* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-16 16:04]:
> > Documented or undocumented, it's common sense. This is a mailing list of
> > the GNU project, and it is hoped that this list will not recommend the
> > use of unethical software that does not comply with the GNU philosophy.
>
> Discussing and recommending
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-16 12:25]:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> > If I am not mistaken, you propose or initiate discussing how to list
> > proprietary software on some websites.
> >
> > GNU mailing lists are not for such discussions. GNU is project is
> >
* Max Nikulin [2022-10-16 19:10]:
> On 16/10/2022 14:32, Jean Louis wrote:
> > * Max Nikulin [2022-10-16 08:28]:
> > > I do not have strong opinion concerning proprietary application.
> > > Requirements for worg section as driven by user content are not so strict
>
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-16 18:02]:
> Clarification: I was actually referring to Jean's email. (I did not look
> at the sender and just now realized that you are not Jean)
>
> Having said that, my judgment may be still poor. I'd be happy to hear
> that I am wrong from Jean.
Sorry I am lost, I h
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-17 14:56]:
> Mostly in order to identify what we can improve in Org to remove the
> temptation to use that proprietary software. Fear to _not_ hear about why
> the proprietary software was even listed was the main motivator of my
> reply to your message.
Your above Engli
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-17 15:52]:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> >> Having said that, my judgment may be still poor. I'd be happy to hear
> >> that I am wrong from Jean.
> >
> > Sorry I am lost, I have no idea to what the above refers. 👀
>
> I was
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-17 16:18]:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> > However, IMHO and according to principles of free software, such as
> > not to steer users towards non-free software, then no links to
> > proprietary software shall be added from Org website pages, as
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-17 15:06]:
> So, we may link to non-free software, but only for the purposes other
> than encouraging to use it. This is a tricky distinction to master
> though. In your interpretation that we are going to promote using that
> non-free software, you are right. But I viewe
* Max Nikulin [2022-10-19 15:53]:
> Better balanced position is necessary otherwise it would be just weakness in
> communication with people who do not care if some software is free.
Then such people have the chance to learn what is free software. Their
weakness is not to know what it is.
> > I
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-24 05:52]:
>
> Except for https://easyPLAGIARISM.com/, feel free to send a patch
> against
Pure Plagiarism.
Getting customers for proprietary software through Org mailing list.
Plagiarists getting smarter and smarter.
* Overview of noun plagiarism
The noun plagiari
How were you introduced to Emacs?
Friend
Recommended by a colleague
University/College
Some part of the internet
You forgot that GNU/Linux distributions were initially distributed on
CD and DVD ROMs, people were buying it, getting from magazines "for
free" and by similar physical distribution.
IM
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-25 10:30]:
> > These words cheat the reader by telling that it is "compatible"
> > something, while it is not editor mode, it is probably whole editor
> > and software without Emacs.
>
> Are you saying that there is GPL violation of Org mode licence by this
> "EasyOrg" a
This wish request is related to Emacs EWW and Org mode.
Please make EWW recognize Org file when served by WWW server. Currently
it does not recognize the MIME type text/x-org and opens the file as
text, it does not invoke the org mode. In my opinion, it should.
Inspect following file by using l
* Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide [2022-10-25 18:06]:
> > This wish request is related to Emacs EWW and Org mode.
> >
> > Please make EWW recognize Org file when served by WWW server. Currently
> > it does not recognize the MIME type text/x-org and opens the file as
> > text, it does not invoke the org
* Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide [2022-10-26 01:02]:
> All of the Emacs packages have some amount of implicit trust.
Users are unaware what package may do, and packages are everywhere on
Internet. That is not a problem that I wish to solve.
> If you ask me whether I can make this work safely: This wo
Forgot this attached file, so you can see how easy it is to customize
Iceweasel to open Org files, it works well.
Org files are native to Emacs, I wish to open Org files by using EWW.
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* Stefan Kangas [2022-10-26 09:08]:
> Ihor Radchenko writes:
>
> > The "problem" with shell links you are describing is a question of
> > setting variables and is also disabled by default.
> >
> > eww-mode, when loading Org page, could simply set
> > org-link-shell-confirm-function to its defaul
* Ag Ibragimov [2022-10-26 01:13]:
> Can't you just use one of hooks (e.g., eww-after-render-hook) where you
> inspect the URL and if it's .org, just change the mode?
