On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 09:20:11PM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2016, Noel Torres wrote:
>
> > Just curious...
> >
> > Why not using CUPS ?
> >
> > I've been using it since times' night with no issues.
>
> I use CUPS and i'm intrigued by the thread.
>
> I have two printers, one at ho
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 06:07:45PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 19:46:26 +
> hellekin wrote:
>
> > This thread contains a lot of praise for Devuan. I want to ask you
> > whether it's fine to use it on devuan.org for promotion. You're
> > welcome to reply here. I'll contac
benefit in getting accustomed with
> something as complicated (looking) as CUPS for as long as I don't want
> more than to run some input file through a pipeline of filters (nowadays
> provided by the printer vendor) and then send it to some output device.
>
> Judging from the (incomple
On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 05:08:10PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote:
>
>
> On 04/23/2016 04:20 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
> >
> >On 04/22/2016 11:17 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> >>In my opinion there's no magic line where things on one side are window
> >>>managers and things on the other side are desktop environmen
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 02:48:24AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:08:10 +0900
> Simon Walter wrote:
>
> > On 04/23/2016 04:20 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
> > >
> > > On 04/22/2016 11:17 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> > >> In my opinion there's no magic line where things on one side are
> > >
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 11:00:21AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 24. April 2016 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> > > One more thing: I think this whole wm/de thing is a useless
> > > distinction that never should have been made.
> >
> > The point at which
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 02:14:37PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> If that's your definition, then there is indeed a clear line of
> demarcation. And that well may be the definition.
My definition is that a window manager is somethig that interacts with
X useing the protocols X sets aside for windo
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:21:50AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 04:01:33 +
> Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
>
> > I'd like to see a long term focus on removing the entanglement with
> > other invasive dependencies, particularly those which are likely to
> > be folded into system
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:17:23AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:59:54AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
> >
> > On 04/25/2016 06:44 AM, Mitt Green wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > >CMake is written in C++, too, and is big and slow.
> > >It's even worse than Autohell.
> > >
> > >Sorry for my
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 02:01:46AM +0100, David Hare wrote:
> On 26 April 2016 at 02:00, David Hare wrote:
> > I recently did a devuan-based install on a quite new Dell laptop.
> > Many things did not work properly (sound, wlan, touchpad). A newer
> > "backport" kernel sorted it all.
> >
> > On 2
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 02:08:33PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> It seems like everyone in the Devuan community has written his or her
> own usb drive automounter, and I've just discovered something that will
> help us all.
>
> The thumb drive you buy at the store is formatted with a Win
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 06:19:32PM -0400, fsmithred wrote:
> On 04/26/2016 03:36 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 02:08:33PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> It seems like everyone in the Devuan community has written his or her
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 01:27:08PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 08:25:02 -0400
> fsmithred wrote:
>
> > On 04/26/2016 09:32 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 18:19:32 -0400
> > > fsmithred wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> I like pmount for mounting usb devices. It's
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 07:24:29PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> Another issue is a lot of thumb drives have the same label. I bet there
> are millions with the label "backup".
And I'd like all my drives labelled "backup" to be mounted at the same
mountpoint so I can use one backup script for all
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 08:16:31PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:51:54 -0400
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 07:24:29PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > >
> > > Another issue is a lot of thumb drives have the same label. I
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 06:53:35AM +, Noel Torres wrote:
>
> Hughe Chung escribió:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I got to use -a option to search words on C code files.
> >
> >
> >$ grep tesselate dome_math.c
> >Binary file dome_math.c matches
>
> Is this only due to encoding, or may be due to a DOS/Unix
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 07:49:58PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:16:53 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 06:53:35AM +, Noel Torres wrote:
> >> Hughe Chung escribió:
> [...]
> >>> $ grep tesselate dome_math.c
>
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 07:13:51PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote:
> "This webpage is not available"
>
> Is anyone else seeing this? I'm in Taiwan, but that shouldn't matter. It
> occurred to me that maybe I should provide more details.
>
> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
> ReloadHide details
> The serve
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 03:36:04PM +0100, dev1fanboy wrote:
> Is it possibly using MTP for file transfers? They used to do plain
> usb-storage (which I prefered) but now it's all MTP. I use jmtpfs to mount
> mine.
I remember hearing that Androids are MTP devices, not USB storage.
-- hendrik
__
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 10:18:18AM -0500, Jim Murphy wrote:
> HI,
>
> Nice job on getting beta out - thanks to all.
