[DNSOP] Re: Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-06 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
[Warning, this seems an issue for the IPR WG, not for dnsop.] On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:02:57PM +, Paul Vixie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 27 lines which said: > anyone who is going to submit proposals for dns technology should > not include encumbered IPR. This leaves open the

Re: [DNSOP] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-dnsop-reverse-mapping-considerations-03.txt

2007-06-06 Thread Ralf Weber
Moin! On 05.06.2007, at 17:15, Andrew Sullivan wrote: Would adding a note in the Security Considerations section to the following effect address this issue for you: To the extent that the DNS Security Extensions make DNS results more reliable, deployment of the DNS Security Exte

Re: [DNSOP] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-dnsop-reverse-mapping-considerations-03.txt

2007-06-06 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 01:02:28PM +0200, Ralf Weber wrote: > On 05.06.2007, at 17:15, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > >Would adding a note in the Security Considerations section to the > >following > >effect address this issue for you: [. . .] > Well the intent was more to have it under 4.2 to encou

[DNSOP] Re: Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-06 Thread Paul Vixie
> > anyone who is going to submit proposals for dns technology should > > not include encumbered IPR. > > This leaves open the issue of futile patents. If we decide "We will > never standardize a technology for which there is a patent somewhere > in the world, no matter how futile it is", then, we

Re: [DNSOP] Proposed text for reverse-mapping-considerations draft

2007-06-06 Thread Dean Anderson
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Dean Anderson wrote: > > > > The group has repeatedly rejected the claims in the draft that "you > > > just edited" once it is detailed how the draft supports discredited > > > claims. > > > > I am not sure what your evidence is for this claim (especially since > > we have see

[DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-as112-under-attack-help-help-00

2007-06-06 Thread Andrew Sullivan
Dear colleagues, I have read the document draft-ietf-dnsop-as112-under-attack-help-help-00. These are my (somewhat late) comments. In general, I believe it to be a good document that provides information to users who may know nothing about the AS112 Project. I particularly like that it goes to

[DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-default-local-zones-01

2007-06-06 Thread Doug Barton
Howdy, I finally had a chance to take a serious look at this draft with an eye toward implementing its recommendations for FreeBSD's default name server configuration, and noticed that it isn't quite in final form, so I decided to take a crack at improving the text. Along the way I have some addit

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-06 Thread Thierry Moreau
Andrew Sullivan wrote: So, if you've filed an IPR disclosure, please let's hear about it It's done. See https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_detail_show.cgi?&ipr_id=856 Regards, -- - Thierry Moreau CONNOTECH Experts-conseils inc. 9130 Place de Montgolfier Montreal, Qc Canada H2M

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-06 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Thierry Moreau wrote: Andrew Sullivan wrote: So, if you've filed an IPR disclosure, please let's hear about it It's done. See https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_detail_show.cgi?&ipr_id=856 Can there be a clarification as to if "implementor" extends to any user of

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-06 Thread Thierry Moreau
Dear dnsop participants: Mr. Paul Vixie made an off-topic post which falls into the IPR rathole category. Being personally attacked, I take the liberty to povide background information to dnsop participants, with the hope that Mr. Paul Vixie's bias is better understood. I'm not a wgchair or any

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-default-local-zones-01

2007-06-06 Thread William F. Maton Sotomayor
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Doug Barton wrote: I think this also opens up a question about the motivation for this draft. Is it primarily to reduce spurious traffic to the roots and/or AS112 (certainly a noble goal, don't get me wrong), or is it primarily to aid operators in configuring helpful defaults

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-06 Thread Thierry Moreau
william(at)elan.net wrote: On Wed, 6 Jun 2007, Thierry Moreau wrote: Andrew Sullivan wrote: So, if you've filed an IPR disclosure, please let's hear about it It's done. See https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_detail_show.cgi?&ipr_id=856 Can there be a clarification as to if "i

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-06 Thread bmanning
> >Anyone who is > >going to submit proposals for dns technology should not include encumbered > >IPR. > > This is an ideology statement. Patents apply in very diversified fields > of human activity. In the case of DNS, according to public records, > Verisign filed patent applications in the provi

Re: [DNSOP] Adopt draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming as WG work item?

2007-06-06 Thread Ted Lemon
On Jun 6, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Thierry Moreau wrote: Blindly following the above ideology will result in less and less RFCs, hence less network standardization and/or standardization made by entities other than the IETF. Actually, what would result in fewer and fewer RFCs would be people paten

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-default-local-zones-01

2007-06-06 Thread Mark Andrews
> Howdy, > > I finally had a chance to take a serious look at this draft with an > eye toward implementing its recommendations for FreeBSD's default name > server configuration, and noticed that it isn't quite in final form, > so I decided to take a crack at improving the text. Along the way I >

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-07

2007-06-06 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Sullivan) writes: > I note that in section 2.2.3, we have this: > >A zone's name servers should be reachable by all IP transport >protocols (e.g., IPv4 and IPv6) in common use. > > I have read differing opinions on whether it is better to have > protocol-dedi

[DNSOP] Copies of Drafts for draft-ietf-dnsop-inaddr-required?

2007-06-06 Thread Dean Anderson
The datatracker doesn't have these drafts. (why not?) Does anyone have copies of each draft? I'm trying to chart the draft claims and the discussions and disputes, so that I can easily respond to assertions regarding the current incarnation of this draft. Thanks, --Dean -- Av8

Re: [DNSOP] Copies of Drafts for draft-ietf-dnsop-inaddr-required?

2007-06-06 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Dean Anderson wrote: The datatracker doesn't have these drafts. (why not?) Does anyone have copies of each draft? I'm trying to chart the draft claims and the discussions and disputes, so that I can easily respond to assertions regarding the current incarnation of this draft