Re: [DNSOP] RFC 2181 - a pathway forward.

2015-07-10 Thread Suzanne Woolf
Bill, In the interests of keeping things simple: Do you have substantive changes to RFC 2181 to propose for WG consideration at this time? If so-- please provide the list with pointers to the relevant internet-drafts. If not-- I hope that when you do have substantive changes to suggest, you'l

Re: [DNSOP] RFC 2181 - a pathway forward.

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <97edc878-847a-4ff3-809a-09606bebf...@karoshi.com>, manning writes: > > > On 10July2015Friday, at 13:12, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: > > > > >> On Jul 10, 2015, at 1:31 PM, manning wrote: > >> > >> I am aware of at least three of the independent ideas in RFC 2181 > that folks are worki

Re: [DNSOP] RFC 2181 - a pathway forward.

2015-07-10 Thread manning
On 10July2015Friday, at 13:12, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: > >> On Jul 10, 2015, at 1:31 PM, manning wrote: >> >> I am aware of at least three of the independent ideas in RFC 2181 that >> folks are working on: >> >> draft-pfrc-2181--naming-issues-00 >> draft-pfrc-2181-handling-zone-cuts-00

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , David Conrad writes: > Andrew, > > On Jul 10, 2015, at 5:52 AM, Andrew Sullivan > wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 03:53:22PM +, Alain Durand wrote: > >> > >> - RFC6761 does not say anything wrt to coordination between IETF and > ICANN > >> on this topic. > > > > Or with regar

Re: [DNSOP] RFC 2181 - a pathway forward.

2015-07-10 Thread Olafur Gudmundsson
> On Jul 10, 2015, at 1:31 PM, manning wrote: > > I am aware of at least three of the independent ideas in RFC 2181 that folks > are working on: > > draft-pfrc-2181--naming-issues-00 > draft-pfrc-2181-handling-zone-cuts-00 (isn’t this the basis for the dbound > work?) > draft-pfrc-2181-reso

Re: [DNSOP] RFC 2181 - a pathway forward.

2015-07-10 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:31 AM, manning wrote: > Ok, so that is four. The rational for eight is so that nothing gets lost > and we can garbage collect RFC 2181, moving it to historic. > Then each idea can progress independently, without the linkage to any of the > other work and without the vest

Re: [DNSOP] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse-01.txt

2015-07-10 Thread 神明達哉
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:20 AM, wrote: > Akira Kato and I submitted draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse-01. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse/ > > * Added reference to DLV {{RFC5074}} and imported some sentences. > * Added Aggressive Negative Cachi

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-roadblock-avoidance-02.txt

2015-07-10 Thread Rose, Scott W.
In general I support this document, with some minor comments below: Abstract: s/approache/approach Section 1.1 2nd paragraph: s/recomendations/recommendations "it" is repeated twice in the sentence starting: "While these recomendations are mainly aimed at Host Validators it it..." s/Valida

Re: [DNSOP] RFC 2181 - a pathway forward.

2015-07-10 Thread manning
I am aware of at least three of the independent ideas in RFC 2181 that folks are working on: draft-pfrc-2181--naming-issues-00 draft-pfrc-2181-handling-zone-cuts-00 (isn’t this the basis for the dbound work?) draft-pfrc-2181-resource-record-sets-00 draft-pfrc-2181-tc-bit-00 Ok, so that is fou

Re: [DNSOP] perspective Re: Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-10 Thread Edward Lewis
A re-ordering of the previous message happens here: On 7/9/15, 13:45, "DNSOP on behalf of hellekin" wrote: > *** Should IETF use social media to expand their reach? (@ietf? >@dnsopwg?) Oddly enough, ICANN does this, an in fact the ICANN staff includes a Communications Team whose job is to engag

Re: [DNSOP] RFC 2181 - a pathway forward.

2015-07-10 Thread Suzanne Woolf
Bill, On Jul 10, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: > Question: > What sections of 2181 do you see the need to update? This seems to be the critical question to your chairs and our AD as well. If I understand it correctly, your proposed document roadmap has us putting eight documen

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-10 Thread David Conrad
Andrew, On Jul 10, 2015, at 5:52 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 03:53:22PM +, Alain Durand wrote: >> >> - RFC6761 does not say anything wrt to coordination between IETF and ICANN >> on this topic. > > Or with regard to co-ordination between anyone else and the IETF. T

Re: [DNSOP] RFC 2181 - a pathway forward.

2015-07-10 Thread Olafur Gudmundsson
> On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:50 PM, manning wrote: > > With the WG Chairs permission. > > RFC 2181 is growing a both long in the tooth. It is, by its own admission, a > collection of eight distinct and independent ideas. As such, it is difficult > to work on one of > those ideas without raising

Re: [DNSOP] Thoughts on the top level name space

2015-07-10 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 03:53:22PM +, Alain Durand wrote: > > - RFC6761 does not say anything wrt to coordination between IETF and ICANN > on this topic. Or with regard to co-ordination between anyone else and the IETF. This is part of why I say the IETF retains the ability to take some names