>
> I know everyone is busy downloading and installing/upgrading,
> but as an FYI registration for devuan-announce[1] and
> devuan-discuss[2] has opened. The archive pages[3][4] ar
> SWS
> On Apr 29, 2016 11:13 AM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 03:36:04PM +0100, dev1fanboy wrote:
> > > Is it possibly using MTP for file transfers? They used to do plain
> > usb-storage (which I prefered) but now it's al
On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 05:00:37PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Jaromil writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > Can you come up with an alternative to 'cloud' which keeps generic,
> > since cloud-init is not openstack specific?
>
> Stormbringer?
I like this.
It's funny, for Michael Moorcock fans.
Arioch!
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 12:40:34PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> Hi All.
>
> I've completed the upgrade to Devuan Jessie Beta over Debian Jessie on
> both my laptop and desktop. Nice work!
>
> I use Network Manager on my laptop. It is configured for the networks I
> attach to most frequently an
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 07:56:09PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 12:40:34PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > Hi All.
> >
> > I've completed the upgrade to Devuan Jessie Beta over Debian Jessie on
> > both my laptop and desktop. Nice work!
&
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 12:49:44PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> On 02/05/16 12:01, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 07:56:09PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >> On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 12:40:34PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> >>> Hi All.
> >&g
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 01:19:40AM +0200, parazyd wrote:
> The current init system is old. Ancient. We should all agree on it.
> Devuan is looking for a new init system that is not systemd and my
> personal choice for this task from now on is Gentoo's OpenRC.
>
> In Debian, years ago, effort was m
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 07:31:35PM +0200, parazyd wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2016, Rob Owens wrote:
>
> > - Original Message -
> > > From: "parazyd"
> >
> > > On Tue, 03 May 2016, Rob Owens wrote:
> > >
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> > From: "KatolaZ"
> > >>
> > >> > But do w
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 02:16:55PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 3 May 2016 13:00:39 +0100
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 06:32:41AM -0500, Jim Murphy wrote:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> > >
> > > I know this is in the very early stages and where things go is
> > > still open to di
I noticed in
https://talk.devuan.org/t/migrating-from-debian-to-a-minimalist-devuan/181
that it recommends deb lines like
deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main
and
deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main
Shall I change them to auto.mirror.devuan.org?
Or does tha
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 10:52:01PM +, Go Linux wrote:
> On Tue, 5/3/16, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> Subject: [DNG] another instance of packages.devuan
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016, 3:36 PM
> >
> > I noticed in
> >
> > h
On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 11:23:05AM +, hellekin wrote:
> On 05/03/2016 06:05 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 May 2016 10:44:29 +
> > hellekin wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I want to call it "rabbit" or "Shub-Niggurath"
> >
> > I fear the latter name would not be well received in the United Sta
On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 08:10:40AM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > There's a special place in hell for people using ambiguous
> > abbreviations, acronyms, and nicknames.
>
> You mean, like the whole IT industry - and in fact pretty well any industry ?
> Such terms are routi
On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 09:45:24PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Stephanie Daugherty writes:
> > Process supervision is something I'm very opinionated about. In a number of
> > high availability production environments, its a necessary evil.
> >
> > However, it should *never* be an out of the bo
On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 07:49:04AM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> > But leaving these two general remarks aside, I don't quite understand
> > what you wanted to express.
>
> That "freedom of choice" is very important - as demonstrated by two posts
> setting out the reas
Debian is dropping suppoort for i586. It seems to mean tht the i386
platform will no longer run on 586 processors, as gcc starts to generate
instructions that are incalid there.
Currently this seems to be the case in sid, but it will probably propagate
through testing. People with only slight
On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 06:53:30PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Init freedom enthusiasts. About a month ago I adopted a puppy which
> took most of my free time as it was still too young. Initially, I had
> to feed it every 3 hours day and night with a syringe with the needle
> removed.
On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 06:04:32AM +, Noel Torres wrote:
>
> Vince Mulhollon escribió:
>
> >It'll hit the embedded world pretty hard.
> >
> >Today you can buy a brand new soekris box that only runs i586. Brand
> >new off the shelf, today. My 6 or 7 year old one is running right now
>
> Ve
On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 12:24:33PM +0100, David Hare wrote:
> > please test also the install and other functionalities
>
> OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on
> real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G
> ram.
>
> One glitch, simple
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:49:42AM -0500, Don Wright wrote:
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
> >On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 04:35:08PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> >> Can you use Alt+arrow keys to change consoles? Or qemu's sendkey
> >> feature?
> >>
> >
> >Oh, sure I can, and this is how I got around it. I w
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 09:27:43AM -0500, Linux O'Beardly wrote:
> Aren't Rasberry Pis configured with ARM procs? If so, would dropping i586
> support have any effect whatsoever on it?