>
> This should be trivial to do, I think.
I need to inspect content type. Not extension.
My WWW file may be of HTML content typ
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-26 09:52]:
> Strictly speaking, even eww-mode may run arbitrary code given that user
> puts something into eww-mode-hook.
eww-mode-hook is a variable defined in ‘eww.el’.
Its value is (org-eww-extend-eww-keymap)
Please help me recognize content type by using eww-mode-h
* Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide [2022-10-26 14:58]:
> I may have misunderstood what you want.
>
> Do you want eww to open text/x-org files in org-mode by default, or do
> you search for a way how you can modify your local eww to open
> text/x-org files with org-mode?
>
> My worries apply to the firs
* Andreas Schwab [2022-10-26 15:48]:
> On Okt 26 2022, Jean Louis wrote:
>
> > If there is way to extend EWW and Emacs in such way that I can tell
> > EWW what to do on certain content type, just as I do with other
> > browsers, that would solve the problem.
>
> Th
* Rudolf Adamkovič via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text
editors [2022-10-26 16:10]:
> So, I evaluated
>
> (add-to-list 'mailcap-mime-data
>(list "org"
> (cons 'viewer 'org-mode)
> (cons 'type "text/x-org")))
>
> but it
* Andreas Schwab [2022-10-26 16:58]:
> On Okt 26 2022, Jean Louis wrote:
>
> > * Andreas Schwab [2022-10-26 15:48]:
> >> On Okt 26 2022, Jean Louis wrote:
> >>
> >> > If there is way to extend EWW and Emacs in such way that I can tell
> >> >
* Max Nikulin [2022-10-26 20:10]:
> If you were just requested mapping of Content-Type to some mode in
> eww, perhaps it would pass.
That is exactly what I need, thanks
> You demanded Org mode configured by default.
Hmm, that could be some misunderstanding. I have .mailcap file and I
know I can
* Max Nikulin [2022-10-27 06:21]:
> Expected result:
> No code from the Org buffer and linked files is executed prior to
> confirmation from the user.
Should that be or is it a general policy for Org mode?
> Emacs-26.3, Org version is current main HEAD:
>
> 6bbd08f5a 2022-10-26 15:15:42 +0800 I
* Jean Louis [2022-10-25 15:14]:
>
> This wish request is related to Emacs EWW and Org mode.
>
> Please make EWW recognize Org file when served by WWW server. Currently
> it does not recognize the MIME type text/x-org and opens the file as
> text, it does not invoke the org m
* Andreas Schwab [2022-10-27 11:03]:
> On Okt 26 2022, Jean Louis wrote:
>
> > With "predicate" do you mean URI scheme?
>
> When I write predicate, I mean predicate.
Can that predicate understand content type?
Do you have an example?
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* Max Nikulin [2022-10-27 18:40]:
> On 27/10/2022 11:55, Jean Louis wrote:
> >
> > Now is clear that main problem here is that Org advertises somewhere
> > to be "text" in MIME context, while it is not, it is by default
> > "application" and thus un
* Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide [2022-10-27 14:23]:
>
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> > * Jean Louis [2022-10-25 15:14]:
> >>
> >> This wish request is related to Emacs EWW and Org mode.
> >>
> >> Please make EWW recognize Org file when served by W
* Max Nikulin [2022-10-27 18:41]:
> Chromium is able to display text/x-org internally just as text/plain and I
> like it as a way to preview and review file contents.
Org file is for Emacs. It is not for Chromium.
Just as you can display application/json in Chromium as text, does not
make applic
* Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide [2022-10-28 01:11]:
>
> Max Nikulin writes:
>
> > How are you going to distinguish your personal files and arbitrary
> > files from non-trusted sources? By signing your files and maintaining
> > list of trusted certificates?
>
> One idea that could work well is to a
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-28 06:19]:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> > * Max Nikulin [2022-10-27 06:21]:
> >> Expected result:
> >> No code from the Org buffer and linked files is executed prior to
> >> confirmation from the user.
> >
> > Sh
To solve that problem personally, I use Asciidoctor, see how it is
done there:
Example 76. Table with formatted, aligned and merged cells:
https://docs.asciidoctor.org/asciidoc/latest/syntax-quick-reference/#ex-cell-format
Org has Babel, for purposes of HTML output, Org file could use Bable
to ge
* Renato Pontefice [2022-10-30 19:11]:
> I have to take a pill each 3 days, but for max 10 times.
