On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 23:03 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Have you ever read "Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy"?
So I'm not the only one :).
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On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 22:43 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote:
> what you're saying is a honestly a bit unfair, lists decommission has
> been communicated multiple times over the past few months
Hi,
a lot of Evolution users don't use GNOME or any other DE at all.
“There’s no point in acting surprised abo
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 23:10 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> No, there's no headers like that. I was wondering if there is some
> logic somewhere that parses the subject for keywords like
> "Announcement:"!
>
> Thanks for your thoughts on it.
>
> P.
Only thing I can think of is maybe your using IMAP a
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 14:57 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 19:29 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > I had assumed it would be something like that. But what is the header
> > that controls it
>
> I believe that checkbox adds this email header:
>
> Importance: high
No, there's no hea
>
> what you're saying is a honestly a bit unfair, lists decommission has
> been communicated multiple times over the past few months, see [1]
> and [2],
Communicated to whom?
Have you ever read "Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy"?
One glaring omission in [1] and [2] is *this* *list*. Are you ex
Steve Litt said on Thu, 08 Sep 2022 07:31:12 -0400
I'm taking the abnormal step of top-posting because the old material is
for reference only; I'm not referring to any specific material in the
prior post...
While we still have a mailing list let me tell you what I've discovered
about the intermit
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 22:44 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote:
> And it seems I forgot both [1] and [2], there you go.
>
> [1]
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-August/msg4.html
> [2]
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html
>
> On Thu,
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 19:10 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> >
> > I am a moderator of the Evolution list, and this is the first I've
> > heard of this. I think that 10 days notice of such a radical change
> > is
> > not reasonable. Most people here, including myself, will have no
> > idea
> > what this
Dnia 20.10.2022 o godz. 22:58:33 Andrea Veri pisze:
> category, you can send an email to the applicati...@discourse.gnome.org
> email and it gets automatically posted to Discourse, like you do today with
> Mailman. In the background we can configure an automatic tag, that is
> whenever the Evolutio
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 3:58 PM Andrea Veri wrote:
> Greg,
>
> nobody is requiring you to use a web forum, the only time where you need
> to use it is the first time where you'd be configuring the tag you want to
> watch, in this case the evolution one. Once that has happened you'll get
> all the
Dnia 20.10.2022 o godz. 22:43:11 Andrea Veri pisze:
> But please, very please, let's just stop complaining for the sake of doing
> so and without having even tried using the new tool.
They say, "the better is an enemy of the good"...
Or in other words, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"...
--
Reg
Greg,
nobody is requiring you to use a web forum, the only time where you need to
use it is the first time where you'd be configuring the tag you want to
watch, in this case the evolution one. Once that has happened you'll get
all the notifications sent via mail and you'll be able to respond direc
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 13:23 -0500, Tim McConnell wrote:
>
> "even if some Evo users willingly choose to use Redhat." durn
> Sadomasochists.
Tim, this is uncalled for. Please take trolling somewhere else.
> But all joking aside, they're (GNOME) really end this list? Oh WTFF??
> I've been using t
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 3:45 PM Andrea Veri wrote:
> And it seems I forgot both [1] and [2], there you go.
>
> [1]
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-August/msg4.html
> [2]
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html
>
I have to ag
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 18:39 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> If so, then the GNOME project should stop providing an email client at
> all.
Errm, no. Just because people want to do something doesn't mean "GNOME"
(whatever that means exactly) needs to do the same something.
There were GNOME applications
And it seems I forgot both [1] and [2], there you go.
[1]
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-August/msg4.html
[2]
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 10:43 PM Andrea Veri wrote:
> Pete,
>
> what you're
Pete,
what you're saying is a honestly a bit unfair, lists decommission has been
communicated multiple times over the past few months, see [1] and [2], but
what's even more discouraging is seeing users on your list mentioning we're
switching to *Discord*, or others not even understanding Discourse
What a short-sighted decision.
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 13:09 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote:
> Mailing list subscribers are invited to migrate to GNOME's Discourse
> instance [1].
Discourse is an awful way to deal with thing long-term discussions
which are often a feature of things here.
This is very di
Matt Connell said on Thu, 20 Oct 2022 12:33:56 -0400
>On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 11:38 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>> Could somebody with space, bandwidth and tech knowledge please set
>> up an Evolution mailing list that has nothing with Gnome? I know
>> that a $100/year account with Futurequest.com give
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 19:29 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> I had assumed it would be something like that. But what is the header
> that controls it
I believe that checkbox adds this email header:
Importance: high
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On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 14:21 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 19:17 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > That announcement email seems to have been automatically tagged as
> > "important" on my systems (Evo 3.44.4). I've noticed it happening
> > before but largely ignored it. What is doing
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 12:27 -0400, Jim Popovitch via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 16:40 +0200, Torsten Krah via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, dem 20.10.2022 um 13:01 +0100 schrieb Patrick
> > O'Callaghan:
> > > I am a moderator of the Evolution list, and this is the fi
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 19:17 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> That announcement email seems to have been automatically tagged as
> "important" on my systems (Evo 3.44.4). I've noticed it happening
> before but largely ignored it. What is doing it? Is it a general
> "feature" of something in Evolution or
While I can still ask the list ...