No. An ARM is not a 586. It could be one of the debian platforms
whose name starts with 'arm', of which there
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 05:56:09PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 12 May 2016 16:29:56 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
>
> > I started this install last night, and it's still not finished. I've
> > installed Gentoo and Funtoo faster.
>
> There's something weird going on. It finally installed, I
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 09:40:04PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just installed the beta, in a VM, using the x64 DVD iso.
>
> In my opinion, the user interface was very pleasing. The faded purple
> is very relaxing. The fonts are all crisp and clear, even in a tiny VM.
> And I **LOVE**
On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 02:17:50PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Fri, 13 May 2016 10:37:20 -0400
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 09:40:04PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I just installed the beta, in a VM,
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 02:13:31PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Having handled many of the issues relating to init system
> to the point of being able to release Devuan jessie beta,
> I wonder if Devuan community is ready to support action on
> other scourges of the linux on personal computer
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 06:18:17PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:03:57 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > I would love a wayy to diable CAPSLOCK entirely. The few times I
> > actually need it I can hold the shift key down, but turing caps lock on
> >
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 06:48:26PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:37:54 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 06:18:17PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> >> On Thu, 19 May 2016 12:03:57 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >>
> >>> I would
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 11:22:35PM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> I followed the standard settings of the installer which leads me to
> have root and (a) user.
>
> Now, i know there are different philosophies about the use of sudo.
> Frankly, is there any relevant difference between 'sudo + c
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:29:30PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Rainer Weikusat writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation
>
> [*] It doesn't support lexical scoping.
That's what's old-fashioned about it. And there's some work on
changing
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:16:48PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit :
> >I have no use for a PDF
> >viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^)
> >___
>
> Indeed it does! I didn't even thought to
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 08:37:40AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
>
> Personally and daydreaming, on the longlong term :^) I'd rather
> appreciate an effort that ditches elisp alltogether, learning from the
> goods and bads of Emacs, and builds something on a more modern LISP
> interpreter like Guile2 or e
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 02:47:04PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Didier Kryn writes:
> > Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
> >> Rainer Weikusat writes:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>> Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation
> >> [*] It doesn't support lexica
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 08:40:37PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> ... and what the Lisp 1.5 FUNCTION was about was to enable solving the
> so-called 'upward funarg problem': Assuming a function is returned
> (passed upward) when evaluating an expression and later activated in a
> different cont
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 04:53:15PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:08:51 +0200, Irrwahn Grausewitz wrote:
> > I just filed an issue against the Devuan slim package,
> > requesting its removal from future Devuan releases.
>
> Just to prevent possible misunderstandings, some
> clar
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 03:22:01PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> The LISP "alist" implementation is, as we noted earlier, an
> example of the "deep access" approach". The "alist" contains
> pointers to previous values of all bound variables together with
> the variable
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 03:19:17PM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> Am Fri, 27 May 2016 12:00:01 +
> schrieb Didier Kryn :
>
> > Dear emninger, when you are finished more more than less, it would
> > be very valuable if you could give us a summary, like a simple howto,
> > because digging
On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 08:37:08PM +0100, dev1fanboy wrote:
>
> Also worth pointing out that lilo is without an upstream maintainer
> as of recently.
I'm happily using lilo to boot my server.
From a floppy, yet.
The nice thing about a floppy disk drive is that it has as many boot
records as y
On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 11:25:09PM +0200, Patrick Erdmann wrote:
> On 29.05.2016 22:42, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 08:37:08PM +0100, dev1fanboy wrote:
> >>
> >> Also worth pointing out that lilo is without an upstream maintainer
> >> as of
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 09:44:49AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
>
> Later on when I discovered GCC to be a mature compiler I switched to
> that and never left it ever after. I'm even wary of LVM and all its
Do you perhaps mean LLVM (low-level virtual machine) instead of LVM
(logical volume manater)?
I found this on Soylent News:
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=16/06/01/0347232
In it, Subsentient, the original author of the Epoch Init System, asks
what can be dome to improve it.
Maybe we have some advice.
(It wouldn't surprise me if subsentient is on this mailing list; I don't
know
On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 10:36:25PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 01:31:59PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > I admit I am just now starting down the rabbit hole of "understanding
> > init systems" ... so this may be a dumb question.
