Re: [OT] Future of Flex talk

2012-01-24 Thread James Roland Cabresos
Me Gusta! On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Giorgio Natili wrote: > > >I'm can provide the slides if anyone want to use them as a basis for a > >talk. > > Yeas please! > > >

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

2012-01-24 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
On 25 January 2012 08:32, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/24/12 11:24 PM, "Haykel BEN JEMIA" wrote: > > > Alex, you say the prototype was not faster, I suppose this is the case > when > > all features are enabled which is actually a good result (if it's not > > slower). But the idea is that appli

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

2012-01-24 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/24/12 11:24 PM, "Haykel BEN JEMIA" wrote: > Alex, you say the prototype was not faster, I suppose this is the case when > all features are enabled which is actually a good result (if it's not > slower). But the idea is that applications almost never require all > features. I disabled all

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

2012-01-24 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
Alex, you say the prototype was not faster, I suppose this is the case when all features are enabled which is actually a good result (if it's not slower). But the idea is that applications almost never require all features. Regarding backward-compatibility, if it will prevent innovation, what abou

Re: [OT] Future of Flex talk

2012-01-24 Thread Giorgio Natili
>I'm can provide the slides if anyone want to use them as a basis for a >talk. Yeas please!

[OT] Future of Flex talk

2012-01-24 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi there, I've been invited to gave a talk on the Future of Flex at the Sydney Adobe platform user Group in a months time. Here's a rough draft/outline of what I was thinking of talking about. it's likely to change as things progress here over the next month. Anyone have any other topics or su

Re: [Subject Tagging]

2012-01-24 Thread Giorgio Natili
>+1 for a morning welcome with posting rules. It usually takes two weeks >for something to become a habit... Can everyone that believe it's useful send me off-list the tags that have in mind? I will mix them up and make a proposal for a welcome message to send each morning. G.

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Scott Delamater
#49 +1 (Binding)

Re: playerglobal.swc version build issue

2012-01-24 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/24/12 7:05 PM, "Scott Delamater" wrote: > Alex, can you speak to the level of resourcing that FlashPlayer is > receiving from Adobe? I feel like that could help alleviate some of this > fear of abandonment. (I feel like some, maybe not all, of that fear is just > blowback from communicati

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread James Roland Cabresos
#42 +1

Re: playerglobal.swc version build issue

2012-01-24 Thread Scott Delamater
Alex, can you speak to the level of resourcing that FlashPlayer is receiving from Adobe? I feel like that could help alleviate some of this fear of abandonment. (I feel like some, maybe not all, of that fear is just blowback from communication blunders.) sD

Re: ApacheFlex Event?

2012-01-24 Thread Doug Arthur
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > >> I would like to turn >> the traditional after hours "Meet the Flex Team" into "Meet the Apache Flex >> Team", but that hasn't been decided yet. >> > > I like the way you think Alex.

RE: metadata

2012-01-24 Thread Michael A. Labriola
Sure, I will find the code again and post it somewhere. It is just a bunch of prototype code, but here is the gist: I search all of the classes and I find all matching metadata, for example properties noted with [Inject]. I build a small class that has a reference to each of these classes, alon

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread David Buhler
It appears as though a Mobile Form Factor takes into consideration screen-coordinates for controls. The remaining properties are common accessibility approaches on a Desktop/Browser application. "Hints" is similar to the Flex Frameworks's "accessibility.description". Apple's VoiceOver documentati

Re: metadata

2012-01-24 Thread Om
Bumping this thread. Michael, your note about post-processing metadata into an actionscript class and hence speeding things up without having to use describeType() sounds very interesting. Can you please post more info? I always wondered about how using descriptType() affects performance. Your

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Frank Altomare
I'm really interested in how this carries over to mobile, does anyone have some information on the state of accessibility on mobile devices? This seems like an interesting topic in it's own right. I really think GPU UI components would be best utilized on mobile. This feature would also really mak

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Herlambang Oktavianto
+1 #49 F and A impression looks great On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Stephen Adams wrote: > +1 #49 > > On 24 January 2012 14:43, Antonio Olmo Titos wrote: > > > > > +1 #49 > > > > -- > > Antonio Olmo Titos, software engineer > > > > > > >

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Andy Fleming
+1 #42 Andy. PS: Hi everyone! -- Andy Fleming Halogenics Level 5, 530 Collins Street Melbourne, Victoria 3000 Australia. T: (+61) 3 9024-7712 http://www.halogenics.com

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Brent Arnold
Apple has it's own implementation of accessibility. http://developer.apple.com/technologies/ios/accessibility.html But it doesn't do much with AIR apps. On 1/24/12 3:14 PM, Doug McCune wrote: While on the topic of accessibility, does anyone know how this transfers over to a mobile environment?

