Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-28 Thread Alan Schmitt
On 2015-05-18 23:42, Marcin Borkowski writes: > On 2015-04-24, at 08:19, Vikas Rawal wrote: > >> I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text >> (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt >> with. >> >> What could be an the easy way o

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-19 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus writes: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> Then it cannot even replace inlinetasks. > > Is that a goal? It should be. We don't need another syntax for something that does almost the same thing as an inlinetask but, yet, isn't one. Inline todo/inlinetasks, there can only be one. > I think "

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-04-24, at 08:19, Vikas Rawal wrote: > I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text > (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt > with. > > What could be an the easy way of doing it? Well, it seems that the thread went some

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Rasmus writes: > Eric S Fraga writes: > >> On Monday, 18 May 2015 at 15:16, Rasmus wrote: >>> Nicolas Goaziou writes: I don't know what is a TODO functionality since you suggest to not make it appear in the agenda. >>> >>> E.g. "Sentence about BAR [TODO: add reference to FOO and check

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Eric S Fraga
Hi all, Actually, having pondered this whole annotation and task business while heading home after work on the train, I think all I would like is a simple annotation scheme with no need for tasks etc. We have plenty of support for tasks with headlines. What we don't have is simple annotations.

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2015-05-18 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> Fine whit me. For that I I have inlinetasks. > > Then it cannot even replace inlinetasks. Is that a goal? >> Its virtues are compactness, being similar to a list, being C-k friendly, >> and, IMO, more intuitive. > > But, IMO, totally useless for general annotations.

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2015-05-18 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus writes: > Fine whit me. For that I I have inlinetasks. Then it cannot even replace inlinetasks. > The tags. They are notes related to say a sentence, so you put a note at > the end of a sentence. Spatial TODOs. I still don't get it, sorry. > Its virtues are compactness, being simila

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Rasmus
Eric S Fraga writes: > On Monday, 18 May 2015 at 15:16, Rasmus wrote: >> Nicolas Goaziou writes: >>> I don't know what is a TODO functionality since you suggest to not make >>> it appear in the agenda. >> >> E.g. "Sentence about BAR [TODO: add reference to FOO and check BAZ]". I >> don't need t

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> My guess would be that most notes are short. For such notes, but not >> necessarily for longer notes, [@:NOTE] would be more convenient. > > This is very limited: you cannot write two paragraphs in your note. Fine whit me. For that I I have inlinetasks. >> Though I

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Monday, 18 May 2015 at 15:16, Rasmus wrote: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: [...] >> I don't know what is a TODO functionality since you suggest to not make >> it appear in the agenda. > > E.g. "Sentence about BAR [TODO: add reference to FOO and check BAZ]". I > don't need that in my agenda. Exac

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2015-05-18 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus writes: > My guess would be that most notes are short. For such notes, but not > necessarily for longer notes, [@:NOTE] would be more convenient. This is very limited: you cannot write two paragraphs in your note. > Though I don't know what the "@" signifies. AnnoTate? > I think what

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> But note that I am more interested in an inline noting/todo functionality >> as opposed to annotation functionality. > > Inline noting is > > > Text[@:1][@] > > * Annotations > > [@:1:] My note. My guess would be that most notes are short. For such notes,

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus writes: > While we have opening and closing tags for formatting (e.g. bold), I > dislike the above. It seems like asking for trouble; it would seem one > could easily loose track and delete one end of the tag and not the other. > IOW: [@:ID1]... [@:ID2]...[@]...[@] seems like asking for t

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2015-05-18 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> We're just talking about annotations-plus-metadata here, right? Not >> actual in-text TODOs? > > I'm not convinced in-text TODOs would be interesting, because they would > make building the agenda an order of magnitude slower. IM

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2015-05-08 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Eric Abrahamsen writes: > We're just talking about annotations-plus-metadata here, right? Not > actual in-text TODOs? I'm not convinced in-text TODOs would be interesting, because they would make building the agenda an order of magnitude slower. My concerns about syntax are: - it sho