> >
> > Is it possible during setup
On Sun, Jun 05, 2016 at 03:58:45PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 05, 2016 at 10:38:33AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 10:58:37 +
> > hellekin wrote:
> >
> > > On 06/03/2016 10:42 PM, Florian Zieboll wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That said, I wonder, what information any
> >
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 10:43:41AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> I sometimes have to logout and login again to be able to kill
> wild threads of Icedove which survive in a blocked state after the
> windows have been closed. The idea to be able to kill all processes
> started in a session is no
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 01:58:22PM +0300, Jack L. Frost wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 02:22:29PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote:
> > Since Chung's new version is written in Python, wouldn't it be considered a
> > different piece of software? I don't think a re-write in another language of
> > somethi
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 04:57:06PM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> Am Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:36:05 +
> schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org:
>
> > > Would it be possible to package palemoon for devuan?
> >
> > Are there a reasons for that?
> >
> > I use palemoon myself on Devuan. Just downl
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 11:24:48AM -0400, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi Hellekin,
>
> I would like to use the following slogan for the beta of gnuinos:
>
> *DEVUAN POWERED*
>
> Did you use an existing typography for the logo of devuan or, on the
> contrary, is there a need for designing all the letters
On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 06:54:20AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> ..another new(?) step towards Debian systemd:
> linux-image-4.6.0-1[-rt]-amd-signed, with MSTF keys... :
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-4.6.0-1-rt-amd64-signed
> https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot
> https://b
On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 05:49:11PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 12/06/2016 17:08, Simon Hobson a écrit :
> >Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> >>How *do* we deal with secure boot? I am terrified of buying a new
> >>machine because I'm afraid I won't get to
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 08:37:29AM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 02:04:08 -0400 (EDT), Peter Olson wrote:
> > On June 14, 2016 at 1:43 AM Irrwahn wrote:
> >> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 00:37:59 -0400 (EDT), Peter Olson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This is why there is Iceweasel instead of Firefox.
>
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 04:59:55PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> BOOOM! I just halted your init by simply using #kill -TSTP 1.
I'm trying to figure out what -TSTP means.
The option(s) isn't listed in the man page.
The man page doesn't match the command. IN particular, the man page
tells me
kil
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:59:05AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> I think Edward's being sucked into a vortex of basics at lightning
> speed, and within a couple weeks will know as much about the basics
> necessary for Felker PID1 as you do (which would be twice what I know,
> I found your explanatio
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 07:59:09PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote:
>
> We are not so spoiled that we need to use a mouse for everything, are we?
>
Only on machines without keyboards. Is the X on-screen keyboard still
a thing?
-- hendrik
___
Dng mailing
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 04:55:40PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
>
> It's this arrogant attitude of "alright, got it, easy enough,
> now I'm gonna improve on it" without bothering to actually
> get to the bottom of even the basic concepts behind it, that
> brought us systemd and other crap. If you keep
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 07:48:11PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> I would say that nowadays things like:
>
> - Mounting filesystems
> - Configuring networking
> - Configuring consoles
> - Launching daemons for different services
> - Offering logins
>
> are all part fo what I consider "system initiali
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 09:35:17AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>
> You seem to work in a university's maths faculty. Can you explain to
> me this paradox?
>
> Consider Set I = {, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2 , 3, }, the set of
> Integers that is infinite in size having neither a lower bound nor
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:34:23PM -0400, Peter Olson wrote:
> > On June 23, 2016 at 10:48 AM Edward Bartolo wrote:
> > if (count > 0)
> > while(putchar(' ') && --count);
>
> I strongly recommend using the continue statement here:
>
> while(putchar(' ') && --count) continue;
>
> The
On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 01:21:33AM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:33:21 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> [...]
> > I often use continue and break, but every time I do, I make a mental
> > note that I'm decreasing modularity and thus reducing the scalability
> > of my code. Of course, I mi
THe most noticeable is that it shut doen dhcp to upgrade that package,
and when it had done so, it did not restart it again. I think this is a
bug.
Complaints from my wife. That's noticeable.
But on the off chance that there was some purpose in it, I did not
restart dhcp until the upgrade ha
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 07:49:35PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
...
>
> For the rest, there was a list of packages that had had errors at the
> end:
>
> Errors were encountered while processing:
...
> ppp
> pppoeconf
...
> lm-sensors
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpk
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 11:49:39AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 07:49:35PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> So I suppose deleting minidlna and rerunning upgrade would fix most if
> not all of these problems.
It did. Now all that remains is 'quota'.
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 06:36:25AM -0400, Peter Olson wrote:
> n 2016-06-29 06:00, Didier Kryn wrote:
> > Le 29/06/2016 11:54, Peter Olson a écrit :
>
> [..]