> So I set a TODO pill >2022-10-28 +3d> and each 3 days my calendar tell me
> that I have to take the pill. But is possible to say 1/10; 2/10; 3/10 etc?
> I nean to show how many pill I have already
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-30 12:27]:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> > To solve that problem personally, I use Asciidoctor, see how it is
> > done there:
> >
> > Example 76. Table with formatted, aligned and merged cells:
> > https://docs.asciidoctor.org/asciidoc/la
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-31 08:15]:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> > * Renato Pontefice [2022-10-30 19:11]:
> >> I have to take a pill each 3 days, but for max 10 times.
> >> So I set a TODO pill >2022-10-28 +3d> and each 3 days my calendar tell me
>
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-31 09:27]:
> Thanks for pointing this out!
> Hours are, in fact, allowed.
> Fixed the manual now.
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=5098404b19962042cd29ad86e11ccb43ac566953
That is great.
How certain is that function, does it work reliabl
* Quiliro Ordóñez [2022-10-31 13:03]:
> El 2022-10-30 23:57, Jean Louis escribió:
> > * Renato Pontefice [2022-10-30 19:11]:
> >> I have to take a pill each 3 days, but for max 10 times.
> >> So I set a TODO pill >2022-10-28 +3d> and each 3 days my calendar tell
I am using Org mode for presentation and would like to use it's tables
for presentation only.
In particular I need the function org-table-align to align the table
in presentation mode.
The Org buffer is updated with results of the below embedded
functions. I can't use Org mode directly as many va
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-11-04 07:50]:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> > I am using Org mode for presentation and would like to use it's tables
> > for presentation only.
> >
> > In particular I need the function org-table-align to align the table
> > in p
* Heime [2022-11-05 10:45]:
> Have been introspecting the possibility of conveniently inserting table
> programatically
> in elisp and encountered "table.el".
>
> Have constructed this function, but the difficulty centers around
> the challenge of inserting text in specific tests.
>
> (defun ma
* Heime [2022-11-05 12:27]:
> > And now the final result:
> >
> > (rcd-org-table my-table) ⇒ "
> > | ID | Description | Amount |
> > |--++|
> > | 1.00 | Payment for domain | 10.50 |
> > | 2.00 | Transfer from Doe | 250.00 |
> >
> > "
>
> The problem I see is that
* Heime [2022-11-05 12:27]:
> The problem I see is that the code assumes use of org-mode, whereas
> I am interested in more general tables in any buffer. At first
> perhaps just making a table for display rather than for user
> interaction.
You said you want them generated programmatically first
Document nil
Override Major Mode nil
Minor Modes nil
Related country nil
Report to nil
Physical location nil
Lead Source nil
Currenc
* Jan Ulrich Hasecke [2022-11-12 21:09]:
> Dear all,
>
> I am doing my first steps to do some database publishing with org-babel
> and sqlite. So far quite successful, but I am still very new to this, so
> I would appreciate if you can recommend a tutorial on this. I am mostly
> interested in pub
* Samuel Wales [2022-11-16 07:06]:
> idk if related to this thread, but i sure do appreciate the effor in
> this thread to solve such problems. it is a key feature for me
> because i am often in mouse-only mode. it is thus a constant concern
> that org-capture could stop working etc.
>
> right
* Samuel Wales [2022-11-17 06:19]:
> in other words, you click unicorn, it does some org-protocol call, and
> then it flashes that nice but misleading message.
That is why I am using Emacs to tell me audibly that bookmark was
recorded.
Forgive me for not using really Org to record what org-proto
* Paul Schlesinger [2022-12-16 02:04]:
> started getting an encoding warning when i would tell emacs I wanted to
> quit. The warning indicated the offending characters but they were in an
> unformatted buffer on the screen and I became fatigued trying to correct
> them.
That will happen not onl
Hello Sterling,
* Sterling Hooten [2022-12-14 08:39]:
> I'm trying to clone Lotus notes in Org mode.
What features do you try to implement?
Or are you trying to import your own notes into the Org?
Org does not have functions of sharing, while it could have,
it doesn't, it is not considered imp
thing!
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-12-16 14:46]:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> > * Sterling Hooten [2022-12-14 08:39]:
> >> I'm trying to clone Lotus notes in Org mode.
