On 2021-07-14 09:17, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/14/2021 12:27 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
Looking at the headers, it looks like the delay happens at Google before
the mail arrives to the mailing-list.

Yours arrived quickly. Mine will too, I guess.

Sending from GMail, I have had anywhere from instantly, to 1.5 hours delay ever since moving to the "new" (Hungarian?) mailing list host. Especially
when sending via git-send-email.


Oh, that's strange. All my emails always send instantly. Even when i was on cock.li which wasn't very reliable (read below).

I have been bringing this up consstently for years, and been told it's
a "non-issue", but it is incredibly annoying.

I am not sure if it's due to Google having issues (trust?) sending to
out host, or the host having trouble receiving.

That's why i use this email provider and not my main Gmail for mailing lists.

I used to use cock.li but they shut down signups. Plus the one i'm using (lolcow.email) has a nice threading interface on the web. I have a special email for every mailing list im in (FFmpeg, llvm, qemu, gstreamer, freebsd/linux etc..). The nice thing is that you can put them in the Gmail or Apple/Android mail app on your phone for easy reading. And it also helps stop SPAM mails which i have gotten by posting on mailing lists.

It may be a good stopgap solution for some.

I have also noticed, since switching to this 'new' mysertious mailing
list host a few years back that a chunk of ffmpeg-devel traffic gets
filed into spam consistently. Also very annoying - I have missed several
patches this way. This is not specific to GMail, for me, so far.


That's because mail from "unknown" hosts might get into spam frequently. You may have to explicitly whitelist the mailing list in your settings.

If it's a trust thing, sure, we can blame Google or whoever, but I think
we should have a less cruddy experience for users of the largest email
provider in the world, by default, rather just shrugging and saying "sucks
to be you, don't use GMail".

- Derek
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