant from whoever owns that code, see
>>>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt - nothing complicated but
>>>provenance and >>donation must be
On 11/02/2012 03:41, Michael A. Labriola wrote:
I am the original author of most of it. Mind if I ping you off list to learn
more?
It seems like this process will be similar for other projects /
products. I for my part wouldn't mind keeping the discussion on the list.
yours
Martin.
>>I'm curious how Open-Source projects handle the localization of documentation.
Before Adobe started the process of donating Flex to Apache, Spoon was working
with them to open the localization of the framework and eventually docs to the
community. We can see if Adobe is willing to donate any o
>What makes it less exciting to me is that it references to hamcrest-as3.
>I am not sure how essential it is to FlexUnit but it would need to be
>referenced.
It can be built without referencing hamcrest. They share an interface that
needs to be kept in sync in that case, but that is the only dow
>>As it's a sizable chunk of code (I assume), note that this requires a code
>>grant from whoever owns that code, see
>>http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt - nothing complicated but
>>provenance and >>donation must be documented.
Bertrand,
I am the original author of most of it.
Martin,
My apologies for thread-hijacking.
I'm curious how Open-Source projects handle the localization of documentation.
My understanding is that Adobe intends to donate the Tour de Flex
application, per another thread. With all due-respect to the efforts
of those involved with developing Tour
Looks like my post did not get through
2012/2/10 Alain Ekambi
> We have create something similar to the EXT-GWT explorer for our product
> Gwt4Flex. ( http://www.gwt4air.appspot.com/ )
>
> Something in that direction would definitly be usefull.
>
>
>
> 2012/2/10 Martin Heidegger
>
>> Hello
Agreed. One of the things we need to also demonstrate is the ease of
development concept, something that David pointed out with Sencha, Go
and even tryruby.org. An interactive tutorial would be great for
getting Apache Flex out to the masses for ease of use, and examples
should be focused on curr
On 11/02/2012 01:56, Haykel BEN JEMIA wrote:
Nice proposal Mike. Regarding 'Fully portable', is that not just a matter
of skinning or are you thinking about more?
Haykel
The word "Skin" has certain restrictions in the current Flex model which
is why I tried to avoid it.
I am talking about rule
I'd also like to see a showcase of applications developed that not only
inspire developers as to what's possible, but provide useful code either
for developers creating proof or concepts for internal approval or as
starting code for actual projects.
This would not be a tour de flex, but rather a n
On 11/02/2012 01:56, Skogen, Espen wrote:
Having said that, running Flexmojos 4 with FlexUnit and coverage is pretty
painless on Redhat.
I have had pretty many problems running AIR tests (for air specific
code) on linux.
yours
Martin.
Having said that, running Flexmojos 4 with FlexUnit and coverage is pretty
painless on Redhat.
Definitely we worth looking at.
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Nice proposal Mike. Regarding 'Fully portable', is that not just a matter
of skinning or are you thinking about more?
Haykel
On 10 February 2012 17:00, Martin Heidegger wrote:
> Dear List,
>
> it can be hard to find a vision for the next version of Flex. Developers
> like us like discussions
We have create something similar to the EXT-GWT explorer for our product
Gwt4Flex. ( http://www.gwt4air.appspot.com/ )
Something in that direction would definitly be usefull.
2012/2/10 Martin Heidegger
> Hello Francis
>
> I think you are talking more about developer experience than end-user
>
Hello Francis
I think you are talking more about developer experience than end-user
experience.
The wiki seems a good start for documentation to me but I agree that it
has some serious drawbacks.
For example: we can not easily include swf's and AS3 code formatting is
sub-par. But i think if
I'd like to see the examples and documentation be part of an improved,
cohesive 'brand' outlined. The rest of the outline I agree with.