Re: Advice for Logo Contest Round 2

2012-01-24 Thread Remi P
Just to say that I do not agree with the idea that #49 includes something negative, I think just the opposite. For me #42 has a great design and represents something "flex".. but nothing more... and I fear this just becomes one more 'X' in our computing world... remi > I've already voiced my co

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Doug McCune
> > While on the topic of accessibility, does anyone know how this transfers > over to a mobile environment? > Don't think this ever got addressed. For mobile is this stuff even an issue? I have no idea how this works. Are there screen readers that read the UI elements of an iOS app?

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

2012-01-24 Thread Om
+1 to creating a sample application or at least templates of applications that we build with different SDKs(built with different approaches). It would give us a concrete target to work towards. I can help with this effort. Om On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Rick Winscot wrote: > If anyone is

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread David Buhler
JAWS. There are open-source Screen-Readers, but, if I remember right, the only Adobe supported platforms for Flex with Screen Readers were (are?) Windows, Internet Explorer and JAWS with JAWS scripts. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Rick Winscot wrote: > @David Buhler - did you use JAWS or some

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Rick Winscot
@David Buhler - did you use JAWS or something else for screen reading? On Jan 24, 2012 11:29 AM, "David Buhler" wrote: > I built a Flex website for the Federal government that was fully accessible > (PCIP.gov). I did a demo for Adobe of the Accessibility capabilities. I'm > glad to help with answ

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread David Buhler
Hi Roland, The inability to scroll through a list would not always be a show-stopper for an accessible user. The Section 508 Requirements state (and I'm paraphrasing here): -users with disabilities need to be able to access the same information (contextually) as a sighted user. Disabilities inc

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Mario E
+1 #42 On Tuesday, January 24, 2012, Simon Elcham wrote: > +1 #49 > > --- > Simon Elcham > > > > >

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

2012-01-24 Thread Rick Winscot
If anyone is interested in squeezing out n-th degree performance out of Flash... they've probably bumped into apparat. https://github.com/joa/apparat Adding constructs upon constructs in code amounts to entropy in ABC. De-composition, composition, inheritance, etc... all have costs and benefits

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Simon Elcham
+1 #49 --- Simon Elcham

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Tink
#42 (binding)

RE: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

2012-01-24 Thread Michael A. Labriola
That is actually my preference and the reason I was mentioning things like AOP at the summit. We could keep the classes nicely designed but not pay the priced at runtime. -Original Message- From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:32 PM To: flex-dev@i

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Ryan Frishberg
+1 #49 (binding) On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Stephen Adams wrote: > +1 #49 > > On 24 January 2012 14:43, Antonio Olmo Titos wrote: > > > > > +1 #49 > > > > -- > > Antonio Olmo Titos, software engineer > > > > > > >

Re: Advice for Logo Contest Round 2

2012-01-24 Thread Doug Arthur
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Doug Arthur wrote: > Yeah, same here. Another good reason NOT to tell some people about the > negative side, because some will just never see it until pointed out. > - Doug Hmm, not sure what happened there Google. I didn't hit send twice, but you decided to send

Re: Advice for Logo Contest Round 2

2012-01-24 Thread Doug Arthur
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Doug McCune wrote: >> >> (But don't ignore it or you >> will end up like Amazon who have a penis in their logo.) >> > > Will never unsee. Thanks. Yeah, same here. Another good reason NOT to tell some people about the negative side, because some will just never se

Re: Advice for Logo Contest Round 2

2012-01-24 Thread Doug Arthur
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Doug McCune wrote: >> >> (But don't ignore it or you >> will end up like Amazon who have a penis in their logo.) >> > > Will never unsee. Thanks. Yeah, same here. Another good reason NOT to tell some people about the negative side, because some will just never se