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2015-05-03 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Rasmus writes: > Hi, > > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> We're just talking about annotations-plus-metadata here, right? Not >> actual in-text TODOs? > > I don't know. > >> From what I can tell, rasmus seems to be proposing an in-text TODO, > > I mainly extrapolated from your example. Further, I e

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-30 Thread John Kitchin
Rasmus writes: > Hi, > > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> We're just talking about annotations-plus-metadata here, right? Not >> actual in-text TODOs? > > I don't know. > >> From what I can tell, rasmus seems to be proposing an in-text TODO, > > I mainly extrapolated from your example. Further, I e

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-30 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 11:58, Rasmus wrote: [...] >> I've definitely wanted some sort of a track changes equivalent in Org, >> but we'd want to be careful about this. > > Isn't this the job of VC? I'm not sure how we can concisely represent all > the needed metadata? Something like I'm 10

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-30 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Eric Abrahamsen writes: > We're just talking about annotations-plus-metadata here, right? Not > actual in-text TODOs? I don't know. > From what I can tell, rasmus seems to be proposing an in-text TODO, I mainly extrapolated from your example. Further, I extrapolated from the notion of or

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Yup, "annotation mechanism" is about right. Just to be clear, you think >> it fits into the category of incubation-prior-to-core? > > I think so. > >> If anyone thinks that this mechanism warrants actual new Org syntax, I'd >> be happy to wo

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2015-04-29 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Yup, "annotation mechanism" is about right. Just to be clear, you think > it fits into the category of incubation-prior-to-core? I think so. > If anyone thinks that this mechanism warrants actual new Org syntax, I'd > be happy to work on implementing that. I also thin

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2015-04-29 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Eric S Fraga writes: > On Wednesday, 29 Apr 2015 at 20:34, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > > [...] > >> Yup, "annotation mechanism" is about right. Just to be clear, you think >> it fits into the category of incubation-prior-to-core? > > [...] > >> Now I wish we'd named it org-annotate. > > Is it too la

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Rasmus writes: > Hi, > > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Just to be clear, you think it fits into the category of >> incubation-prior-to-core? > > I think inlinetasks/comments that are actually *inline* would be nice! > >> If anyone thinks that this mechanism warrants actual new Org syntax, I'd >>

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 29 Apr 2015 at 10:00, John Kitchin wrote: [...] > There is in org-comment a command `org-comment-display-comments' which > will generate a buffer you can see all the comments in, and from that > pop to a comment, delete it, etc... Ah, thanks. That's good. -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFF

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread John Kitchin
Eric S Fraga writes: > Hello all, > > I have been following this whole thread with great interest, having > posted very early on the use of inline tasks as a solution for the OP. > > I use inline tasks a lot for both annotations and for TODO tasks when > writing papers. I like the link syntax pr

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread John Kitchin
Rasmus writes: > Hi Eric, > > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> *None* of the complexity is in the format itself: if you unloaded >> org-comment, the comment links would be perfectly human-readable. All of >> the complexity is in helper functions for manipulating them. I suppose >> it would be possib

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread John Kitchin
Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Rasmus writes: > >> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >> >>> Would this be eligible? >> >> Not that my .02€ are worth much, but I think the idea of inline notes is >> good, but I don't think it should be done using links. See e.g. the >> discussion on citation which introduced

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread John Kitchin
I think it could benefit from a dedicated syntax in the following context: There are different types of annotation you might like, e.g. delete, insert, replace, comment (I am drawing from ideas of annotations in PDF, and the idea of track changes). In multi-author documents you might want to know

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 29 Apr 2015 at 20:34, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: [...] > Yup, "annotation mechanism" is about right. Just to be clear, you think > it fits into the category of incubation-prior-to-core? [...] > Now I wish we'd named it org-annotate. Is it too late? Simple refactoring of the code? I

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
Hello all, I have been following this whole thread with great interest, having posted very early on the use of inline tasks as a solution for the OP. I use inline tasks a lot for both annotations and for TODO tasks when writing papers. I like the link syntax proposed but would much prefer someth

