[PSES] Fwd: Rating Label Nomenclature

2025-04-09 Thread Brian Kunde
I am reading through IEC 61293:2020 and comparing it to what some of the Product Standards say and examples on the Web regarding the Voltage Rating that would go on a Nameplate or Label. I am really struggling with 3 phase voltage ratings. Industrial machines show this information as a table, but

Re: [PSES] Fwd: Rating Label Nomenclature

2025-04-09 Thread IBM Ken
Hi Brian; I struggled a bit with this as well. I don't like using "3~400V" because (even with a space) it could be misinterpreted as "three to 400 volts" ridiculous as that may be... For "Three phase with neutral" I did not want to use any (English) text as our product is shipped worldwide. I se

Re: [PSES] Fwd: Rating Label Nomenclature

2025-04-09 Thread John Woodgate
Hi, Brian. You don't say whether the product is for Europe or the Americas, or elsewhere. By the voltages, It's Europe, but it's best to be clear.  In principle, the Product Standard is definitive, so what does it say? I have never seen the PE mentioned in this context, and it's best to keep th

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Re: [PSES] Fwd: Rating Label Nomenclature

2025-04-09 Thread Boštjan Glavič
Hi Brian, Below is an extract from table F.2 of IEC 62368-1. Maybe it helps. Best regards, Bostjan [cid:image001.png@01DBA99F.83F94FD0] From: John Woodgate Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 10:13 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Fwd: Rating Label Nomenclature CAUTION: This e

Re: [PSES] Fwd: Rating Label Nomenclature

2025-04-09 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Brian — Good thing to be paying close attention to! We did something similar to what Ken describes. I really like the ~ sign, because “AC” is not universally accepted; it’s “CA” in Spanish, for example. I encouraged its use on single phase products for international markets. I seem to rec

Re: [PSES] Rating Label Nomenclature

2025-04-09 Thread Douglas Nix
Hi Brian, This is correct: > On Apr 9, 2025, at 15:55, Brian Kunde wrote: > > Single Phase = 230V~ > Three Phase = 400V 3~ You can indicate the wiring requirements like this: 3P+N+PE for 3 poles + Neutral + PE for a TN-S Y system 3P+PE for 3 poles + PE for a TN-S Δ connected system If you w

Re: [PSES] Fwd: Rating Label Nomenclature

2025-04-09 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
230/400V 3~ is nominal voltage for the EU and widely used in low-voltage distribution, and the USA uses 277/480V common in industrial, and 120/208V for commercial. Ralph From: John Woodgate Sent: April 9, 2025 1:13 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Fwd: Rating Label No

Re: [PSES] Fwd: Rating Label Nomenclature

2025-04-09 Thread Bansi Patel
277/480 V in L-N/L-L (phase to neutral / phase to phase). It could be single phase or three phase. Best Regards and Be Safe Bansi Patel BRP Consultants IEEE PSES Emeritus (2025-2027) IEEE PSES, Board of Governors-at Large (2018-2023, 2025-2027) IEEE PSES San Dirgo Chapter Chair 2020-2025