> >
> > What features do you try to implement?
> >
> > Or are you trying to import
In my opinion the function: (org-heading-components) shall not error,
no matter if it is called outside of the heading, it could still
return nil values if it is outside of the header.
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)
looking-at(nil)
org-heading-components()
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-12-16 18:21]:
> I agree that your message is on topic. Just, as I pointed, I feel like
> it is a bit too broad to be useful. I may be wrong, of course.
You may take it personally, but you shouldn't, as people like me, and
others, may not always discuss exactly that what you
* Paul Schlesinger [2022-12-17 00:31]:
> Just to remind you the encoding warning does not occur with the same files
> using the emacs 28.1 with orgmode 9.52 included. The characters that
> trigger the warning are ones that are not found in UTF-8 and since I do a
> lot of editing of web documents
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-12-17 12:59]:
> The error looks like you attempted to run `org-heading-components' in
> non-Org buffer. `org-heading-components' behaviour in non-Org buffers is
> undefined.
OK I can change it for my personal use, however, consider that
function `org-heading-components' is
* Tim Cross [2022-12-18 04:26]:
> > M-x org-id-get-create
>
> I think this is an unrealistic expectation. We have sufficient
> challenges ensuring org functions work within org buffers without adding
> the additional burden of expectation they would work outside these
> buffers where there is no
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-12-18 17:57]:
> andre duarte bueno writes:
>
> > When I try to export file.org using C-c C-e the window with the list of
> > possibilities appears. But it appears incomplete(visualization), so I try
> > to use the mouse to view the other export options and the system is
>
* andre duarte bueno [2022-12-18 12:30]:
> When I try to export file.org using C-c C-e the window with the list of
> possibilities appears. But it appears incomplete(visualization), so I try
> to use the mouse to view the other export options and the system is
> completely blocked. Every mouse cl
When I set following:
(setq org-agenda-window-setup 'other-window) with intention to get
agenda in other window, together with following:
(setq split-window-preferred-function 'split-window-vertically)
then
(org-agenda-list)
is not going to show itself in other window but in new or other frame.
* Max Nikulin [2022-12-24 14:06]:
> On 24/12/2022 14:52, Jean Louis wrote:
> > When I set following:
> > (setq org-agenda-window-setup 'other-window) with intention to get
> > agenda in other window, together with following:
> >
> > (setq split-window-prefe
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-12-25 15:07]:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> >> > Apparently C-c C-e is capturing all events and not just keyboard
> >> > events!
> >
> > That is not first complaint, right? I would say it is obvious that
> > such interface is no
* Ihor Radchenko [2022-12-26 13:05]:
> In any case, breaking the way existing menu works is not something we
> can do without proposing a fallback.
> https://bzg.fr/en/the-software-maintainers-pledge/
I have never said anything about "breaking the way existing menu
works".
The concept offered do
* Eduardo Ochs [2022-12-31 04:11]:
> Hi Jean Louis,
>
> did you solve your problem? Did you find a way to replace the
> blocking code by something else?
Of course, for me personally, I have fully solved it, you can see
video here:
https://gnu.support/files/emacs/packages/rcd-org-ex
* to...@tuxteam.de [2022-12-31 10:12]:
> Perhaps it would make sense to state the goals in more
> detail. I can see many "aspects":
>
> - "I don't want my ~/.emacs.d/ littered beyond my explicit
>control"
Isn't that happening anyway by various packages and functions? I see
there "auto-insta
I was reading about Orgdown, Karl, please keep the name, and don't
mind the group.
* Eduardo Ochs [2023-01-02 09:01]:
> (3) _is_ my experience with the Org mailing list.
>
> What I meant by "the developers like your questions" was roughly:
> "recognizing that that person deserves help, and givin
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-03 15:18]:
> Eduardo, I am sorry, but from my opinion it is too much. Perhaps you are
> just not realizing that resources of developers are rather limited. Getting
> rid of `read-char-exclusive' in Org menus requires significant amount of
> work.