That announcement email seems to have been automatically tagged as
"important" on my systems (Evo 3.44.4). I've noticed it happening
before but largely ignored it. What is doing it? Is it a general
"feature" of something in Evolution or is it something I've set
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 11:38 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> If not, could you at least set up an IRC channel for Evolution on libera.chat?
No, because an IRC channel on GIMPnet IRC called #evolution has already
existed for decades and has been part of the user documentation for at
least a decade. No ne
>
> I am a moderator of the Evolution list, and this is the first I've
> heard of this. I think that 10 days notice of such a radical change is
> not reasonable. Most people here, including myself, will have no idea
> what this is about.
poc - as a moderator of the list, do you see the "major bur
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 12:47 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
>
>
> If this is real, then the "communicating" has been sadly lacking. This
> is the first I've heard of it.
Just for the records, mailing list resources (as linking to the related
threads on Discourse would probably be a bit too ironic):
*
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 11:38 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> They suggest I use discourse and will (somehow) give me tags to use
> it. I tried discourse once: It's inscrutable. I have no idea how to
> use tags.
Receiving notifications about Evolution related threads in Discourse:
1. Go to Notificatio
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 12:27 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > https://mail.gnome.org/
> >
> > There is no sign that they are going to retire this at all (if I am
> > not
> > mistaken and missed it).
>
> Further to that point, down at the bottom of that page is a link for
> "Who should I contact if
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 12:27 -0400, Jim Popovitch via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 16:40 +0200, Torsten Krah via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, dem 20.10.2022 um 13:01 +0100 schrieb Patrick
> > O'Callaghan:
> > > I am a moderator of the Evolution list, and this is the
Hi,
an email client community needs a mailing list, not a WhatsApp group or
a forum or an IRC channel.
Evolution is an email client, but emails aren't good enough for
communication related to the email client?
If so, then the GNOME project should stop providing an email client at
all.
The end o
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 11:38 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Could somebody with space, bandwidth and tech knowledge please set up an
> Evolution
> mailing list that has nothing with Gnome? I know that a $100/year account with
> Futurequest.com gives you a rudimentary mailing list: I'm not sure how well
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 12:47 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> If this is real, then the "communicating" has been sadly lacking. This
> is the first I've heard of it.
>
>
> I'm sorry, but I find "Forum" type things, which I believe is what
> Discourse is, not at all intuitive and I hate dealing with them
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 16:40 +0200, Torsten Krah via evolution-list
wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, dem 20.10.2022 um 13:01 +0100 schrieb Patrick
> O'Callaghan:
> > I am a moderator of the Evolution list, and this is the first I've
> >
> > heard of this.
>
> Me too and if you have a look at the top level
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 11:38 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> If we don't all find an alternate way to communicate with each other
> during October,
> many of us will be unable to use discourse (does it depend on systemd
> or pulseaudio,
> for instance, because I don't have those, don't want them, and I'm
Hi all,
I just received the dreaded message that this mailing list will vanish at the
end of
October 2022. They blame it on python2 deprecation and "major burden in
managing lists spam", which sounds like the hollowest ever excuse to me. Nobody
else
is dropping their mailing lists because of pyt
Am Donnerstag, dem 20.10.2022 um 13:01 +0100 schrieb Patrick
O'Callaghan:
> I am a moderator of the Evolution list, and this is the first I've
>
> heard of this.
Me too and if you have a look at the top level site:
https://mail.gnome.org/
There is no sign that they are going to retire this at a
> This unrequested change makes me sceptical about the
> >
> > community's future.
>
> Second that - discourse is not my cup of tea - I hope there will be
> an
> alternative list eventually.
>
Adding my negs on discourse and support for a new email venue
in case it might help.
George Reeke
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 13:01 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> If there is a well-supported mailing list alternative, I will use
> that.
Hi,
I cannot speak of the "well-supported" side of the thing, I only know
of two public places.
One is:
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/
Am Donnerstag, dem 20.10.2022 um 13:01 +0100 schrieb Patrick
O'Callaghan:
> This unrequested change makes me sceptical about the
>
> community's future.
Second that - discourse is not my cup of tea - I hope there will be an
alternative list eventually.
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On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 12:47 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> If this is real, then the "communicating" has been sadly lacking.
> This is the first I've heard of it.
I've been seeing these communications on other lists for quite some
time.
> 20 years of helping the Evolution community and it looks like
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 13:09 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's
> Mailman
> platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major burden
> in
> managing lists spam). The deadline is currently set to the end of
> October
> 2022
>
> As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's
> Mailman platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major
> burden in managing lists spam). The deadline is currently set to the
> end of October 2022. Mailing list subscribers are invited to migrate
> to GNOME's Dis
Hi,
As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's Mailman
platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major burden in
managing lists spam). The deadline is currently set to the end of October
2022. Mailing list subscribers are invited to migrate to GNOME's Discourse
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