Re: [Dng] No way to use a prepartioned disk?

2015-03-01 Thread fsmithred
> > On 03/01/2015 04:41 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:> On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at > 05:44:47PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: >>> I tried using the valentine installer on a disk that already had three >>> primary partitions and a lot of empty space. >> >> In case it's relevant, I was using the expert instal

Re: [Dng] Finding systemd

2015-03-10 Thread fsmithred
I installed squeeze about a week ago, from the xfce/lxde CD-1. Took the default desktop install and added a bunch of stuff. This is what I get: # locate systemd /usr/include/jack/systemdeps.h Which is part of jackd, not systemd. And this: # apt-cache policy systemd N: Unable to locate package

Re: [Dng] greetings & how to help

2015-03-17 Thread fsmithred
On 03/17/2015 09:56 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > I tried the Vagrant on my Wheezy box the day the Vagrant image came out, > and it errored out with some VirtualBox error. I forgot the error, and > don't have enough time to whip it into working shape. Are there any > instructions for using Vagrant with Q

Re: [Dng] Live ISO's (Jessie with no systemd)

2015-04-13 Thread fsmithred
Hi Richard, I'm pretty sure David used a refracta jessie-sysv iso and built on that All the refracta jessie-sysv builds started as a standard-system wheezy installation, then pinned "*systemd*" to -1 (do not install anything with systemd anywhere in its name) and pinned libpulse0 and dbus to wheez

Re: [Dng] Live ISO's (Jessie with no systemd)

2015-04-13 Thread fsmithred
On 04/13/2015 03:00 PM, Richard wrote: > Thanks Fred, > David's snapshot is working very well for the most part. > A real credit to it's Refracta base. Couple of questions: > > 1. fstab is 0 bytes? But seems to work. > Where is the info kept, in Jessie? > It's a live iso. No disks to mount. The

Re: [Dng] Live ISO's (Jessie with no systemd)

2015-04-14 Thread fsmithred
Sorry, I gave incorrect information. This was a fresh build. I knew that and forgot about it. fsr > On 13/04/15 19:41, fsmithred *erroneously* wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure David used a refracta jessie-sysv iso and built on that On 04/13/2015 08:29 PM, David Hare wrote: >

Re: [Dng] Live ISO's (Jessie with no systemd)

2015-04-16 Thread fsmithred
On 04/16/2015 09:37 AM, David Hare wrote: > Don't know why but some of my posts didn't seem to make the mailing list > properly so will try again! Make sure you click "Reply List" and not "Reply". I've done that a couple times. > > On 13/04/15 13:57, David Hare wrote: >> On 13/04/15 06:19, Franc

[Dng] upgrade problem

2015-06-07 Thread fsmithred
I tried to do a dist-upgrade or full-upgrade on devuan today, and I'm running into a problem: bsdutils : Breaks: bash-completion (< 1:2.1-4.1~) but 1:2.1-4 is installed. util-linux : Breaks: bash-completion (< 1:2.1-4.1~) but 1:2.1-4 is installed. But the newer version of bash-completion is not

Re: [Dng] upgrade problem

2015-06-07 Thread fsmithred
On 06/07/2015 08:31 PM, David Hare wrote: > > root@exe-jessv:/# apt install bash-completion > > WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface yet. Use with caution in > scripts. > > Reading package lists... > Building dependency tree... > Reading state information... > The following packages

Re: [Dng] upgrade problem

2015-06-08 Thread fsmithred
On 06/08/2015 05:48 AM, Franco Lanza wrote: >> >> I upgraded and let bash-completion go, lost completion on package names, >> and then I installed 1:2.1-4.1 from ascii on Irrwahn's recommendation, and >> it seems to be working fine. >> >> fsr > > > Actually the issue is fixed as i have upgraded t

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread fsmithred
On 06/11/2015 02:17 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: > Hi Clarke, > > Can you: > * give us a listing of which systemd packages are installed (something like > "aptitude search systemd | egrep ^i")? > * use "apt-cache rdepends" to show us which packages depend on them? > > Thanks, > Jude > Not the OP h

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread fsmithred
On 06/12/2015 09:33 AM, Irrwahn wrote: > fsmithred wrote on 12.06.2015 14:40: >> >> Not the OP here, and not exactly what you're asking, but here's what I did >> yesterday: >> >> Installed devuan-alpha2-amd64 netinstall iso in virtualbox. At tasksel, I &g