Re: is Any development going on Apache Flex

2012-01-24 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/24/2012 2:40 PM, nithya flex wrote: Hi All, I have seen few post like , which design pattern need to be used, patch issues and so on. As new member of this would like to know, is development is started, if Yes how can a new member contribute. how task are assigned. how can new member inv

Re: is Any development going on Apache Flex

2012-01-24 Thread Peter Elst
> As new member of this would like to know, is development is started, if > Yes how can a new member contribute. how task are assigned. We have the JIRA bug base which is a way for people to submit patches that can potentially get committed to source control by an Apache Flex committer. For now

is Any development going on Apache Flex

2012-01-24 Thread nithya flex
Hi All, I have seen few post like , which design pattern need to be used, patch issues and so on. As new member of this would like to know, is development is started, if Yes how can a new member contribute. how task are assigned. how can new member involve in this process. Thanks, Nithya

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Jun Heider
+1 #42 (Binding)

Re: Advice for Logo Contest Round 2

2012-01-24 Thread Doug McCune
> > (But don't ignore it or you > will end up like Amazon who have a penis in their logo.) > Will never unsee. Thanks.

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Stephan Plath
#42 +1

Re: [OT] - Apache critique

2012-01-24 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 24, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Roland Zwaga wrote: >> This is quite a critical (negative) view of the Apache foundation: >> http://www.mikealrogers.com/posts/apache-considered-harmful.html > > You might also want to read > “Considered

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Erik Lundgren
+1 #42

Re: Advice for Logo Contest Round 2

2012-01-24 Thread Tomasz Maciąg | Fuse Collective
It great to read this kind of constructive opinions. You did get what we're trying to express: flexibility, cross platform and kind of web 2.0 look&feel. The problem that we had while creating concepts was that the is no clear vision for what "new" apache flex will be, what message "Apache Flex"

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread After24
+1 #42

Re: [Automation] Could we loose automation for legal or business reasons?

2012-01-24 Thread Dirk Eismann
thanks Alex - good to know this. 2012/1/24 Alex Harui : > I had a meeting with a pretty high-level Adobe person yesterday and there is > still desire to work out the kinks on all of these issues.  It is simply a > matter of time.  Please be patient.

Re: [Automation] Could we loose automation for legal or business reasons?

2012-01-24 Thread Jonathan Campos
spoon.as On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Keith Sutton wrote: > Besides the official blog post does anyone have a list of the things that > came out of the Flex Summit? -- Jonathan Campos

Re: [Automation] Could we loose automation for legal or business reasons?

2012-01-24 Thread Keith Sutton
Besides the official blog post does anyone have a list of the things that came out of the Flex Summit? On 1/24/2012 10:26 AM, Alex Harui wrote: On 1/23/12 2:46 PM, "Tink" wrote: I'd like to know if the status is complete (spark components etc) legal (automation etc) development (falcon et

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

2012-01-24 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/24/12 10:20 AM, "Haykel BEN JEMIA" wrote: > I'm curious to see your work Alex. Were you able to do some performance and > memory tests with your prototype? > > Haykel Further back in this thread I stated that the prototype was not faster because of 'interstitial' costs: the cost of addin

Re: Advice for Logo Contest Round 2

2012-01-24 Thread Randy Troppmann
As harsh as the initial poster's comments are, I think he is not far off the mark. A contest is not a very good way to design a logo. Paul Rand (the famously successful IBM logo) once said that if he followed focus group advice to design that logo it would have "looked like this" and showed the let

Re: [Automation] Could we loose automation for legal or business reasons?

2012-01-24 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/23/12 2:46 PM, "Tink" wrote: > I'd like to know if the status is > > complete (spark components etc) > legal (automation etc) > development (falcon etc) > idle (not sure if we have any idle, which is why this list would be > useful, but anything that Adobe plan to contribute, but there i

Re: ApacheFlex Event?

