On 2021-07-14 09:43, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
On 7/14/2021 2:35 PM, ffmpegandmahanstreamer@lolcow.email wrote:
I have been bringing this up consstently for years, and been told it's
a "non-issue", but it is incredibly annoying.

I am not sure if it's due to Google having issues (trust?) sending to
out host, or the host having trouble receiving.

That's why i use this email provider and not my main Gmail for mailing
lists.

Saying "don't use the largest email provider in the world because our
list is janky" isn't a goo solution.

I'm not against fixing the mailing list. No, not at all. It need to be fixed. But Google is big company and trying to figure out how to make their mail deliver successfully might be a problem.

I think this was the reasoning behind alot of the major open source projects switching to Nongnu.org and Google Groups along with Github discussions. IIRC even the Alliance of Open Media has their patch mailing list on Groups.io and Google Groups now. But I'm not saying FFMPEG should. Just saying that other projects have been facing similar issues and fixed it by moving to a large mailing list hub. And libvpx uses Google mail servers for their patches as well.

At the very least though, a mailign list manager with the ability to send posts via the web could also be useful. This i what Python does:
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-...@python.org/


It may be a good stopgap solution for some.

I have also noticed, since switching to this 'new' mysertious mailing
list host a few years back that a chunk of ffmpeg-devel traffic gets
filed into spam consistently. Also very annoying - I have missed
several
patches this way. This is not specific to GMail, for me, so far.


That's because mail from "unknown" hosts might get into spam frequently. You may have to explicitly whitelist the mailing list in your settings.

Also not really an acceptable solution to tell every single person this,
in my opinion.

You can have a banner on the mailing list subscribe page to whitelist the domain along with instructions maybe?
- Derek
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