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread fsmithred
On 06/12/2015 10:45 AM, Irrwahn wrote: > When there's a /lib/systemd/systemd-logind, then not all the systemd > packages were purged properly. :-) Anyway, IIRC dimkr is already working > on a fix for the logind/consolekit clash. Yeah, I know. That file was gone after I removed the systemd pack

Re: [DNG] Proposed defaults changes

2015-07-21 Thread fsmithred
On 07/16/2015 04:11 AM, Jaromil wrote: > > for instance we may have refractalinux for a good devuan based live, or > dynebolic for multimedia studio, or centurionlinux (made up thinking of Dan) > for a good server base. Devuan should serve well as a reliable base for all > those, as this is exa

Re: [DNG] Stupid LVM conflict

2015-08-14 Thread fsmithred
If you just need to transfer the data to the new installation, attach the external drive to a different machine and rsync it. Boot with live media if you have the same problem on the other machine. fsr On 08/14/2015 09:13 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:41:06PM +1200, Daniel

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-08-27 Thread fsmithred
On 08/26/2015 01:08 PM, Go Linux wrote: > On Wed, 8/26/15, Steve Litt wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015, 11:31 AM > > On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 > 12:58:14 +0200 > Svante Signell > wrot

Re: [DNG] Where to find the latest Devuan that runs under Qemu?

2015-08-27 Thread fsmithred
On 08/27/2015 09:38 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Where can I find and download the latest Devuan capable of being run on > Qemu (I assume this means an ISO, unless someone knows another way to > do it). > If you mean live-ISO, I made one today from an up-to-date alpha2-amd64 netinstall installation

Re: [DNG] Where to find the latest Devuan that runs under Qemu?

2015-08-27 Thread fsmithred
On 08/27/2015 08:47 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:23:43 -0400 > fsmithred wrote: > >> On 08/27/2015 09:38 AM, Steve Litt wrote: >>> >>> Where can I find and download the latest Devuan capable of being >>> run on Qemu (I assume this mean

Re: [DNG] Where to find the latest Devuan that runs under Qemu?

2015-08-28 Thread fsmithred
Here's a synopsis of changes I made in devuan to create the live iso. In the installation that was used to create the iso, I changed the debian grub boot splash to the red vulcan devuan boot spash, but I forgot to do that in the iso. fsr --- Added live-boot live-config live-config-sysvinit li

Re: [DNG] The show goes on: “su” command replacement merged into systemd on Fedora Rawhide

2015-08-29 Thread fsmithred
On 08/28/2015 11:00 AM, Michael Bütow wrote: > Article here: > > https://tlhp.cf/lennart-poettering-su/ > > I for one look forward to not having any of this madness one day when I > transition completely to Devuan! > su --> machinectl shell Obviously, too many people were getting root too ea

[DNG] netman, ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured

2015-09-06 Thread fsmithred
d auto lo iface lo inet loopback allow-hotplug wlan0 # I added this line iface wlan0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid my-essid wpa-psk "my-secret-password" Running devuan/angband/exegnu/jessie -fsmithred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] netman, ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured

2015-09-07 Thread fsmithred
p 7 09:21 /run/network/.ifstate.lock Deleting the lockfile doesn't help. There's no backend command for connecting eth0, so I can't get any terminal output. -fsmithred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] netman, ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured

2015-09-07 Thread fsmithred
et me know my mistake. (Thanks, I like error messages.) -fsmithred On 09/07/2015 10:30 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > The command to connect to eth0 is a new addition. Use the following: > > ./backend 9 eth0 > > Please note that netman, the frontend does not assume which device

Re: [DNG] [DN Offlist G] netman GIT project

2015-09-14 Thread fsmithred
Having 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp' in /etc/network/interfaces causes no problem if there is no wireless interface, but it might cause a problem if someone already has wlan0 configured. I guess I should test that, too. (Need to reboot for that.) If netman is going to inject that line into the interface

Re: [DNG] [DN Offlist G] netman GIT project

2015-09-14 Thread fsmithred
nected, it can disconnect, and if I reconnect, I get an ip address in the dhcp range. I didn't test it with wireless encryption turned off. -fsr On 09/14/2015 06:59 AM, fsmithred wrote: > Having 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp' in /etc/network/interfaces causes no > problem if t