>
> >> They are talking about numbers, so the largest such number is the most
> >> negative.
> >>
> >> You might want to think about what
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 08:45:34PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
wrote:
> On 01.04.2015 21:26, Jude Nelson wrote:
> > Unlike systemd, you can easily get a working desktop system without
> > PulseAudio, even on Debian.
>
> Many applications depend on the pulseaudio client library (not
>
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 12:17:34PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 09:55:35PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > dev1fanboy wrote:
> > > Just want to point out Firefox ESR has now made it's way into Jessie,
> > > along with many bloaty features like pocket and eventually no XUL.
> >
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 06:18:28AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 04:40:30AM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
> wrote:
> > I'm currently packaging recent geeqie for Ubuntu Trustry
> > (which I'm still running on my notebook), and that leads me
> > to an interesting qu
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 05:48:24PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> My apologies, this was indeed confusing. I meant that GTK2->GTK3, despite
> increasing the version number, is a functionality downgrade.
>
> It's worse in all areas of usability I've noticed, it breaks programs that
> use it almo
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 06:22:02PM +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> Hendrik Boom writes:
> >One thing I'm wondering about with GTK3 -- does GTK3 have the annoying
> >16-bit limitation on pixel counts? That has bitten me with GTK2. It
> >severely limits one's scrol
On Sat, Jul 02, 2016 at 08:00:40AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 02/07/2016 03:08, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit :
> >apropos widget toolkits:
> >
> >I'm currently hacking my own tiny widget toolkit, primarily targetted
> >for embedded systems (for now only DRM-FB, X and Wayland coming
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:36:14PM -0400, Peter Olson wrote:
>
> Can I download your compiler that fixes all my mistakes? I could really use
> such a tool.
Yes, as a matter of fat you can -- almost.
Two languages I use have the property that once the program gets
through the compiler, almost
On Sun, Jul 03, 2016 at 07:24:04PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 17:17:35 -0400
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:36:14PM -0400, Peter Olson wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Can I download your compiler that fixes all my mis
On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 06:32:38AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 03/07/2016 23:17, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
> >On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:36:14PM -0400, Peter Olson wrote:
> >
> >>Can I download your compiler that fixes all my mistakes? I could really
> >>use su
On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 10:44:47AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 04/07/2016 19:25, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
> >On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 06:32:38AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> >> Ada also. BTW, Ada is considered a descendant of Pascal, which is a
> >>descendant of Alg
On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 08:16:12AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 08:54:12AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > It seems the interest to give me feedback about what I am studying and
> > coding is dwindling rapidly. Nevertheless, I am coding a parser in C.
> > I have alr
On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 07:03:36AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 06:26:35AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Since any grammar item has boundaries it makes sense for a syntax
> > checker to pass boundaries to syntax checking functions. The first
> > step would be to
On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:05:29PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 11:48:25AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > >
> > > I am not asking because I want to be pedantic, but rather because this
> > > is usually where parsing con
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 09:16:40AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> hi Ozi
>
> yes please wait till next release, we are heavy on the rewriting ATM
> also it has been moved and modularized, latest is here
>
> https://git.devuan.org/groups/sdk
>
> but its not finished so I don't recommend trying it.
What
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 12:33:43PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> I don't use Slackware because their package manager won't figure out
> dependencies for me, causing me to need 10x the time to install some
> things (and I install a lot of stuff --- did I ever mention I write
> books for a living?).
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 05:59:55PM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 09:16:40AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> > > hi Ozi
> > >
> > > yes please wait till next release, we are heavy on the rewriti
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:19:03PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:00:55 -0400
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > But now that you appear to write books on Linux, may I ask what
> > software you use to do it?
>
> The only book I write about Linux is a "Le
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:40:50PM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> Hi Arnt!
>
> Am Mon, 11 Jul 2016 19:07:56 +
> schrieb Arnt Karlsen :
>
> > >
> > > I don't use Slackware because their package manager won't figure out
> > > dependencies for me, causing me to need 10x the time to install
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 08:45:09PM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
>
> I have no time now to recall all the analysis :^( plus for other
> reasons I'm typing approx 2000 words per day and its becoming sort of
> taxing on my hands.
Congratulations!
If you'd call all that a novel and do it during November yo
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 10:41:36PM +0200, Dragan FOSS wrote:
>
> Can you explain what is the *essential difference* between
>
> Pin-Priority: -1 for systemd packages
> in /etc/apt/preferences
>
> and
> ...
> banpkgs: systemd,systemd-sysv
> ...
> part of amprolla.conf ?
Not much difference in it
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