Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial

2021-06-01 Thread Shane Kerr
Hugo, While I find it a pity that the consensus seems to be that just including the serial instead of the entire SOA is the best way forward, I don't strongly object, since it can indeed be useful for debugging as proposed. Sorry if I missed earlier discussion, but if a query to a resolver

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial

2021-06-01 Thread Shane Kerr
Tim, On 28/05/2021 16.26, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > We had a lot of good discussion of this draft when it first came out, > and the chairs want to put up a call for adoption. I support adoption of the draft, and am willing to contribute text and review. Cheers, -- Shane OpenPGP_0x3732979CF9

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial

2021-06-01 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 08:59 +0200, Shane Kerr wrote: > And maybe cache the value if desired? I'm already looking forward to having serials in resolver cache dumps! > At the very least, maybe the draft should be agnostic towards > non-authoritative servers? > > So instead of: > > This EDNS

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial

2021-06-01 Thread Hugo Salgado
On 13:20 01/06, Peter van Dijk wrote: > On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 08:59 +0200, Shane Kerr wrote: > > And maybe cache the value if desired? > > I'm already looking forward to having serials in resolver cache dumps! > > > At the very least, maybe the draft should be agnostic towards > > non-authoritat

Re: [DNSOP] The DNSOP WG has placed draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2021-06-01 Thread Hugo Salgado
Hi Peter. Just wanted to comment on one issue below: On 21:27 28/05, Peter Thomassen wrote: > 2.) NSID option > --- > The draft says, RRSERIAL helps "recognize the origin of an answer" > (supposedly when secondaries are out of sync). > > There already is a way to do that, using the N

Re: [DNSOP] The DNSOP WG has placed draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2021-06-01 Thread Peter Thomassen
Hi Hugo, On 6/1/21 4:19 PM, Hugo Salgado wrote: 2.) NSID option --- The draft says, RRSERIAL helps "recognize the origin of an answer" (supposedly when secondaries are out of sync). There already is a way to do that, using the NSID option (RFC 5001). It works as a part of another

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial

2021-06-01 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Hugo, On 1 Jun 2021, at 10:05, Hugo Salgado wrote: > On 13:20 01/06, Peter van Dijk wrote: > >> I like this. I suspect defining it well for answers from resolvers to >> clients would open up a big can of worms that could kill the draft, >> like many other drafts that have been crushed under