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

2015-09-26 Thread fsmithred
FYI, ./ps_mem.py |grep netman 8.5 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 9.9 MiB netman ./ps_mem.py |grep wicd 6.7 MiB + 1.2 MiB = 7.9 MiB wicd-monitor 8.4 MiB + 858.5 KiB = 9.2 MiB wicd 14.6 MiB + 2.1 MiB = 16.8 MiB wicd-client And the 9.9 used by netman is recovered by cl

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

2015-09-26 Thread fsmithred
Ed, if you're taking requests for features, I've got some... 1. netman --help (to show what command line options exist) 2. If the config file will accept a definition for an interface other than wlan0 or eth0, a commented example showing the correct syntax would help. And while you're thinking ab

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

2015-09-26 Thread fsmithred
Ed, if you're taking requests for features, I've got some... 1. netman --help (to show what command line options exist) 2. If the config file will accept a definition for an interface other than wlan0 or eth0, a commented example showing the correct syntax would help. And while you're thinking ab

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

2015-09-28 Thread fsmithred
@Edward and David: Don't know if this is helpful or if you've already seen it... Here's how the new network interface naming scheme works (or is supposed to work): http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ From that page: "By default, systemd v197 will n

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

2015-09-28 Thread fsmithred
I'm talking about the LAN address. A lot of times, one of the first things I do after booting into a new system is use sftp to move files. Also, with wicd, I've gotten used to seeing the local address, and I feel like it's a more reliable indicator that I'm online than just the word, Connected. Bu

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

2015-09-28 Thread fsmithred
ot;? Please, > forgive me to ask again, but I have to be certain to avoid writing > code in vain. > > On 28/09/2015, fsmithred wrote: >> I'm talking about the LAN address. A lot of times, one of the first things >> I do after booting into a new system is use sftp to move

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

2015-09-29 Thread fsmithred
Sure. Clicking on "Connected" would be fine. If possible, having it displayed on a second, below "Connected" without having to click, and in smaller type would be ok, too, but I'm guessing that's not as easy to code or might cause problems with the layout (spacing). I don't understand your last se

Re: [DNG] What can I do after netman?

2015-09-29 Thread fsmithred
t as easy to >>> code >>> or might cause problems with the layout (spacing). >> I will provide a small button next to "Connected". Using a hotlink may >> require one to use a mouse. >> >>> I don't understand your last sentence. What

Re: [DNG] netman: support for wlan1, wlan2, ... and eth1, eth2, .... and new systemd's naming scheme

2015-10-01 Thread fsmithred
. It won't disconnect my static connection, but if I disconnect manually, then netman will connect and disconnect correctly. fsr On 10/01/2015 01:16 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi fsmithred, > > Please, take a look at this screenshot of the GUI modifications to > support network inte

Re: [DNG] netman: support for wlan1, wlan2, ... and eth1, eth2, .... and new systemd's naming scheme

2015-10-05 Thread fsmithred
I can't tell from the pictures exactly what the flow is from one window to another, but if it works out such that you can select the interface from a list and have it auto-fill the interface name in the window that asks for it, then you'll have one-up on wicd, which makes you type the interface nam

Re: [DNG] netman: support for wlan1, wlan2, ... and eth1, eth2, .... and new systemd's naming scheme

2015-10-06 Thread fsmithred
One connection at a time should be enough for anyone. (Or they can edit their interfaces file.) If you're already getting a list of devices to display, couldn't you just verify that the chosen device matches one of those names? I don't know what it's like to test for illegal characters in the lang

Re: [DNG] netman: support for wlan1, wlan2, ... and eth1, eth2, .... and new systemd's naming scheme

2015-10-07 Thread fsmithred
a pain in the ass in bash. >> >> Yes, it is a good idea. List the available devices using ip link, >> extract a list of available network interfaces, and verify that the >> devices loaded from netman.default.devices is a valid device. >> >> Edward >> >&g

Re: [DNG] two miscommunications about refracta and live-build

2015-10-08 Thread fsmithred
util-linux upgrade. -fsr On 10/08/2015 10:30 AM, Godefridus Daalmans wrote: > First, about fsmithred from refracta: I simply wasn't aware that somebody > had already done this. Sorry fsmithred. I don't keep good track of the > developments. > > Is there something li

