On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 3:58 PM Andrea Veri <a...@gnome.org> wrote: > Greg, > > nobody is requiring you to use a web forum, the only time where you need > to use it is the first time where you'd be configuring the tag you want to > watch, in this case the evolution one. Once that has happened you'll get > all the notifications sent via mail and you'll be able to respond directly > from within your mail client like you do today, for anyone not familiar > with the tagging process: > > Tagging means adding a tag to a specific thread that is created to make > sure it can easily be filtered out and most importantly it can easily be > configured as a watcher (i.e the process that allows you to receive an > email when a new email / response has been added to a thread). Our > Discourse instance already has a tag called "evolution", which can be used > to tag a specific thread at creation time (or later on in the process) to > make sure it gets properly filtered for contributors that are only > interested in mc conversations. Each Discourse category comes with an email > endpoint, let's say you want to create a new thread under the Applications > category, you can send an email to the applicati...@discourse.gnome.org > email and it gets automatically posted to Discourse, like you do today with > Mailman. In the background we can configure an automatic tag, that is > whenever the Evolution or Evo (or anything you prefer) word is mentioned > (similar to what happens today with Mailman list name tag on subjects) the > "evolution" tag is automatically added to your thread, that eases > consumption by your contributors which have watchers defined for the > "evolution" tag. > > I'm more than happy to work with you guys to ease this transition. But > please keep in mind that nobody is forcing you to use a web forum, > Discourse (NOT Discord) can also work as a plain mailing list (please see > Andre's mail [1] around this), so don't be alarmed. >
OK, so scripting something to add the existing mail list users to Discourse should be fairly simple, so none of us are required to go sign up, etc elsewhere right? I am a good scripter and would be willing to help with that, but if I am forced to go sign up on some other web site, I think I would just ditch it all. Just let me know. > Thanks, > > [1] > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2022-October/msg00144.html > > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 10:51 PM Greg Oliver <oliver.g...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 3:45 PM Andrea Veri <a...@gnome.org> wrote: >> >>> And it seems I forgot both [1] and [2], there you go. >>> >>> [1] >>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-August/msg00004.html >>> [2] >>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html >>> >> >> I have to agree with Pete - there were no notifications to this list >> until {to|yester}day... Also in agreement - I will no visit an web forum. >> Been using Evo as far as I can remember running Linux - early 2k - hate to >> drop this off my mailing lists.. I am on a huge amount of lists because >> like it has been mentioned, they are easy to peruse.. Make me go to a web >> page, which then has topics with sub-topics, etc and you will lose me (even >> if I am unimportant to the project). >> >> -Greg >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 10:43 PM Andrea Veri <a...@gnome.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Pete, >>>> >>>> what you're saying is a honestly a bit unfair, lists decommission has >>>> been communicated multiple times over the past few months, see [1] and [2], >>>> but what's even more discouraging is seeing users on your list mentioning >>>> we're switching to *Discord*, or others not even understanding Discourse >>>> has the same mailing list workflow that you have today but has some sugar >>>> added on top for people who like web forums and other features Discourse >>>> provides. I'm not forcing you to remain, but I'd appreciate you trying to >>>> recreate your workflow in Discourse: that is totally possible and I can >>>> work with you and any other stakeholder to make sure that happens. >>>> >>>> There's a subset of lists (the l10n ones) which have requested an >>>> exception from October's deadline, we can surely offer that in case you >>>> want some more time in order to migrate somewhere else or just give >>>> Discourse a try. But please, very please, let's just stop complaining for >>>> the sake of doing so and without having even tried using the new tool. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 8:24 PM Pete Biggs <p...@biggs.org.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Andrea - >>>>> >>>>> I hope you are following the Evolution list. You certainly haven't >>>>> been "communicating" anything to the Evolution list about this until >>>>> now and it is the first that most people know about it. >>>>> >>>>> It's really disappointing to see you close down a mailing list that has >>>>> been active and useful for 20 years with just a few days notice. That's >>>>> not really good "community engagement". >>>>> >>>>> It seems really bizarre that you are getting rid of a mailing list for >>>>> a mail client. >>>>> >>>>> I know the attitude will be "tough, they'll get over it", but it's not >>>>> going to win over the hearts and minds of your constituency. >>>>> >>>>> Pete >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 13:09 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote: >>>>> > Hi, >>>>> > >>>>> > As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's >>>>> > Mailman platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major >>>>> > burden in managing lists spam). The deadline is currently set to the >>>>> > end of October 2022. Mailing list subscribers are invited to migrate >>>>> > to GNOME's Discourse instance [1]. Neil made sure [2] to create a set >>>>> > of tags you can re-use to initiate a new topic in the new platform, >>>>> > if a tag is missing please reach out to me directly. >>>>> > >>>>> > Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions you can >>>>> > follow [3] in order to safely migrate your reading workflow to >>>>> > Discourse. The new platform supports several login methods including >>>>> > your GNOME Account and other major OpenID providers. >>>>> > >>>>> > After the deadline of the end of October Mailman archives will remain >>>>> > alive in read only mode for posterity. If the mailing list was used >>>>> > behind an alias, please let me know so we can re-do the same setup >>>>> > but on Discourse instead. >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks, >>>>> > >>>>> > P.S All the l10n lists are still pending code changes in damned-lies, >>>>> > the deadline to decommission those lists may slip by a week or two >>>>> > depending how soon those changes will be made available in DL >>>>> > codebase >>>>> > >>>>> > [1] https://discourse.gnome.org >>>>> > [2] >>>>> > >>>>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg >>>>> > 00018.html >>>>> > [3] >>>>> > >>>>> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discours >>>>> > e/11534/5 >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > evolution-list mailing list >>>>> > evolution-list@gnome.org >>>>> > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... >>>>> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Andrea >>>> >>>> Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat, >>>> GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator, >>>> Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary, >>>> GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman >>>> >>>> Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Andrea >>> >>> Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat, >>> GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator, >>> Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary, >>> GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman >>> >>> Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it >>> _______________________________________________ >>> evolution-list mailing list >>> evolution-list@gnome.org >>> To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list >>> >> > > -- > Cheers, > Andrea > > Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat, > GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator, > Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary, > GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman > > Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it >
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