Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-06 Thread Samuel Wales
Hi Bernt, Optional. Samuel -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. ANYBODY can get it.

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-06 Thread Bernt Hansen
Samuel Wales writes: > I don't recall whether I said I had a filling problem. > > Filling is a red herring for my use case. > > My point is that regardless of filling, it would be a good idea to be > stricter about what a list is, for the reasons I listed. In my use > case. > > Samuel Hi Samuel

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-06 Thread Michael Strey
Bastien writes: 4. Define that lists alway have to have a newline in front of them. >> >> I presume Michael means blank line. I like this. > > Mhhh... I don't. Yes, I meant blank lines and after rethinking I don't like it either. My reason for not liking them is the LaTeX exporter. The

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-04 Thread Samuel Wales
Hi Bastien, On 6/4/13, Bastien wrote: >> On 6/3/13, Carsten Dominik wrote: 4. Define that lists alway have to have a newline in front of them. >> >> I presume Michael means blank line. I like this. > > Mhhh... I don't. Perhaps can be optional the way alphabetic lists and numbered list typ

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-04 Thread Bastien
Hi Samuel, Samuel Wales writes: > On 6/3/13, Carsten Dominik wrote: >>> 4. Define that lists alway have to have a newline in front of them. > > I presume Michael means blank line. I like this. Mhhh... I don't. >>> 5. Define that lists always have to be indented. > > I like this also, and hav

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-03 Thread Alan L Tyree
Carsten Dominik writes: > Hi everyone. > > As far as I can see, the filling code is already pretty smart about this > issue. The question is then: What else can we do about it. > After doing some analysis of my problems last night, I agree that filling is not the issue. All of the instances t

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-03 Thread Samuel Wales
Hi Carsten, On 6/3/13, Carsten Dominik wrote: >> 4. Define that lists alway have to have a newline in front of them. I presume Michael means blank line. I like this. >> 5. Define that lists always have to be indented. I like this also, and have long wanted c-c - on a region to indent the resu

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-03 Thread Carsten Dominik
On 3 jun. 2013, at 11:54, Michael Strey wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Just for completeness > > Carsten Dominik writes: > > [...] > >> Possibilities: >> 1. We could change the parser to ignore lists where the first >> item does not start with `1.' or `a)'. But this would >> be a pretty ser

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-03 Thread Michael Strey
Hi everyone, Just for completeness Carsten Dominik writes: [...] > Possibilities: > 1. We could change the parser to ignore lists where the first >item does not start with `1.' or `a)'. But this would >be a pretty serious change. > > 2. We could implement a good function that could fi

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-03 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi everyone. As far as I can see, the filling code is already pretty smart about this issue. The question is then: What else can we do about it. Possibilities: 1. We could change the parser to ignore lists where the first item does not start with `1.' or `a)'. But this would be a prett

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-02 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 03/06/13 15:40, Samuel Wales wrote: I don't recall whether I said I had a filling problem. Filling is a red herring for my use case. My point is that regardless of filling, it would be a good idea to be stricter about what a list is, for the reasons I listed. In my use case. Samuel You'r

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-02 Thread Samuel Wales
I don't recall whether I said I had a filling problem. Filling is a red herring for my use case. My point is that regardless of filling, it would be a good idea to be stricter about what a list is, for the reasons I listed. In my use case. Samuel -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-02 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 03/06/13 12:17, Nick Dokos wrote: Alan L Tyree writes: Indeed, an exercise which I have already done in the form of a lisp function to catch the nasty little numbers at the beginning of lines. For the earlier exporter, I used this to insert non-printing spaces, export, then remove non-prin

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-02 Thread Nick Dokos
Alan L Tyree writes: > Indeed, an exercise which I have already done in the form of a lisp > function to catch the nasty little numbers at the beginning of lines. > > For the earlier exporter, I used this to insert non-printing spaces, > export, then remove non-printing space. Far from elegant :-

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-02 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 03/06/13 07:40, Nick Dokos wrote: Alan L Tyree writes: So: my problem is that somehow the '137.' got at the head of a line. I have no idea how that happened. I inserted references in this document using reftex, so I suppose that is one source to investigate. The other source is, no doubt,

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-02 Thread Nick Dokos
Alan L Tyree writes: > So: my problem is that somehow the '137.' got at the head of a line. I > have no idea how that happened. I inserted references in this document > using reftex, so I suppose that is one source to investigate. > > The other source is, no doubt, cut and paste. > > In a 60+ pag

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-02 Thread Alan L Tyree
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > Alan L Tyree writes: > >> Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> >>> Alan L Tyree writes: >>> I have also been bedeviled by this problem. In a long manuscript it is all too common. Here is a real example of a footnote and its HTML expor

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-02 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Completing myself: Additionally, you may want to try the following patch (against maint branch), which takes a slightly different approach for filling. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou >From 0b3480cf161d58cbf0bd337fd1a7fabbe2aae0c3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Nicolas Goaziou Date: Sun, 2 Jun 20

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-02 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Alan L Tyree writes: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: > >> Hello, >> >> >> Alan L Tyree writes: >> >>> I have also been bedeviled by this problem. In a long manuscript it is >>> all too common. Here is a real example of a footnote and its HTML >>> export: >>> >>> === >>> >>> [fn:79] Some co

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-01 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 02/06/13 06:18, Samuel Wales wrote: In case it helps: I can say that I never, ever, no matter what, and there are no exceptions - make a list like this I always - make a list like this (I happen also to always indent by 2 spaces) IIRC, org-list-allow-alphabetical is default nil largely

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-01 Thread Samuel Wales
In case it helps: I can say that I never, ever, no matter what, and there are no exceptions - make a list like this I always - make a list like this (I happen also to always indent by 2 spaces) IIRC, org-list-allow-alphabetical is default nil largely to avoid making a list. IMO doing so by r

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-01 Thread Samuel Wales
Perhaps we can make a formal feature request that the user be able to specify (in an option) that a list must have a blank line preceding it? I realize Nicolas's opinion is different. Samuel -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com The disease DOES progress. MANY people hav

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-06-01 Thread Alan L Tyree
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > > Alan L Tyree writes: > >> I have also been bedeviled by this problem. In a long manuscript it is >> all too common. Here is a real example of a footnote and its HTML >> export: >> >> === >> >> [fn:79] Some commentators have questioned whether it is an >

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-05-31 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Alan L Tyree writes: > I have also been bedeviled by this problem. In a long manuscript it is > all too common. Here is a real example of a footnote and its HTML > export: > > === > > [fn:79] Some commentators have questioned whether it is an > 'exception'. The argument is that it is

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-05-31 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 01/06/13 03:01, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: Hello, Samuel Wales writes: The 30 and the - get exported as lists. As they should. === paragraph. Emily died at age 30. New sentence. paragraph - the list is long. === Filling If filling creates this, then this is a bug. Could you provide

Re: [O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-05-31 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Samuel Wales writes: > The 30 and the - get exported as lists. As they should. > === > paragraph. Emily died at age > 30. New sentence. > > paragraph > - the list is long. > === > > Filling If filling creates this, then this is a bug. Could you provide an ECM for this? > and yanki

[O] [html] non-lists showing up as lists

2013-05-31 Thread Samuel Wales
The 30 and the - get exported as lists. === paragraph. Emily died at age 30. New sentence. paragraph - the list is long. === Filling and yanking can create lines like those. Perhaps this is intended behavior? If so, is there a way to change it so that it requires a blank line before every li