August 6, 2021 7:20 AM, "Michael Niedermayer" wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 11:28:19PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
>
>> On 8/4/2021 11:03 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>
>> * There is no public documentation on:
>> * Who owns the physical infra.
>>
>> its all donated one way or another
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 11:28:19PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> On 8/4/2021 11:03 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> >>
> >> * There is no public documentation on:
> >> * Who owns the physical infra.
> >
> > its all donated one way or another IIRC,
> > I am a bit hesitant to post a names wh
> -Original Message-
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> Michael Niedermayer
> Sent: Thursday, 5 August 2021 01:22
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> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Mailing List Delay
>
> On Wed, Aug 04, 202
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> > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Mailing List Delay
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 10:58:26PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 01:10:00AM +, Soft Works wrote:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > yes it looks like
On 8/4/2021 11:03 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>>
>> * There is no public documentation on:
>> * Who owns the physical infra.
>
> its all donated one way or another IIRC,
> I am a bit hesitant to post a names who provide the servers in public
> for the main server i think its all on the mai
August 4, 2021 11:17 AM, "Derek Buitenhuis" wrote:
> On 8/3/2021 11:59 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>
>> somehow this reads a bit offensive to me, iam not sure its meant to
>
> It's not meant as an attack towards you pesonally, but rather to point out
> the absurdity of the situation:
>
> *
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 04:17:53PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> On 8/3/2021 11:59 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > somehow this reads a bit offensive to me, iam not sure its meant to
>
> It's not meant as an attack towards you pesonally, but rather to point out
> the absurdity of the situati
On 8/4/2021 10:15 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> yes it looks like it is dnsbl & greylisting
> why am i not surprised it is sorbs ...
> anyway i removed sorbs from grossd i hope this wont add too much spam
> to the MLs and ML moderation ques
I will keep an eye out on my next set or two. It has s
> -Original Message-
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> Michael Niedermayer
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> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Mailing List Delay
>
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 a
Michael Niedermayer (12021-08-04):
> yes it looks like it is dnsbl & greylisting
Greylisting should whitelist known full mail servers, since they'll
retry later anyway.
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On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 10:58:26PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 01:10:00AM +, Soft Works wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Would you be able to take a look into the SMTP logs? I have attached an
> > image from the case that I recently analyzed. It is comparing two messages
On 8/4/2021 9:58 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> This is from february we have august, logs are not kept that long
The email I noted was delayed by 20ish minutes. It's why I revived this thread -
Nicolas noted I should next time it happened.
mbox is here:
https://patchwork.ffmpeg.org/project/ff
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 01:10:00AM +, Soft Works wrote:
[...]
> Would you be able to take a look into the SMTP logs? I have attached an image
> from the case that I recently analyzed. It is comparing two messages that
> were sent at the same time. The left message was received instantly but
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> > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Mailing List Delay
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 02, 2021 at 09:59:47PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> > > On 7/14/2021 8:05 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> > > > Therefore, the information we need now to debug is what
On 8/4/2021 12:17 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 8/3/2021 11:59 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
somehow this reads a bit offensive to me, iam not sure its meant to
It's not meant as an attack towards you pesonally, but rather to point out
the absurdity of the situation:
* There is no public do
On 8/3/2021 11:59 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> somehow this reads a bit offensive to me, iam not sure its meant to
It's not meant as an attack towards you pesonally, but rather to point out
the absurdity of the situation:
* There is no public documentation on:
* Who owns the physical infr
On Mon, Aug 02, 2021 at 09:59:47PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> On 7/14/2021 8:05 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> > Therefore, the information we need now to debug is what the logs of
> > ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu contains immediately after 20 Feb 2021 11:47:04
> > -0800.
> >
> > If it happens to you
August 2, 2021 5:57 PM, "Derek Buitenhuis" wrote:
> On 8/2/2021 10:48 PM, ffmpegandmahanstreamer@e.email wrote:
>
>> Have you checked the mailing list archives? Maybe its slow to get to others
>> but fast to get on the
>> ML.
>
> No, it is not. It's the same issue as we looked at above. I susp
Have you checked the mailing list archives? Maybe its slow to get to others but
fast to get on the ML.
Regardless, maybe its just a gmail problem. The multiple (non Gmail) providers
ive been using/have used all work even faster than gmail. I think Nicolas Lynne
and Niedermayer along with Kieran
On 8/2/2021 10:48 PM, ffmpegandmahanstreamer@e.email wrote:
> Have you checked the mailing list archives? Maybe its slow to get to others
> but fast to get on the ML.
No, it is not. It's the same issue as we looked at above. I suspect Soft Work
has
the correct interpretation of the issue.
> Reg
On 7/14/2021 8:05 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> Therefore, the information we need now to debug is what the logs of
> ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu contains immediately after 20 Feb 2021 11:47:04
> -0800.