Yeah, right, I have spent f
Pointers for you Eduardo:
(find-efunction 'org-export-dispatch)
(find-efunction 'org-export--dispatch-ui)
(progn (find-efunction 'org-export--dispatch-ui) (forward-line 48))
(progn (find-efunction 'org-export--dispatch-ui) (search-forward "Export
scope"))
(find-efunction 'org-export-define-backen
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-03 15:18]:
> Jean might be happy with the posted mock-up. Unfortunately that code is too
> far from been ready to be used for all users. E.g. it does not use
> `org-export-registered-backends', not to mention that all menus in the
> package should be consistent. It is OK to
> Can you send to me - here to the mailing list - a version of
> `org-export-dispatch', and also of other functions if needed, in which
> the parts that call `read-char-exclusive' are replaced by something
> non-blocking?
There is no Org version of menu that does not block. That it is there
is due
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-05 14:16]:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> > Though, we speak here of non-blicking Org Export, and there are many
> > ways to do it, we speak of decisions that are not user friendly, made
> > before more than 10 years.
> >
> > There was eno
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-05 14:17]:
> Could you please elaborate what is bad about the design and maybe
> provide some ideas how it can be improved?
There was choice back in time, before 10 years, to provide to user few
keys to run some functions, like Org export. That itself is not bad,
but whe
* alain.coch...@unistra.fr [2023-01-05 17:46]:
> Ihor Radchenko writes on Thu 5 Jan 2023 11:07:
>
> > However, I doubt that you can make much use of the buffer itself -
> > it is nothing but text.
>
> Without my suggesting that anything at all should be done, I am
> commenting that sometimes
Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See
https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback
Your bug report will be posted to the Org mailing list.
---
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-07 12:04]:
> > The Concept and More Ideas:
> > ---
> >
> > 1. You can create derived mode, for example Org derived mode.
>
> This has pros and cons. Org derived mode means that personal
> customization, including key bindings and themes, may affec
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-07 12:04]:
> As I said, the requirement to get it into the core is re-creating
> previous layout and bindings. The layout and bindings may be
> customizable, but they must be available.
You have got the concept, you may implement it.
> > The Concept and More Ideas:
> >
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-06 06:30]:
> Could you, please, concentrate on your vision of proper
> `org-export-registered-backends' design?
I leave that to Org developers. That variable is not described well,
neither mentioned in Org manual.
I can only reiterate my point which you did not understand
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-06 17:56]:
> Tomas Zellerin writes:
>
> > When Agenda buffer is in a side window, several actions fail with
> > "Cannot make side window the only window".
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > emacs -Q
> > in *scratch*, (setq display-buffer-alist '(("\\*Org Agenda\\*"
> > display-bu
* alain.coch...@unistra.fr [2023-01-06 02:16]:
:ATTACH:
:PROPERTIES:
:ID: 51b2af8b-b2b1-45a7-ab74-1d8e7d8fce7e
:END:
> so I was trying to understand if there is a way to deduce whether or
> not a particular function is a command. Based on several examples
> such as
>
>‘M-’ (‘org-do-de
Is there a way to change TODO state for intersection of headings, for example,
for some headings by tag to change the TODO state at once?
Jean
* Samuel Wales [2023-01-10 04:41]:
> idk if i understand your q but you can do agenda on tag and then batch
> command.
Thanks, what batch command do you mean?
Do you mean this one:
org-batch-agenda is an autoloaded Lisp macro in ‘org-agenda.el’.
(org-batch-agenda CMD-KEY &rest PARAMETERS)
Ru
* Nick Dokos [2023-01-10 20:53]:
> IIUC, you can use `org-map-entries` to apply the function `org-todo`
> (or a different function if you want) to a collection of nodes in a
> file that are specified through tags/properties matches:
>
>(org-map-entries #'org-todo "LEVEL=1" 'file)
>
> will ap
* Samuel Wales [2023-01-12 04:07]:
> i meant bulk.
It helped! After few deviations.
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* Daryl Manning [2023-01-13 11:59]:
> *Background*
>
> 1. org-time-stamp-formats TZ currently only affects display and exports
> 2. org-agenda itself is not TZ aware
> 3. Several discussions on this have taken place over time
> 4. Concerns raise included breaking backwards compatibility
>
> *Pro
* Daryl Manning [2023-01-14 09:30]:
> To Jean Louis' point: using timestamps without timezones is a don't in much
> of computing these days and perhaps hearkens back to the simpler age emacs
> and org originated in. =] (kidding!).
I see it that way, yes. Isn't it so.
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-14 10:14]:
> Let's assume <2023-01-15 Sun 09:00 +1>
>
> It may be suitable for timestamps in the past, but future is more tricky.