2012-01-24 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > I would like to turn > the traditional after hours "Meet the Flex Team" into "Meet the Apache Flex > Team", but that hasn't been decided yet. > I like the way you think Alex. -- Jonathan Campos

Re: [Subject Tagging]

2012-01-24 Thread Keith Sutton
+1 for a morning welcome with posting rules. It usually takes two weeks for something to become a habit, from what I see on the mailing list things have improved immensely on the last two weeks in terms of readability just by following a few simple rules that are relatively self evident in how

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

2012-01-24 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
I'm curious to see your work Alex. Were you able to do some performance and memory tests with your prototype? Haykel On 24 January 2012 19:17, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/24/12 10:09 AM, "Haykel BEN JEMIA" wrote: > > > Just looking at the interfaces UIComponent implements I can see some

Re: ApacheFlex Event?

2012-01-24 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/24/12 10:15 AM, "Keith Sutton" wrote: > 360Flex would be a great milestone event for Apache Flex to discuss what > works, what doesn't and how to use it > > 360Flex historically held the first Flex event ever back in 2006 Adobe is planning to have a session on Apache Flex. I would like

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

2012-01-24 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/24/12 10:09 AM, "Haykel BEN JEMIA" wrote: > Just looking at the interfaces UIComponent implements I can see some > candidates for implementation as behaviors (besides the ones suggested by > Tink): > > public class UIComponent extends FlexSprite > implements IAutomationObject, IChild

Re: ApacheFlex Event?

2012-01-24 Thread Keith Sutton
360Flex would be a great milestone event for Apache Flex to discuss what works, what doesn't and how to use it 360Flex historically held the first Flex event ever back in 2006 On 1/24/2012 6:16 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: Depends on who you ask. Sometimes the story is yes, sometimes it is

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Rodrigo Pandini
+1 #49

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

2012-01-24 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
Just looking at the interfaces UIComponent implements I can see some candidates for implementation as behaviors (besides the ones suggested by Tink): public class UIComponent extends FlexSprite implements IAutomationObject, IChildList, IConstraintClient, IDeferredInstantiationUIComponent,

Re: [OT] - Apache critique

2012-01-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:59 PM, David Arno wrote: > ...Apache's insistence on owning products and restricting > who can make changes is irritating. For example, I'd like to create a > private -> protected fork of Flex and stick that on github as it's a > specialised product. Under Apache rules th

Re: [Wiki][User Groups]

2012-01-24 Thread Keith Sutton
It is definitely something we need to have for guidance and discussion. Almost everyone who has stepped forward as raised the issue of branding/naming and at some point we may need to have a conversation with Adobe & Apache. On 1/24/2012 12:41 AM, Giorgio Natili wrote: What is the protocol fo

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread MichaX
+1 #49 2012/1/24 Stephen Adams > +1 #49 > > On 24 January 2012 14:43, Antonio Olmo Titos wrote: > > > > > +1 #49 > > > > -- > > Antonio Olmo Titos, software engineer > > > > > > > -- Michał Kuliński Flash/Html Developer tel. 511 392 930 skype: xachim gg: 5215788

Re: Advice for Logo Contest Round 2

2012-01-24 Thread Doug Arthur
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Doug McCune wrote: >> >> a more thorough >> description of their reaction including specific points about >> their grievances with the current crop of logos. > > > OK, BIG disclaimer, since I think I've started coming off as more of an > asshole than I really am i

Re: [Discussion] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Arnoud Bos
To be honest i think you did a good thing. It's better to see stuff like that before than after the logo is chosen. What if people have afterwards have a "oh no! now i see it too" feeling? It's just the way people work in real life to. You do a pitch, talk together about results and then you

Re: [Discussion] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Doug Arthur
On Jan 24, 2012 10:35 AM, "Jonathan Campos" wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Doug McCune wrote: > > > Yeah, I did initially want to avoid that and I probably should have held my > > tongue. I only said something after people on list were asking for details > > about what people had ag

Re: [Discussion] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Erik Lundgren
About logo 49. The first thing I saw was the corner of a web-browser. Look at the top left corner of your browser and tilt your head! :) /Erik

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Arnoud Bos
> > On 1/24/12 8:02 AM, "Arnoud Bos" wrote: > >> So if Alex could ask Thibault if he can fix accessibility stuff for >> Stage3D (and then Starling) we're all set! ;-) > Believe me, folks are asking... Haha, It was meant in a funny way as you're the most prominent adobe employee here. But I k

Re: [Discussion] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/24/2012 12:29 PM, Doug McCune wrote: I think Florian was speaking to Doug McCune in regards to influencing others by describing his interpretation of the logo. I encourage everyone to discuss their thoughts on the logos. It serves no one to move forward with no discussion on potential im

