> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Rose writes:
Sebastian> Frankly speaking, Org-mode provides a lot of expressive power
Sebastian> if you want it while still keeping document very readable and
Sebastian> nowadays can produce DocBook output simply by pressing `C-c
Sebastian> C-e D' ;-)
I agree about
> "Baoqiu" == Baoqiu Cui writes:
Baoqiu> You won't see real difference if we are talking about software
Baoqiu> manuals or documentation etc.
For software manuals reST/Sphinx provides all what I need - check some
of the docs here: http://sphinx.pocoo.org/examples.html
Baoqiu> Maybe you shou
Baoqiu Cui writes:
> Dale Smith writes:
>
>> Baoqiu Cui writes:
>>
>>> The only thing that is missing (at least to me) in current Org-mode is
>>> the exporter for DocBook format.
>>
>> There is quite a bit of similarity between org and muse formats. I've
>> found that I can edit .muse files in
Dale Smith writes:
> Sebastian Rose writes:
>
>> Gour writes:
>>> Otoh, number of tags in DocBook is overwhelming and, imgo, way too
>>> distracting for most documentation tasks, at least, for *my* use-cases.
>>
>>
>> It is, and that's exactly why the DocBook export is such a great thing.
>>
>
Gour writes:
>> "Baoqiu" == Baoqiu Cui writes:
>
> Baoqiu> I knew it must be FOP that you did not like. ;-) I had similar
> Baoqiu> experience using FOP, and I (and all other team members) had to
> Baoqiu> find workarounds when hitting problems in FOP (like formatting
> Baoqiu> footnotes in
Sebastian Rose writes:
> Gour writes:
>> Otoh, number of tags in DocBook is overwhelming and, imgo, way too
>> distracting for most documentation tasks, at least, for *my* use-cases.
>
>
> It is, and that's exactly why the DocBook export is such a great thing.
>
> You could say a similar thing
Gour writes:
> Frankly speaking, reST provides a lot of expressive power if you want
> it, while still keeping document very readable and no DTDs, schemas,
> validation, fiddling with catalogs etc. :-D
How about:
Frankly speaking, Org-mode provides a lot of expressive power if you
want it while
Gour writes:
> Otoh, number of tags in DocBook is overwhelming and, imgo, way too
> distracting for most documentation tasks, at least, for *my* use-cases.
It is, and that's exactly why the DocBook export is such a great thing.
You could say a similar thing about (valid) XHTML, LaTeX, reST -
w
> "Baoqiu" == Baoqiu Cui writes:
Baoqiu> I knew it must be FOP that you did not like. ;-) I had similar
Baoqiu> experience using FOP, and I (and all other team members) had to
Baoqiu> find workarounds when hitting problems in FOP (like formatting
Baoqiu> footnotes in lists or tables).
Not
Hi Gour,
Gour writes:
>> "Baoqiu" == Baoqiu Cui writes:
>
> Baoqiu> It is true that many open-source tools around DocBook are still
> Baoqiu> not perfect, but they should be good enough for most of the work
> Baoqiu> of most users. Some commercial tools exist and are better, but
> Baoqiu>
> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Rose writes:
Sebastian> I just did a quick search only and I think more intensive
Sebastian> search would reveal many more.
Check Pandoc's features:
"Pandoc is a Haskell library for converting from one markup format to
another, and a command-line tool that uses th
> "Matthew" == Matthew Lundin writes:
Hi Matthew,
Matthew> Apart from odt output, I'd be curious to know what reST can do
Matthew> that org-mode markup and export cannot. Footnotes, tables,
Matthew> hyperlinks, images---I've found org-mode to be a really great
Matthew> authoring tool for expo
> "Baoqiu" == Baoqiu Cui writes:
Baoqiu> It is true that many open-source tools around DocBook are still
Baoqiu> not perfect, but they should be good enough for most of the work
Baoqiu> of most users. Some commercial tools exist and are better, but
Baoqiu> they are not free. (I have not use
>> Sebastian> I highly apreciate the support of Docbook and your
>> Sebastian> effort. Yet, I think I don't want to publish XHTML through
>> Sebastian> Docbook.
Googling brings up quite some interesting formats supported through
DocBook. These are some of the formats I found on the first glance:
Hi Gour,
Gour writes:
>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Rose writes:
>
> Sebastian> I highly apreciate the support of Docbook and your
> Sebastian> effort. Yet, I think I don't want to publish XHTML through
> Sebastian> Docbook.