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Just to be clear, you think it fits into the category of > incubation-prior-to-core? I think inlinetasks/comments that are actually *inline* would be nice! > If anyone thinks that this mechanism warrants actual new Org syntax, I'd > be happy to work on implementin

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> I'm copying Nicolas -- Nicolas, is there a process for inclusion in >> contrib? Would this be eligible? I'll just stick it in Elpa, >> otherwise. > > Any package is eligible. > > However, contrib/ is from pre-"package.el" days. No

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Rasmus
Hi Eric, Eric Abrahamsen writes: > *None* of the complexity is in the format itself: if you unloaded > org-comment, the comment links would be perfectly human-readable. All of > the complexity is in helper functions for manipulating them. I suppose > it would be possible to define some non-link

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Rasmus writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Would this be eligible? > > Not that my .02€ are worth much, but I think the idea of inline notes is > good, but I don't think it should be done using links. See e.g. the > discussion on citation which introduced a [cite:⋯] command. A [comment:⋯] >

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Eric Abrahamsen writes: > I'm copying Nicolas -- Nicolas, is there a process for inclusion in > contrib? Would this be eligible? I'll just stick it in Elpa, > otherwise. Any package is eligible. However, contrib/ is from pre-"package.el" days. Nowadays, I tend to think it should be used

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Rasmus
Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Would this be eligible? Not that my .02€ are worth much, but I think the idea of inline notes is good, but I don't think it should be done using links. See e.g. the discussion on citation which introduced a [cite:⋯] command. A [comment:⋯] command would also IMO make m

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
John Kitchin writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> John Kitchin writes: >> >>> Hi Eric, >>> >>> I added some functions in the attachment. they colorize the comments, >>> add an org-comment menu to the org-menu, and some functions for pop to >>> and delete comments from the list mode, and a hydr

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-28 Thread John Kitchin
Eric Abrahamsen writes: > John Kitchin writes: > >> Hi Eric, >> >> I added some functions in the attachment. they colorize the comments, >> add an org-comment menu to the org-menu, and some functions for pop to >> and delete comments from the list mode, and a hydra for commands to >> insert comm

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-28 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
John Kitchin writes: > Hi Eric, > > I added some functions in the attachment. they colorize the comments, > add an org-comment menu to the org-menu, and some functions for pop to > and delete comments from the list mode, and a hydra for commands to > insert comments. Do you want to get this up on

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
John Kitchin writes: > Hi Eric, > > I added some functions in the attachment. they colorize the comments, > add an org-comment menu to the org-menu, and some functions for pop to > and delete comments from the list mode, and a hydra for commands to > insert comments. Do you want to get this up on

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread John Kitchin
Hi Eric, I added some functions in the attachment. they colorize the comments, add an org-comment menu to the org-menu, and some functions for pop to and delete comments from the list mode, and a hydra for commands to insert comments. Do you want to get this up on github to facilitate developing i

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
John Kitchin writes: > Emacs anticipated this need and can help formulate comments > specifically for the NSA :) > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Mail-Amusements.html Well that's pretty amazing. > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Eric Abrahamsen > wrote: > > > Ma

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread John Kitchin
Emacs anticipated this need and can help formulate comments specifically for the NSA :) https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Mail-Amusements.html John --- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mel

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Marcin Borkowski writes: > On 2015-04-27, at 12:27, John Kitchin wrote: > >> This might be a case where having a link type that supports attributes >> would come in handy. Then you could use these like PDF comments. In the >> list of PDF comments in Adobe Acrobat for example, there is a checkbox

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-04-27, at 12:27, John Kitchin wrote: > This might be a case where having a link type that supports attributes > would come in handy. Then you could use these like PDF comments. In the > list of PDF comments in Adobe Acrobat for example, there is a checkbox you > can use to check them off

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread John Kitchin
This might be a case where having a link type that supports attributes would come in handy. Then you could use these like PDF comments. In the list of PDF comments in Adobe Acrobat for example, there is a checkbox you can use to check them off when you are done with one. Of course, you have to stor

