On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 07:28:21PM +0000, Edward Lewis wrote:
> #ccTLD -- A TLD that is allocated to a country.  Historically, these
> #were two-letter TLDs, and were allocated to countries using the two-
> #letter code from the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 standard [ISO3166].  In
> #recent years, there have been allocations of TLDs that conform to
> #IDNA2008 ([RFC5890], [RFC5891], [RFC5892], [RFC5893], and [RFC5894]);
> #these are still treated as ccTLDs for policy purposes.
> 
> "Country" is a loaded term.  I don't have a better suggestion in mind but
> there are many instances where a ccTLD is a territory, etc.  I don't mean
> to open a rathole, just point this out.

If we changed this to say, "A TLD that is allocated using the UN
country list using the the two-letter code from the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2
standard [ISO3166]," would that address your concern?

> Might as well also list sTLD for sponsored.  Technically there is no
> difference, it's all in the way the registry has been instituted.

ICANN's own policies don't actually seem to enforce the sTLD/gTLD
distinction, and nobody ever mentions sTLDs, so I'd as soon leave it
out.

> I never thought NODATA meant NOERROR, just simply an empty answer section.

NODATA comes with a NOERROR header, or it's not a NODATA response.

> # 6.  Zones
> 
> #Parent -- The domain in which the Child is registered.  (Quoted from
> #[RFC7344], section 1.1) Earlier, "parent name server" was defined in
> #[RFC0882] as "the name server that has authority over the place in
> #the domain name space that will hold the new domain".
> 
> Speaking from personal experience, I'd use "delegated" and not registered.
>  In my world, there is a distinction in what is "registered" and what is
> "delegated."  I don't mean to derail this into a registry vs. DNS
> operations discussion, just saying that the term "registered" means
> something different in a field (registration of domain names and internet
> numbers) very close to DNS.

We want to cleave to the quoted documents, but do you wnat us to add
discussion about the distinction between "registration" and
"delegation"?  There's in fact a distinction also with "allocation",
but I'm not sure it belongs here.

> #Delegation -- The process by which a separate zone is created in the
> #name space beneath the apex of a given domain.  Delegation happens
> #when an NS RRset is added in the parent zone for the child origin,
> #and a corresponding zone apex is created at the child origin.
> #Delegation inherently happens at a zone cut.
> 
> I agreed up until "and a corresponding..."  Once the parent creates the
> zone cut, the delegation is made.  The distinction is that in the world of
> operations, the child's servers may be unavailable (down or cut off the
> net).  The delegation is still there, no one can confirm the
> "corresponding" stuff mentioned here.

Hmm, this is an interesting point.

> Vice versa, once the parent removes
> the NS set, the delegation is removed regardless of what the child
> "thinks."

Well, effectively maybe not.  If a resolver "sticks" on the child,
then the delegation won't move regardless.

> #Referrals -- ...  Historically, many
> #authoritative servers answered with a referral to the root zone when
> #queried for a name for which they were not authoritative, but this
> #practice has declined.
> 
> Not declined - seen as a vulnerability and removed from code.

That's one kind of decline, isn't it?

A

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Andrew Sullivan
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