> There is no problem if you are going to watch Lunar eclipse. However if your
> plan is to attend a local event there is a chance that you will
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-14 19:59]:
> On 14/01/2023 20:08, Jean Louis wrote:
> > * Max Nikulin [2023-01-14 10:14]:
> > > Let's assume <2023-01-15 Sun 09:00 +1>
> > >
> > > It may be suitable for timestamps in the past, but future is more tricky.
>
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-14 16:23]:
> But why do we need any time zone data? All we need to converting from
> and to internal Emacs' time representation supplying the correct time
> zone to it.
When Org file is very personal and location centric, then there is no
need for it.
When Org file has
* Tim Cross [2023-01-14 23:25]:
> Yes, this is a problem. We really want a symbolic TZ
> specification and we would need 'smarts' i the timestamp generation code
> that is able to handle potential offset changes due to daylight savings
> transition etc. Even then, the transition time can change be
* Tim Cross [2023-01-15 10:58]:
> WRT future timestamps, we would probably have to take the same
> approach as postgres i.e. the timezone rules in force at the time
> the timestamp is created are assumed to be 'forever'. While this is
> not true, it is really the only solution you can adopt and yo
* to...@tuxteam.de [2023-01-14 20:16]:
> What I can imagine being useful (besides allowing timestamps to carry
> that extra info) is the possibility to set defaults, perhaps at the
> file (even, who knows, at the heading) level. A special attribute
> seems pretty adequate, if I'm not missing some
* Tim Cross [2023-01-15 01:13]:
> I think I basically agree with the last statement. However, perhaps we
> need to step back and ask ourselves what it is that people do want which
> drives this feature request. I doubt it is simply the ability to add TZ
> information to timestamps. I suspect the u
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-14 20:08]:
> > When you have appointments with people in totally diverse time zones,
> > perhaps dates tend to be more fixed wrt UTC.
>
> AFAIK, people don't usually bother.
Can't agree to that, we who do bother will simply find different
solutions but Org, like I have
* Max Nikulin [2023-01-15 08:05]:
> I totally agree with the recommendation to use timestamptz for data related
> to something in history: billing, bank transactions, etc.
>
> However it is call to trouble for planned events and schedules. Not
> frequent, so almost untested use cases.
>
> If I r
* Tim Cross [2023-01-15 00:40]:
> The internal representation of timestamps used by Postgres is ALWAYS
> UTC, regardless of whether the field was defined as timestamp or
> timestamp with timezone.
Right.
> The only real difference is that if the field is defined as just
> timestamp, postgres ass
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-14 16:23]:
> Tim Cross writes:
>
> > Consider for example an agenda file where the TODO items have been added
> > while I am here in Australia (currently +11:00 w/ DST). Tomorrow I fly
> > to Europe where I will be working for the next 6 weeks. I need all my
> > TODOs w
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-16 14:25]:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> >> I am not sure what is the problem.
> >> The timestamps that should stay in local time will be automatically
> >> updated as your system TZ is updated.
> >
> > Then Org shall know wh
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-16 14:21]:
> In another message, I also mentioned an idea of specifying time zone
> globally or per file. Other suggestion was per-heading specification. In
> addition to time zone being specified directly inside the timestamp.
Of course that is solution. iCalendar expor
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-16 22:08]:
> 1. Time (-MM-DD HH:MM) not continuous and may change arbitrarily at
>certain times a year or in future or in the past:
I am sure that system library must be responsible to know those
changes. It is not for Org.
So the calculation which transforms +
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-17 22:51]:
> Some good news is that all the above edge cases would equally affect the
> current Org's timestamp handling code. Yet, we have no bug reports in
> this area. I'd even go further and say that we should not try hard to
> make things 100% accurate: (1) it will w
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-18 12:35]:
> > It means there shall be functions which can convert timestamps to the
> > new time zone, with the option to left unchanged those timestamps who
> > already have time zone specified, and with option not to be converted.
>
> I am not sure why you need a diff
* Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-18 12:29]:
> What should we do when:
>
> 1. It is close to DST transition 2:59 -> 2:00 -> 2:01 -> ... -> 2:59 -> 3:00
>and the users asks to create a timestamp +1h from now
>or, worse, a timestamp +1h from now in a different time zone
I still understand that it
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