Re: [emacs-tangents] [External] : Emacs website, Lisp, and other
* Drew Adams [2024-10-23 23:26]: > > > > So the Emacs website and documentation should not sell elisp short. > > > > > > "marketing", "marketing", "marketing", > > > "marketing", "marketing", "marketing". > > > > > > FWIW, a description, accurate or inaccurate, isn't > > > necessarily marketing.
Re: [emacs-tangents] Emacs website, Lisp, and other
* Christopher Dimech [2024-08-06 22:53]: > Flamewars begin when discussions employ inflated descriptions of a language I like it. > For instance, a statement like "The great power of the Lisp language makes it > ideal for other purposes, such as writing editing commands" can be seen as > provoca
Re: [emacs-tangents] 10 problems with Elisp, part 10
* Abraham S.A.H." via "Emacs development discussions. [2024-08-07 21:59]: > > Emacs-w3m is from Japan <3 > > As I said, perhaps only in Japan. > > However, as an Asian, I know no university in my country or neighbour > countries teaching Lisp. Just a few pages of history and no more. > But they
Re: [emacs-tangents] 10 problems with Elisp, part 10
* Emanuel Berg [2024-08-09 10:20]: > Abraham S.A.H." via "Emacs development discussions. wrote: > > >> It doesn't take much experience to do cool things fast in > >> Python, it is a fact. > > > > I agree to disagree, Emanuel! Sorry, but I do not think > > "Python is a generally better programmin
Re: [emacs-tangents] [External] : Emacs website, Lisp, and other
* Emanuel Berg [2024-08-15 10:05]: > Madhu wrote: > > >>> Comprehension of the user's program reaches its greatest > >>> heights for Lisp programs, because the simplicity of Lisp > >>> syntax makes intelligent editing operations easier to > >>> implement, while the complexity of other languages [
Re: [emacs-tangents] [External] : Emacs website, Lisp, and other
2024-10-23
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Drew Adams via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
> License does not prohibit selling. Motivation we know. > But it is sellable product, just as many other products. Yes. It's about the motivation - how and why a product gets produced. That you can sell something doesn't mean it's developed _for_ sale/profit. And it's not about whether it's _l
Re: [emacs-tangents] [External] : Emacs website, Lisp, and other
* Drew Adams [2024-10-24 00:21]: > If the development of GNU Emacs were dependent on > its sale, then you might have an argument. It's > not, and you don't. Development of GNU was dependent of money, and that money arrived from various sources, obviously also from sale. So it's product. I know
Re: [emacs-tangents] 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 (was: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other)
* Emanuel Berg [2024-10-24 00:13]: > Jean Louis wrote: > > >> Sure, but we are allowed to discuss how to make > >> Elisp better? > >> > >> Since Python has had enormous success, and Lisp hasn't - or > >> if it had, it lost it - it might be a good ide to analyze > >> what they (Python) did good.
Re: [emacs-tangents] [External] : Emacs website, Lisp, and other
* Emanuel Berg [2024-08-15 13:34]: > No proof, method, or data to back anything up. Not then, not > now. One should just accept that Lisp is the best programming > language with no investigation required, case closed. Finally, reason from your keyboard typing. Before your fingers start a rebellio
Re: [emacs-tangents] [External] : Emacs website, Lisp, and other
2024-10-23
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Drew Adams via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
> > > So the Emacs website and documentation should not sell elisp short. > > > > "marketing", "marketing", "marketing", > > "marketing", "marketing", "marketing". > > > > FWIW, a description, accurate or inaccurate, isn't > > necessarily marketing. We're not selling Emacs or > > Elisp. There's n
Re: [emacs-tangents] [External] : Emacs website, Lisp, and other
* Drew Adams [2024-08-07 02:11]: > > So the Emacs website and documentation should not sell elisp short. > > "marketing", "marketing", "marketing", > "marketing", "marketing", "marketing". > > FWIW, a description, accurate or inaccurate, isn't > necessarily marketing. We're not selling Emacs or
Re: [emacs-tangents] Emacs website, Lisp, and other
* Emanuel Berg [2024-08-07 13:51]: > Abraham S.A.H." via "Emacs development discussions. wrote: > > >> Lisp is stronger at universities. > > > > Not in Asia! I can't name a university in Asia where Lisp > > is taught. Lisp was never taught in our universities. Not > > in Asia and not in the Mi
Re: [emacs-tangents] 10 problems with Elisp, part 10
Emanuel Berg writes: > Yes, The developers have done _a lot_ but they have not been > the type of leaders who use their surroundings to make them > better, and become even better themselves. They want to do > everything themselves and if you are just a few bunch of guys > doing that, that's gonna
Re: [emacs-tangents] Emacs website, Lisp, and other
Jean Louis writes: > Emacs Lisp (Elisp) is not just any programming language; it's the > beating heart of the ultimate text editor, Emacs. Chosen by the > brilliant Richard Stallman for its unparalleled flexibility, Elisp > empowers users to customize their editing experience in ways that are > s