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-26 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
John Kitchin writes: > Very nice start! > > - make comment links a different color/face > (e.g. https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/blob/master/org-ref.el#L360) Ah, nice -- too bad there's no built-in way to specify a face for link types. This looks like it will do nicely, though! > otherwise,

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-26 Thread John Kitchin
Very nice start! - make comment links a different color/face (e.g. https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/blob/master/org-ref.el#L360) otherwise, I think item 4 is the most important one on the todo list. We are writing lots of papers this year, so this will be a really helpful tool! Eric Abrahamse

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2015-04-25 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Vikas Rawal writes: > >> On 25-Apr-2015, at 6:22 am, John Kitchin >> wrote: >> >> Inspired by this conversation, I hacked up this functional comment >> link: >> >> >> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2015/04/24/Commenting-in-org-files/ >>

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2015-04-25 Thread Eric S Fraga
John, thanks for this. Very nice. And I can use my preferred LaTeX annotation with it easily. -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.50.1, Org release_8.3beta-1062-gce4e64

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-25 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Vikas Rawal writes: > On 25-Apr-2015, at 6:22 am, John Kitchin > wrote: > > Inspired by this conversation, I hacked up this functional comment > link: > > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2015/04/24/Commenting-in-org-files/ > > > It has a custom link type that

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Vikas Rawal
> On 25-Apr-2015, at 6:22 am, John Kitchin wrote: > > Inspired by this conversation, I hacked up this functional comment link: > > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2015/04/24/Commenting-in-org-files/ > > > It h

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
John Kitchin writes: > Inspired by this conversation, I hacked up this functional comment > link: > > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2015/04/24/Commenting-in-org-files/ > > > It has a custom link type that exports in html and latex, and when you > click on it, it asks if you want to delet

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread John Kitchin
Inspired by this conversation, I hacked up this functional comment link: http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2015/04/24/Commenting-in-org-files/ It has a custom link type that exports in html and latex, and when you click on it, it asks if you want to delete the comment. John ---

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2015-04-24 Thread Vikas Rawal
> > [...] > >> Why use footnotes when you can use todonotes? > > Good question! > > It's personal preference: I prefer footnotes as I am often using narrow > margins and anything more than a boxed footnote number is too > much... However, it is trivial to change the export template to use > to

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 24 Apr 2015 at 09:58, Marcin Borkowski wrote: [...] > Why use footnotes when you can use todonotes? Good question! It's personal preference: I prefer footnotes as I am often using narrow margins and anything more than a boxed footnote number is too much... However, it is trivial to

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-04-24, at 09:40, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Friday, 24 Apr 2015 at 11:49, Vikas Rawal wrote: >> I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of >> text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to >> be dealt with. >> >> What could be an the easy

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-04-24, at 08:42, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > Vikas Rawal writes: > >> I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of >> text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to >> be dealt with. >> >> What could be an the easy way of doing it? > > Bookmar

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 24 Apr 2015 at 11:49, Vikas Rawal wrote: > I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of > text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to > be dealt with. > > What could be an the easy way of doing it? I use inline tasks for this. If you

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Fabrice Niessen
Vikas Rawal wrote: > I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of > text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to > be dealt with. > > What could be an the easy way of doing it? Inserting `XXX' which are automatically highlighted in red? See "High

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2015-04-24 Thread Glyn Millington
Vikas Rawal writes: > I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of > text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to > be dealt with. > > What could be an the easy way of doing it? Just insert something like '' [1]at each place. The usual Emac

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Vikas Rawal writes: > >> I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text >> (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt >> with. >> >> What could be an the easy way of doing it? > > I use footnotes for this sor

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Vikas Rawal writes: > I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text > (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt > with. > > What could be an the easy way of doing it? I use footnotes for this sort of thing, but don't find it very id

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2015-04-23 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Vikas Rawal writes: > I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of > text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to > be dealt with. > > What could be an the easy way of doing it? > > Vikas Bookmarks? hth, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.

[O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-23 Thread Vikas Rawal
I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt with. What could be an the easy way of doing it? Vikas