Someone else had suggested the idea of emulating the
examples/documentation Sencha/JQuery use, which I second. Likewise,
Google does an excellent job with http:/
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:00:16 +0900
> From: m...@leichtgewicht.at
> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [RT] Awesome FlexNext User Experience (was: Starting with the
> Whiteboard code)
>
> Dear List,
>
> it can be hard to find a vision for the next version of Flex. Developers
>
I am completely up for this. I vote for doing something along this line...
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Martin Heidegger wrote:
> Dear List,
>
> it can be hard to find a vision for the next version of Flex. Developers
> like us like discussions about technical details and they are boring.
>
>
Dear List,
it can be hard to find a vision for the next version of Flex. Developers
like us like discussions about technical details and they are boring.
I think that is not enough! I think we need something that inspires us
to create something new - something that makes us believe that the
The BSD license is similar to the APL - Category A
http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a
so I don't see a problem.
yours
Martin.
On 11/02/2012 00:52, David Francis Buhler wrote:
Do the FlexPMD and FlexCPD licenses allow us to use the aforementioned
projects in an Apache Project
Do the FlexPMD and FlexCPD licenses allow us to use the aforementioned
projects in an Apache Project (as part of a CI Environment)?
http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexpmd/License
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Martin Heidegger
wrote:
> On 11/02/2012 00:32, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote
On 11/02/2012 00:32, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Info about build services for Apache projects is at http://ci.apache.org/
Awesome! There are two systems that actually have Windows and MacOS
servers at their hands to choose from:
http://ci.apache.org/buildbot.html
https://builds.apache.or
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Martin Heidegger wrote:
> On 11/02/2012 00:04, David Francis Buhler wrote:
>> Is there any interest in adopting a Continuous Integration environment
>> which kick off the Unit Tests, perhaps using Hudson?
>>
> ...Apache has a continuous integration server project c
Maven (and Flex Mojos)?
It can be a PITA to setup/maintain, but can run Flex unit tests in a
headless environment (i.e. no FP/AIR runtime installation needed, i
don't believe).
I've been on projects that run Maven in conjunction with CI ant
scripts (Lunt, Hudson/Jenkins, et al).
As a side note,
On 11/02/2012 00:04, David Francis Buhler wrote:
Is there any interest in adopting a Continuous Integration environment
which kick off the Unit Tests, perhaps using Hudson?
Note: I am unaware of the license restrictions for Hudson.
Apache has a continuous integration server project called Contin
Is there any interest in adopting a Continuous Integration environment
which kick off the Unit Tests, perhaps using Hudson?
Note: I am unaware of the license restrictions for Hudson.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Martin Heidegger
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Martin Heidegger wrote:
> FlexUnit itself is a very generous offer which I think the PPMC should take.
> Perhaps Michael can make a submission request?...
As it's a sizable chunk of code (I assume), note that this requires a
code grant from whoever owns that code,
FlexUnit itself is a very generous offer which I think the PPMC should
take. Perhaps Michael can make a submission request?
What makes it less exciting to me is that it references to hamcrest-as3.
I am not sure how essential it is to FlexUnit but it would need to be
referenced.
And the quest
Michael's generous offer sounds like a no-brainer to me. If FlexUnit merges in
with Apache Flex, we have the original author on the PPMC, and it is supported
in both IntelliJ and Flash Builder, I see absolutely no reason to consider
supporting another unit testing framework for the Apache Flex p
I agree. This is going to affect both build config and code consistency. Our
test suites should be as consistent and clean as the production code. In fact,
I'd argue the unit test framework and syntax style should be part of our code
standards. (e.g. standard asserts vs hamcrest etc)
E:)
Espe
W dniu 2012-02-09 19:52, Martin Heidegger pisze:
1) A framework that produces awesome(in other words new!) experiences:
Great design, super interactivity. Its enough if they are published
like minimalcomps: without CSS or anything. Just so people see Apache
Flex is coll and they want that o
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Martin Heidegger wrote:
> ...Are the
> unit tests part of the things that Apache Flex offers as download to the
> user?...
Apache projects release source code, and unit tests are usually
released with that.
>
> ...That means that the contribution of FlexUnit
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