Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment

2014-02-12 Thread Karl Voit
* Samuel Wales wrote: > perhaps this is possible: > > c-c ' -> c-c c-x ' If you are using US_intl with digraph (deadkeys) in order to type special characters, ' needs actually two keys: ' + SPACE So I guess this is not that great for common commands typed often a day. -- mail|git|SVN|photos|

Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment

2014-02-10 Thread Samuel Wales
perhaps this is possible: c-c ' -> c-c c-x '

Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment

2014-02-10 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Bastien wrote: > What do you think of `C-c :', as suggested in my reply to Thomas? I'd favor a common `C-c C-' prefix for all moved key bindings. Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban

Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment

2014-02-10 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz writes: > I'd think you need to curl the pinky at least unless you're talking > about a laptop keyboard with a favorable position for the Ctrl key. > > It's really a bad thing if you've developed certain types of RSI and may > even be impossible if you have coordinative disabilities o

Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment

2014-02-10 Thread Bastien
Karl Voit writes: > In fact, I never use the original left CTRL key at all. And more or > less thanks to bad habit, I never use the right CTRL key. Yep, I'm exactly in the same boat. -- Bastien

Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment

2014-02-09 Thread Karl Voit
* Achim Gratz wrote: > Bastien writes: >> Samuel Wales writes: >> >>> remember: using >>> one hand for both modifier and key is never an option. >> >> Why? For me C-c C-' is very easy with one hand, I don't even >> need to move the fingers. > > I'd think you need to curl the pinky at least unles

Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment

2014-02-09 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> remember: using >> one hand for both modifier and key is never an option. > > Why? For me C-c C-' is very easy with one hand, I don't even > need to move the fingers. I'd think you need to curl the pinky at least unless you're talking about a laptop ke

Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment

2014-02-09 Thread Samuel Wales
rsi. one of the worst things you can do is use a single hand for more than one key. On 2/9/14, Bastien wrote: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> remember: using >> one hand for both modifier and key is never an option. > > Why? For me C-c C-' is very easy with one hand, I don't even > need to move t

Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment

2014-02-09 Thread Bastien
Samuel Wales writes: > remember: using > one hand for both modifier and key is never an option. Why? For me C-c C-' is very easy with one hand, I don't even need to move the fingers. -- Bastien

Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment (was: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3)

2014-02-09 Thread Samuel Wales
hi karl, it is true that there are assumptions about the user's environment. the strongest is probably qwerty, followed by european language, english, and common layouts. as a native english speaker, i am aware that i am fortunate in that regard. i get to use utf-8 without making my text files l

Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment

2014-02-09 Thread Karl Voit
* Rasmus wrote: > Karl Voit writes: > >> Personally, I do think that tech-savvy users of non English speaking >> countries should definitely consider switching to US_intl layout for >> many reasons. > > What if the set of letters in English is a subset of the set of > letters in your the tech-s

Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment

2014-02-09 Thread Rasmus
Karl Voit writes: > Personally, I do think that tech-savvy users of non English speaking > countries should definitely consider switching to US_intl layout for > many reasons. What if the set of letters in English is a subset of the set of letters in your the tech-savvy users language? > From

Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment

2014-02-09 Thread Karl Voit
* Bastien wrote: > Hi Karl, Hi Bastien! > Karl Voit writes: > >> So: what are these assumptions for Emacs/Org-mode? I guess this is >> the root question we should try to answer (and document). > > Well, this is a general Emacs issue. Sure. > I guess the assumption is that keybindings are op

Re: [O] Assumptions on user's environment

2014-02-09 Thread Bastien
Hi Karl, Karl Voit writes: > So: what are these assumptions for Emacs/Org-mode? I guess this is > the root question we should try to answer (and document). Well, this is a general Emacs issue. I guess the assumption is that keybindings are optimized for US keyboards layouts - that said, some c

[O] Assumptions on user's environment (was: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3)

2014-02-09 Thread Karl Voit
* Samuel Wales wrote: Hi! > i meant that c-c c-' and c-c c-" are both cumbersome for those users > who press c-c by holding down the control key with the right hand and > then pressing c with the left hand. c-c ' is not cumbersome for those > users. Oh, this is a sensitive subject :-) For exa