>
> If it happens to you again, you can ask for the logs immediately, it will
> be more likely the adm
For what it's worth, I'm moving to e.email. I will see how the delay
dynamic works over there as well. So far it also seems like a good
option that I would recommend.
I do know that Yandex has a very long delay (if its even sent at all)
because I tried that and it didn't even get the confirmat
On 2021-07-14 14:55, Nicolas George wrote:
ffmpegandmahanstreamer@lolcow.email (12021-07-14):
I'm not against fixing the mailing list. No, not at all. It need to be
fixed. But Google is big company and trying to figure out how to make
their
mail deliver successfully might be a problem.
I thin
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 08:13:24PM +0100, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> On 7/14/2021 7:59 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Some spiders where attracted by gitwebs and got entangled in it
> > eventually the OOM killer freed them but in the blaze of holy
> > linux kernel OOM fire grossd and named also
> -Original Message-
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> Nicolas George
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 July 2021 21:05
> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches de...@ffmpeg.org>
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Mailing List Delay
>
> Derek Buitenhuis (12021-07
On 7/14/2021 8:05 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> If it happens to you again, you can ask for the logs immediately, it will
> be more likely the admins can find what went wrong.
Who is admin here who I would ask? Michael?
- Derek
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On 7/14/2021 7:59 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Some spiders where attracted by gitwebs and got entangled in it
> eventually the OOM killer freed them but in the blaze of holy
> linux kernel OOM fire grossd and named also where burnt
Are services not restarted automatically if they're killed?
Derek Buitenhuis (12021-07-14):
> Yeah, I know, but it seemed to be a good time to bring this up yet again.
> Sorry if that was unclear.
No problem. It is an important discussion, and now we are on the same
page.
> Looking at a set of 3 patches I sent with git-send-email that had this issues,
> t
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 04:47:49PM +0530, Gyan Doshi wrote:
> Is there an issue with the mailing list over the past couple of days?
> I've just received multiple messages over 12 hours old.
Some spiders where attracted by gitwebs and got entangled in it
eventually the OOM killer freed them but in
ffmpegandmahanstreamer@lolcow.email (12021-07-14):
> I'm not against fixing the mailing list. No, not at all. It need to be
> fixed. But Google is big company and trying to figure out how to make their
> mail deliver successfully might be a problem.
>
> I think this was the reasoning behind alot o
On 2021-07-14 09:43, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/14/2021 2:35 PM, ffmpegandmahanstreamer@lolcow.email wrote:
I have been bringing this up consstently for years, and been told
it's
a "non-issue", but it is incredibly annoying.
I am not sure if it's due to Google having issues (trust?) sending
On 2021-07-14 09:17, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/14/2021 12:27 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
Looking at the headers, it looks like the delay happens at Google
before
the mail arrives to the mailing-list.
Yours arrived quickly. Mine will too, I guess.
Sending from GMail, I have had anywhere from
On 7/14/2021 2:41 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> These were sent as a single chain all at once, via git-send-email, but the
> received tim are wildly different.
Apologies, ignore the third link - it was a 2 patch set. My mistake.
The first two are enough to demonstrate the issue though.
- Derek
On 7/14/2021 2:35 PM, ffmpegandmahanstreamer@lolcow.email wrote:
>> I have been bringing this up consstently for years, and been told it's
>> a "non-issue", but it is incredibly annoying.
>>
>> I am not sure if it's due to Google having issues (trust?) sending to
>> out host, or the host having tro
On 7/14/2021 2:24 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> The issue we discussed here only happened since yesterday, and
> apparently stopped happening.
>
> So it's not the same issue.
Yeah, I know, but it seemed to be a good time to bring this up yet again.
Sorry if that was unclear.
>> I am not sure if it
On 7/14/2021 10:17 AM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/14/2021 12:27 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
Looking at the headers, it looks like the delay happens at Google before
the mail arrives to the mailing-list.
Yours arrived quickly. Mine will too, I guess.
Sending from GMail, I have had anywhere fro
Derek Buitenhuis (12021-07-14):
> Sending from GMail, I have had anywhere from instantly, to 1.5 hours delay
> ever since moving to the "new" (Hungarian?) mailing list host. Especially
> when sending via git-send-email.
>
> I have been bringing this up consstently for years, and been told it's
> a
On 7/14/2021 12:27 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> Looking at the headers, it looks like the delay happens at Google before
> the mail arrives to the mailing-list.
>
> Yours arrived quickly. Mine will too, I guess.
Sending from GMail, I have had anywhere from instantly, to 1.5 hours delay
ever since
Gyan Doshi (12021-07-14):
> Is there an issue with the mailing list over the past couple of days?
> I've just received multiple messages over 12 hours old.
Looking at the headers, it looks like the delay happens at Google before
the mail arrives to the mailing-list.
Yours arrived quickly. Mine wi
Is there an issue with the mailing list over the past couple of days?
I've just received multiple messages over 12 hours old.
And there have been no new messages in ffmpeg-user since the 12th,
although that list is low traffic anyway.
Gyan
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