hi karl, it is true that there are assumptions about the user's environment. the strongest is probably qwerty, followed by european language, english, and common layouts. as a native english speaker, i am aware that i am fortunate in that regard. i get to use utf-8 without making my text files larger, unlike some asian speakers, for example.
HOWEVER: my point was not about the user's environment at all. it applies to whatever environment is chosen for the assumptions. on qwerty, c is on the lhs. ' is on the rhs. /that/ is why c-c c-' is more cumbersome for using two hands for modifiers. remember: using one hand for both modifier and key is never an option. === hope that clarifies. samuel On 2/9/14, Karl Voit <devn...@karl-voit.at> wrote: > * Samuel Wales <samolog...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi! > >> i meant that c-c c-' and c-c c-" are both cumbersome for those users >> who press c-c by holding down the control key with the right hand and >> then pressing c with the left hand. c-c ' is not cumbersome for those >> users. > > Oh, this is a sensitive subject :-) > > For example: I am happily removing CAPS LOCK on all of my computers > and replace it with an additional CTRL key. This way, I am using my > left pinkie for all kinds of CTRL-combinations. As long as it is not > combined with [`123q~] or TAB, I am fine. > > And: although I am living in a German speaking country, I am using > US_intl keyboard settings. Most keyboard shortcuts make more sense > since I switched. Unfortunately, software developers who define > keyboard shortcuts have either settle for their own keyboard layout > (mostly en_US) or keyboard shortcuts are part of the i18n layer > which has also some drawbacks IMHO. > > The point is: when you are settling for keyboard shortcuts, you are > going to do some assumptions on the environment of your users. So: > what are these assumptions for Emacs/Org-mode? I guess this is the > root question we should try to answer (and document). > > -- > mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: > > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs < > > https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on > github > > > -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. ANYBODY can get it. Denmark: free Karina Hansen NOW.