Re: [Discussion] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Doug McCune wrote: > Yeah, I did initially want to avoid that and I probably should have held my > tongue. I only said something after people on list were asking for details > about what people had against particular logos. So looking back I shouldn't > have said

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Jarosław Szczepankiewicz
+1 #42 I have some experience in marketing relations and one of the most important thing with creating logos is to avoid similarities with negative values / connotations. In my personal opinion logo #49 can be read as "Falling Flex" which is very negative. I know that the author wanted to show the

Re: [OT] - Apache critique

2012-01-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Roland Zwaga wrote: > This is quite a critical (negative) view of the Apache foundation: > http://www.mikealrogers.com/posts/apache-considered-harmful.html You might also want to read “Considered Harmful” Essays Considered Harmful at http://meyerweb.com/eric/comme

Re: [Discussion] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Doug McCune
> > I think Florian was speaking to Doug McCune in regards to influencing > others by describing his interpretation of the logo. Now other people > may see the logo in the same light as he did, and may never have come > to that conclusion on their own, and are now swayed toward the > alternate opti

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/24/12 8:02 AM, "Arnoud Bos" wrote: > So if Alex could ask Thibault if he can fix accessibility stuff for > Stage3D (and then Starling) we're all set! ;-) Believe me, folks are asking... -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: Advice for Logo Contest Round 2

2012-01-24 Thread Doug McCune
> > a more thorough > description of their reaction including specific points about > their grievances with the current crop of logos. OK, BIG disclaimer, since I think I've started coming off as more of an asshole than I really am in real life: I LOVE the fact that we got so many logos and I app

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Chris Martin
+1 #49

Re: [Discussion] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Doug Arthur
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Florian Fesseler wrote: > 2012/1/24 David Arno > >> >> It's great that the PPMC members are seeking the opinions of the community, >> but care needs to be taken over how that is done. Cynical people might read >> what you wrote as "the PPMC likes #42. The communit

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Doug Arthur
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Tomasz Maciąg | Fuse Collective wrote: > Branding is not just logo so I thought that we could take some time to work > on more complete branding presentation, with different logo variations, > additional materials (e.g. t-shirts), may be key visual, example > prese

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Remi P
+1 #49 remi

Re: Advice for Logo Contest Round 2

2012-01-24 Thread Doug Arthur
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:45 AM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > Before we do any more damage to the group with continual bashing of an > individual I would challenge the individual to provide more information. > > -- > Jonathan Campos +1 I look forward to seeing more information from such demeaning cla

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread superabe superabe
+1 #42 Love the logo, the font not so much. Would prefer to use a variation of this with the logo as is and a different and not so flexible font for the text.

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Jullierme Barros
+1 #49

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Arnoud Bos
On Jan 24, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Roland Zwaga wrote: > On 24 January 2012 17:29, David Buhler wrote: > >> I built a Flex website for the Federal government that was fully accessible >> (PCIP.gov). I did a demo for Adobe of the Accessibility capabilities. I'm >> glad to help with answering any acc

RE: [OT] - Apache critique

2012-01-24 Thread David Arno
> From: Roland Zwaga [mailto:rol...@stackandheap.com] > Sent: 24 January 2012 16:29 > > I'm definitely not trying to discredit Apache by posting this, by the way. > I'm deliriously happy with Flex being under Apache's wing :) That article isn't surprising, but I think that Flex is better off on A

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Doug McCluer
+1 #49

Re: [OT] - Apache critique

2012-01-24 Thread Roland Zwaga
On 24 January 2012 17:45, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > I've read that, and while it has some points the end of the post tells me > all I really need to know about his experience participating in ASF > projects. The end of that post makes the rest of his post highly > questionable as he in the end is co

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Frank Altomare
While on the topic of accessibility, does anyone know how this transfers over to a mobile environment? On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Frank Pepermans wrote: > Indeed :) > > Not very slightly off topic, I created a Spark component a while ago, > which utilizes pure Alchemy for all things relate

Re: [OT] - Apache critique

2012-01-24 Thread Omar Gonzalez
I've read that, and while it has some points the end of the post tells me all I really need to know about his experience participating in ASF projects. The end of that post makes the rest of his post highly questionable as he in the end is complaining about something being against a non existent Ap

