Re: [EVDL] Right to Repair Tesla vs Aptera

2023-09-23 Thread David Heacock via EV
Thanks for the great idea, I sometimes don't think of the simple approach.  I will just place the link in a short note and if someone is interested they can use the link.  Maybe it will result in more discussions in both directions.   Ambassador is just a term for an unpaid fan of Aptera who has

Re: [EVDL] Right to Repair Tesla vs Aptera

2023-09-21 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 21 Sep 2023 at 3:13, David Heacock via EV wrote: > being an Ambassador for Aptera I was wondering if anyone would object > to sharing this information with Aptera and other Ambassadors? I expect that if someone who's posted doesn't want to be quoted, he'll let you know, and you'll respect th

Re: [EVDL] Right to Repair Tesla vs Aptera

2023-09-21 Thread David Heacock via EV
I should probably clarify what I meant by early Apple computers.  I knew about those computers before the Mac 128, 512 and the SE and not being a computer person I didn't figure I was going to try to use the earlier ones for a business purpose.  However, when the Mac 128 came along I bought one

Re: [EVDL] Right to Repair Tesla vs Aptera

2023-09-20 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
I've noticed there are 2 camps: One side who views a car as an appliance to get from A to B, and the other side who is either an enthusiast, and/or views cars as status symbols. My father is in the first camp. I'm somewhere in the middle, but I love technology and engineering. My father buys ba

Re: [EVDL] Right to Repair Tesla vs Aptera

2023-09-20 Thread Lee Hart via EV
David Heacock via EV wrote: ...Tesla seems to think they own the vehicle even after they sell it to the customer. ...a lot of talk about customer right to repair [but then block their ability to do so] It isn't just Tesla. All manufacturers are doing it. This just illustrates the tactics of

Re: [EVDL] Right to Repair Tesla vs Aptera

2023-09-20 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 20 Sep 2023 at 13:37, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > In my opinion, EVs, and cars in general, have way too many features. Opionion here also, but I agree 100%. While our Zoe was being repaired from a rear-end accident, I rented a Dacia Spring, Europe's cheapest EV (around 22k Euro before subs

Re: [EVDL] Right to Repair Tesla vs Aptera

2023-09-20 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" Cc: "EV@TucsonEV" Sent: 19-Sep-23 14:21:30 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Right to Repair Tesla vs Aptera -Original Message----- From: EV On Behalf Of David Heacock via EV Subject: [EVDL] Right to Repair Tesla vs Aptera I guess some people are

Re: [EVDL] Right to Repair Tesla vs Aptera

2023-09-19 Thread EV@TucsonEV via EV
> -Original Message- > From: EV On Behalf Of David Heacock via EV > Subject: [EVDL] Right to Repair Tesla vs Aptera > > I guess some people are making money on > teaching Tesla owners how to get the most out of their vehicles. Really? > That's the biggest

[EVDL] Right to Repair Tesla vs Aptera

2023-09-19 Thread David Heacock via EV
Seems like there are discussions on who actually owns a Tesla and it reminded me of something Jack Rickard of EVTV said may years ago and he was a big Tesla fan.  I think it was something to the effect that Tesla seems to think they own the vehicle even after they sell it to the customer.  If I