>
> +1
>
> I gave up on DocBook long ago. It's pain to author docu
Gour writes:
>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Rose writes:
>
> Sebastian> I highly apreciate the support of Docbook and your
> Sebastian> effort. Yet, I think I don't want to publish XHTML through
> Sebastian> Docbook.
>
> +1
>
> I gave up on DocBook long ago. It's pain to author documents in i
> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Rose writes:
Sebastian> I highly apreciate the support of Docbook and your
Sebastian> effort. Yet, I think I don't want to publish XHTML through
Sebastian> Docbook.
+1
I gave up on DocBook long ago. It's pain to author documents in it and
the tools are quite wea
Dale Smith writes:
> Sebastian Rose writes:
>
>> The LaTeX and XHTML export (which, by the
>> way, could be transformed just as good as docbook) work and are widely
>> used.
>
> I'm not sure sure. I think docbook is much more content oriented than
> LaTeX and xhtml, which seem to be more presen
Sebastian Rose writes:
> The LaTeX and XHTML export (which, by the
> way, could be transformed just as good as docbook) work and are widely
> used.
I'm not sure sure. I think docbook is much more content oriented than
LaTeX and xhtml, which seem to be more presentation oriented. To
me anyway.
Sebastian Rose writes:
>> I have not tried it, but it seems that syntax highlighting of source
>> code listing can be done. See this page:
>>
>> http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/SyntaxHighlighting.html
>
>
> Does this know about the fonts and colors I use in Emacs? htmlize.el
> does.
I don
Baoqiu Cui writes:
> Sebastian Rose writes:
>>
>> I think we would find hundreds of xslt stylesheets on the web to
>> transform Docbook to virtually any format.
>
> Yes, this is the power and beauty of DocBook.
>
>> Will we loose the features of htmlize.el?
>> I'm not familiar with the Docbook D
Baoqiu Cui writes:
> Sebastian Rose writes:
>
>> docbook is great since it's widely used.
>
> Yes, DocBook has been adopted by many organizations in different areas
> in the past years. Once we have a good exporter for DocBook, we
> basically build a bridge for exporting Org files to all other
Sebastian Rose writes:
>
> I think we would find hundreds of xslt stylesheets on the web to
> transform Docbook to virtually any format.
Yes, this is the power and beauty of DocBook.
> Will we loose the features of htmlize.el?
> I'm not familiar with the Docbook DTD - I know it includes lots of
Sebastian Rose writes:
> docbook is great since it's widely used.
Yes, DocBook has been adopted by many organizations in different areas
in the past years. Once we have a good exporter for DocBook, we
basically build a bridge for exporting Org files to all other formats.
> The output looks go
Hi,
Sebastian> Anyway, I'd prefere to export to _one_ XML format from
Sebastian> Org-mode and provide xslt stylesheets to translate between
Sebastian> different formats.
Sebastian> That way we all would concentrate on one XML exporter (e.g.
Sebastian> the XHTML exporter) and could provide xslt st
Dale Smith writes:
> Baoqiu Cui writes:
>
>> The only thing that is missing (at least to me) in current Org-mode is
>> the exporter for DocBook format.
>
> There is quite a bit of similarity between org and muse formats. I've
> found that I can edit .muse files in org-mode and stiil publish to
Sebastian Rose writes:
> Anyway, I'd prefere to export to _one_ XML format from Org-mode and
> provide xslt stylesheets to translate between different formats.
>
> That way we all would concentrate on one XML exporter (e.g. the XHTML
> exporter) and could provide xslt stylesheets to transform the
docbook is great since it's widely used.
The output looks good!
How could we test it?
And could we configure it somehow?
Anyway, I'd prefere to export to _one_ XML format from Org-mode and
provide xslt stylesheets to translate between different formats.
That way we all would concentrate on
Baoqiu Cui writes:
> The only thing that is missing (at least to me) in current Org-mode is
> the exporter for DocBook format.
There is quite a bit of similarity between org and muse formats. I've
found that I can edit .muse files in org-mode and stiil publish to
docbook.
> During the last we
Baoqiu Cui writes:
> Hello Dominik,
Sorry, I meant "Prof. Dominik". The email address misled me. :-)
Baoqiu
> use it two weeks ago. I've been using (X)Emacs since 1995, and had
> tried to use Muse about 2-3 years ago for note-taking and simple
> publishing (i.e. generating LaTeX or DocBook
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