Re: [DNSOP] Interim Meeting on Special Names and RFC 6761

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[DNSOP] Yet another thought on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology

I'd been forgetting to mention this outside my head. I suggest a section describing names give to messages. Query Response Referral CNAME Referral Update Update response AXFR IXFR Priming query ...just to name a few that I can think of off the top of my head (meaning, the list is questionable).

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology-01.txt

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 07:28:21PM +, Edward Lewis wrote: > #ccTLD -- A TLD that is allocated to a country. Historically, these > #were two-letter TLDs, and were allocated to countries using the two- > #letter code from the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 standard [ISO3166]. In > #recent years, there have

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology-01.txt

economy and economycode is a useful concept sometimes. it avoids the CN/TW issue. and encompasses HK. state or territory can be useful. covers some of the intermediate things. eg much of the CIS is a 'transitional state' according to the UN. iso-3166 encompasses non-state entities, AP is reserved

[DNSOP] Terminology: country

On Apr 30, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 07:28:21PM +, Edward Lewis wrote: >> #ccTLD -- A TLD that is allocated to a country. Historically, these >> #were two-letter TLDs, and were allocated to countries using the two- >> #letter code from the ISO 3166-

Re: [DNSOP] Yet another thought on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology

On Apr 30, 2015, at 5:45 AM, Edward Lewis wrote: > > I'd been forgetting to mention this outside my head. > > I suggest a section describing names give to messages. > > Query > Response > Referral > CNAME Referral > Update > Update response > AXFR > IXFR > Priming query > > ...just to name a f

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology needs to define "label"?

On Apr 29, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Apr 29, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: >> I'm suggesting a new definition in Sec. 2, as follows: >> >> "Label -- The portion of a domain name at each node in the tree making up a >> fully-qualified domain name" > > Works for me.

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology needs to define "label"?

On Apr 30, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Lyman Chapin wrote: > > > On Apr 29, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > >> On Apr 29, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: >>> I'm suggesting a new definition in Sec. 2, as follows: >>> >>> "Label -- The portion of a domain name at each node in the tree ma

Re: [DNSOP] Interim Meeting on Special Names and RFC 6761

This is very cool -- thanks to whoever arranged it Do we know if there will be a conference phone / polycom type thing? W On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 4:55 AM, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote: > Jaap Akkerhuis writes: > > Oops, wrong message went out. > > > Tim Wicinski writes: > > > > > This is a mul

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology needs to define "label"?

On Apr 30, 2015, at 11:22 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Apr 30, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Lyman Chapin wrote: >> >> >> "Label - The identifier of an individual node in the sequence of nodes that >> comprise a fully-qualified domain name." > > This looks even better to me. Other opinions welcome. +1

Re: [DNSOP] Interim Meeting on Special Names and RFC 6761

Jaap Akkerhuis was the Arranger of the room. I Initially thought a polycom type thing could cause a muddle of voices. But I'm willing to listen to reason and logic. tim On 4/30/15 11:23 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: This is very cool -- thanks to whoever arranged it Do we know if there will

Re: [DNSOP] Terminology: country

On Apr 30, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Apr 30, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 07:28:21PM +, Edward Lewis wrote: >>> #ccTLD -- A TLD that is allocated to a country. Historically, these >>> #were two-letter TLDs, and were allocated to

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology needs to define "label"?

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:14:24AM -0400, Lyman Chapin wrote: > > "Label - The identifier of an individual node in the sequence of nodes that > comprise a fully-qualified domain name." > I am not sure this is quite right, or if it is it's circular with the other definitions in RFC 1034. 1034 s

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology needs to define "label"?

On Apr 30, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:14:24AM -0400, Lyman Chapin wrote: >> >> "Label - The identifier of an individual node in the sequence of nodes that >> comprise a fully-qualified domain name." >> > > I am not sure this is quite right, or if i

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology-01.txt

Quoting Andrew Sullivan on Thursday April 30, 2015: | > | > "Country" is a loaded term. I don't have a better suggestion in mind but | > there are many instances where a ccTLD is a territory, etc. I don't mean | > to open a rathole, just point this out. | | If we changed this to say, "A TLD tha

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology-01.txt

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 04:34:15PM +, Kim Davies wrote: > Also note that not all ccTLDs are two-letter codes pulled from the > standard. With the advent of IDN ccTLDs, the domain itself is not > derived from the ISO 3166-1 standard, only whether a particular > geographic entity has standing to

Re: [DNSOP] Interim Meeting on Special Names and RFC 6761

Tim Wicinski writes: > Jaap Akkerhuis was the Arranger of the room. Too much honour. I was indeed arranging a room (for somthing else) and then Kaveh Ranjbar suggested to arrange a room for dnsop as well. > > I Initially thought a polycom type thing could cause a muddle of > voices. But I

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology needs to define "label"?

I think these definitions are missing the fact that domain names and the labels that comprise them can be spoken about abstractly and exist apart from the actual domain name space. For example, the domain name that appears in the question section of a DNS message may or may not exist in the actual

Re: [DNSOP] Interim Meeting on Special Names and RFC 6761

On 4/30/15, 11:23 AM, "Warren Kumari" wrote: >The RIPE staff has been very nice and made a room available at RIPE-70 >: > > Meerman I/II for ~30 people on Tuesday 12 May 18:00- 20:00 Amsterdam > > Jaap Very cool. Do we need to sign up? Alain. smime.p7s

Re: [DNSOP] Terminology: country

> On Apr 30, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > On Apr 30, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 07:28:21PM +, Edward Lewis wrote: >>> #ccTLD -- A TLD that is allocated to a country. Historically, these >>> #were two-letter TLDs, and were allocated

Re: [DNSOP] Terminology: country

On 4/30/15, 14:18, "Bill Woodcock" wrote: >But we can acknowledge the complexity, and use some word other than >“country” to describe how the Internet uses these codes. Agreeing with Woody, when I started the rathole, that is what I had in mind. I realize that some feel that this is a petty, ni