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Frank Pepermans
Indeed :) Not very slightly off topic, I created a Spark component a while ago, which utilizes pure Alchemy for all things related to layout, performance is acceptable, and it can still be optimized much more by for example using tinyTLF. http://www.igindo.com/orgchart/index.html (click drag

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Roland Zwaga
On 24 January 2012 17:29, David Buhler wrote: > I built a Flex website for the Federal government that was fully accessible > (PCIP.gov). I did a demo for Adobe of the Accessibility capabilities. I'm > glad to help with answering any accessibility questions. > Hey David, thanks for chiming in :

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Frank Altomare
I agree, I think a specialized set of components would be a great place to start. And it definitely should subtract from any progress being made optimizing current ItemRenderers On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:29 AM, David Buhler wrote: > I built a Flex website for the Federal government that was full

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread David Buhler
I built a Flex website for the Federal government that was fully accessible (PCIP.gov). I did a demo for Adobe of the Accessibility capabilities. I'm glad to help with answering any accessibility questions. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Frank Pepermans wrote: > Would be good to know exactly w

[OT] - Apache critique

2012-01-24 Thread Roland Zwaga
This is quite a critical (negative) view of the Apache foundation: http://www.mikealrogers.com/posts/apache-considered-harmful.html I'm definitely not trying to discredit Apache by posting this, by the way. I'm deliriously happy with Flex being under Apache's wing :) -- regards, Roland -- Rola

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Roland Zwaga
> > Would be good to know exactly why Flex underperforms in areas such as item > renderers right now, > so much goes on when for example a grid is created and shown, that it is > hard to track down. > > i.e. having tandem of the Flex layout framework plus Starling would still > be slow, especially

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Yann Chevalier
+1 #49 -Yann Le 24 janv. 2012 à 00:37, Doug Arthur a écrit : > Hello thriving community! > > We have had a great Logo contest so far. There were a lot of votes, > and a lot of discussion. All of the submission were great, and we > truly appreciate the contribution of such great work. The PPMC

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Frank Pepermans
Would be good to know exactly why Flex underperforms in areas such as item renderers right now, so much goes on when for example a grid is created and shown, that it is hard to track down. i.e. having tandem of the Flex layout framework plus Starling would still be slow, especially the added c

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Quentin Le Hénaff
+1 #49 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Pierangelo Mancusi < pierangelo.manc...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 #49 > Il giorno 24/gen/2012 15:56, "Stephen Adams" ha > scritto: > > > +1 #49 > > > > On 24 January 2012 14:43, Antonio Olmo Titos wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 #49 > > > > > > -- > > > Antonio Ol

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Arnoud Bos
yup that would be awesome! Especially because Stage3D will be supported on mobile in the near future. I've seen demo's on tablets of that. So it might solve performance problems that we experience in flex for mobile now. So if Alex could ask Thibault if he can fix accessibility stuff for Stag

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Pierangelo Mancusi
+1 #49 Il giorno 24/gen/2012 15:56, "Stephen Adams" ha scritto: > +1 #49 > > On 24 January 2012 14:43, Antonio Olmo Titos wrote: > > > > > +1 #49 > > > > -- > > Antonio Olmo Titos, software engineer > > > > > > >

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2

2012-01-24 Thread Günter Dressel
#42 +1 - Original Message - > From: "Dirk Eismann" > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:47:05 AM > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Logo contest round #2 > > +1 #42 >

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2012-01-24 Thread Pierangelo Mancusi
hi giorgio, +1 to your post Il giorno 24/gen/2012 15:38, "Giorgio Natili" ha scritto: > Hi Mike, > > Just a quick note about your comment on your blog regarding this proposal, > you say: > > "Folks, I have had enough experience with forums and mailing lists to say, > whatever order you try and ac

Re: Pushing Flex components thorough the GPU

2012-01-24 Thread Frank Altomare
Alchemy seems so much in flux right now IMO it seems like we should wait on that. I do really like the idea of a Starling for UI, that could be pretty huge. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Andras Csizmadia wrote: > Thanks for your answer. Yes, i'd the same feeling. Mostly physics and > image pr

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