On 20 Sep 2023 at 13:37, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > In my opinion, EVs, and cars in general, have way too many features.
Opionion here also, but I agree 100%. While our Zoe was being repaired from a rear-end accident, I rented a Dacia Spring, Europe's cheapest EV (around 22k Euro before subsidies). It was a bit underpowered and noisy, not very comfortable, and had about half the range, but in some ways I liked it better than the Zoe. One of the reasons was its relative lack of pointless gimmicks. It had no beeps, boops, and musical chords; a real physical key to unlock and start it; no annoying automatic locking; and glory be, a real mechanical handbrake lever between the front seats - I despise the now ubiquitous electric-servo parking brakes. > All I really want is the necessary gages on the dash, radio, clock, > and HVAC. The rest can be done on the phone. Here, I'm not so much in agreement. I don't want my entire life, or even my driving, anchored to a mobile phone, especially with the dismal privacy values that go with phones. Give me knobs and/or levers to control the HVAC, headlights, wipers, cruise, the usual. Put as much as possible on the steering wheel or column to minimize the time I have to look away from the road. Touch screens, be they part of the car or on a mobile phone, are way too distracting. A lot can happen in the longer time it sometimes takes to use a touch screen in a car. > Don't need entertainment systems and all the other "useful" > features. Mixed views here. I kind of like being able to play audio from a USB stick, and there are a couple of radio stations around here that I kind of like. Don't need or want a built-in satnav though. I have Garmin for that, and it doesn't share my data. > Ok, I'll include window and door lock controls and other obvious and > dedicated systems. Again, I much prefer real mechanical switches - or at least simulations of them - for these. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = We have lived our lives by the assumption that what was good for us would be good for the world. We must change our lives so that it will be possible to live by the contrary assumption, that what is good for the world will be good for us. -- Wendell Berry = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/