Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-09-01 Thread compn
On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 13:03:44 -0500 shen long wrote: > Take it easy man, I'm just stating facts and similing while I type. > And we're talking about the future development. I love anarchy and > proper forks, libav is not one of them. I don't mind being banned for > saying this though. the ml admin

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-09-01 Thread shen long
Take it easy man, I'm just stating facts and similing while I type. And we're talking about the future development. I love anarchy and proper forks, libav is not one of them. I don't mind being banned for saying this though. Maybe we all should blame Debian instead, the grandmother of distros has

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-09-01 Thread Ganesh Ajjanagadde
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:38 AM, shen long wrote: > I'm sorry to bother you, but that's not how I see it. In fact this is > the output of the fffmpeg binary I was using for about a year and a > half. > > -- > # ffmpeg > ffmpeg version 0.8.6-4:0.8.6-0ubuntu0.12.04.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2013

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-09-01 Thread shen long
I'm sorry to bother you, but that's not how I see it. In fact this is the output of the fffmpeg binary I was using for about a year and a half. -- # ffmpeg ffmpeg version 0.8.6-4:0.8.6-0ubuntu0.12.04.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the Libav developers built on Apr 2 2013 17:00:59 with gcc 4

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-09-01 Thread wm4
On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:11:14 -0500 shen long wrote: > This discussion again hehe. I'm just a user and I don't think a > reunification is possible, I was reading the gentoo forums and it If you think that, keep it to yourself. What the hell do you think we're trying to do? The split development i

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-09-01 Thread Ganesh Ajjanagadde
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:11 AM, shen long wrote: > This discussion again hehe. I'm just a user and I don't think a > reunification is possible, I was reading the gentoo forums and it > became a flame war between users, most of them bashing Libav. Though I > like the name "libav" better. > > https:

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-09-01 Thread shen long
This discussion again hehe. I'm just a user and I don't think a reunification is possible, I was reading the gentoo forums and it became a flame war between users, most of them bashing Libav. Though I like the name "libav" better. https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1010096.html The way Libav s

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-09-01 Thread wm4
On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 07:50:15 + (UTC) Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > wm4 googlemail.com> writes: > > > Oh yes, politically Libav wasn't successful. > > Just to make sure I don't misunderstand you: Oh come on, you misunderstand intentionally anyway. Or does Hanlon's razor come into effect? I re

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-09-01 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
wm4 googlemail.com> writes: > Oh yes, politically Libav wasn't successful. Just to make sure I don't misunderstand you: Gentoo and Debian did not switch from avconv to FFmpeg for technical reasons, but only for political reasons? And, consequently, the changes from FFmpeg to avconv were purel

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-31 Thread Nicolas George
Le quartidi 14 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Ronald S. Bultje a écrit : > We're about to add FF_QSCALE_TYPE_MPEG1 to libavutil, and it's part of our > intra-library ABI so we can't change it unless we bump majors, even though > it's in internal.h. I mostly agree to the general stance of this discussion a

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-31 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
wm4 googlemail.com> writes: > Or maybe you just don't know better. Certainly true for both of us... Carl Eugen ___ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-31 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 8/31/15, wm4 wrote: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:49:19 + (UTC) > Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > >> Ronald S. Bultje gmail.com> writes: >> >> [...] >> >> If this were all true, why don't you fork FFmpeg >> and show us how it's done better? > > Don't even go there. > >> Seriously: No matter which fa

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-31 Thread wm4
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:02:57 + (UTC) Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > Ronald S. Bultje gmail.com> writes: > > > The academic argument for clean code is that it > > speeds up development. > > But isn't the deeper issue that this wasn't true > for FFmpeg five years ago and still isn't? > (Or in o

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-31 Thread wm4
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:49:19 + (UTC) Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > Ronald S. Bultje gmail.com> writes: > > [...] > > If this were all true, why don't you fork FFmpeg > and show us how it's done better? Don't even go there. > Seriously: No matter which fair I visit, the users > always tell

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-31 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
Ronald S. Bultje gmail.com> writes: > The academic argument for clean code is that it > speeds up development. But isn't the deeper issue that this wasn't true for FFmpeg five years ago and still isn't? (Or in other words: That this was always an "academic" argument...) Maybe because you did

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-31 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > Ronald S. Bultje gmail.com> writes: > > > I really don't understand why we don't spend > > > the time fixing real (user-reported) issues > > > instead of discussing how "clean" an api can > > > be... > > > > Because the two are not

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-31 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
Ronald S. Bultje gmail.com> writes: > > If this were all true, why don't you fork FFmpeg > > and show us how it's done better? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum Sorry, I thought you would understand the joke (and that this was no argument) without any tags. (Particularly

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-31 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > Ronald S. Bultje gmail.com> writes: > > [...] > > If this were all true, why don't you fork FFmpeg > and show us how it's done better? > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum Seriously: No matter which fair I visit, t

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-31 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 8/31/15, Carl Eugen Hoyos wrote: > Ronald S. Bultje gmail.com> writes: > > [...] > > If this were all true, why don't you fork FFmpeg > and show us how it's done better? > > Seriously: No matter which fair I visit, the users > always tell the same story. They liked avconv > because it promised

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-31 Thread Carl Eugen Hoyos
Ronald S. Bultje gmail.com> writes: [...] If this were all true, why don't you fork FFmpeg and show us how it's done better? Seriously: No matter which fair I visit, the users always tell the same story. They liked avconv because it promised so many things that could be improved in FFmpeg a

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-31 Thread wm4
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:11:38 -0400 "Ronald S. Bultje" wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Michael Niedermayer < > mich...@niedermayer.cc> wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 08:53:37PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:23 PM,

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-31 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi Michael, On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Michael Niedermayer < mich...@niedermayer.cc> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 08:53:37PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Michael Niedermayer > > wrote: > > > > > From: Michael Niedermayer > > > > > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-30 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 08:53:37PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Michael Niedermayer > wrote: > > > From: Michael Niedermayer > > > > This is needed for vf_mcfps, no codec related structs are part of the > > public interface > > > > Signed-off-by: Mi

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-30 Thread Ronald S. Bultje
Hi, On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > From: Michael Niedermayer > > This is needed for vf_mcfps, no codec related structs are part of the > public interface > > Signed-off-by: Michael Niedermayer > --- > libavcodec/Makefile |2 +- > libavcodec/avme.c |

[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec: Add interface to motion estimation

2015-08-29 Thread Michael Niedermayer
From: Michael Niedermayer This is needed for vf_mcfps, no codec related structs are part of the public interface Signed-off-by: Michael Niedermayer --- libavcodec/Makefile |2 +- libavcodec/avme.c | 138 + libavcodec/avme.h | 30