Re: [DNG] About the experimental live DVD

2015-10-08 Thread fsmithred
On 10/08/2015 09:18 AM, Godefridus Daalmans wrote: > I made this DVD to help people like me to begin somewhere. Feedback is > welcome. > > Now if you like I can upload it somewhere tonight (slow connection here in > the sticks). Any legal tips on how to do proper attribution to Devuan, > Marillat

Re: [DNG] netman: support for wlan1, wlan2, ... and eth1, eth2, .... and new systemd's naming scheme

2015-10-10 Thread fsmithred
bin/netman: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error" >> Does it need to be compiled on sid to run on sid? > > I presume yes. > > Edward > > On 07/10/2015, Edward Bartolo wrote: >> fsmithred, the backend still needs to be modified for those ch

Re: [DNG] Git pushed latest changes to backend and netman GUI.

2015-10-12 Thread fsmithred
It's working, mostly. I can switch the default interface between wlan0 and wlan1 through the gui, and it connects correctly, but disconnect only works with wlan0. With wlan1, it says it's disconnecting, but it doesn't succeed. -fsr On 10/11/2015 05:44 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > I have

Re: [DNG] Git pushed latest changes to backend and netman GUI.

2015-10-12 Thread fsmithred
Doh! I tried changing wlan0 to wlan1 in /etc/network/wifi/, but I didn't think to change it in /etc/network/interfaces. Rebooting now to test it. -fsr On 10/12/2015 10:50 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi fsmithred, > > I have just seen the code for disconnect and it looks it shou

Re: [DNG] Git pushed latest changes to backend and netman GUI.

2015-10-12 Thread fsmithred
Confirmed. Naming the correct interface fixed it. iface wlan1 inet dhcp -fsr On 10/12/2015 10:50 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi fsmithred, > > I have just seen the code for disconnect and it looks it should work > even for wlan1. There is a good indication the problem is caus

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

2015-11-11 Thread fsmithred
On 11/11/2015 12:37 AM, dev1fanboy wrote: > Ok, so for those who have been paying attention so far, I am missing some > information. > > Specifically it would be nice to confirm which branches work for the > upgrade. So far the following is known to work: > > Debian Wheezy > Devuan Jessie > Debia

Re: [DNG] Problems of Devuan installer (Alpha2) I experinced.

2015-11-16 Thread fsmithred
On 11/16/2015 06:55 AM, janpeng...@riseup.net wrote: > > On 'Guided - use the largest continous free space', how dose it know the > free space on the hard disk which is already partitioned? > In this case, "free space" refers to un-partitioned space. It does not refer to free filesystem space

Re: [DNG] How to integrate devuan-installer in an existing devuan based system

2015-11-21 Thread fsmithred
On 11/21/2015 07:27 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > "How to integrate devuan-installer in an existing devuan based system" Nice howto. Not too long - just the right length. Is there a devuan-installer package, or are we just using the debian installer? > > Install the following packages: > > root@de

Re: [DNG] Pushed my debianized netman sources.

2015-12-13 Thread fsmithred
On 12/12/2015 04:58 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > I git pushed my debianized netman sources although I cannot claim they > are perfect as I lack experience as a packager, but this is my little > contribution to the project. > > Edward > ___ Edwar

Re: [DNG] 'No choice' not limited to systemd's reach

2015-12-15 Thread fsmithred
> Thanks for reminding me about apulse. I remember a discussion either on the > list or irc recently. I'll try it if it ever gets into the devuan repos or > someone builds a deb for me. I haven't tried installing something from > source in years and IIRC, wasn't that successful at it. I onc

Re: [DNG] nmap in Debian Wheezy

2015-12-22 Thread fsmithred
On 12/22/2015 06:54 AM, Emiliano Marini wrote: > I wanted to install nmap in one of my systems for testing purposes, and > when I run "apt-get install namp" it tries to pull 73 dependencies WTF? > Here's what my wheezy says: apt-cache depends nmap nmap Depends: libc6 Depends: libgcc1 Depend

Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite

2015-12-30 Thread fsmithred
On 12/29/2015 09:30 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I installed LXDE into my devuan alpha 2 system, but I do not know how > to ask for it. My system boots into a green login screen and when I log > in it starts me off with xfce instead. In the old days when I ran > Debian, it would start with a logi

[DNG] Wheezy lvm upgrade to devuan

2016-01-14 Thread fsmithred
Just for the record... I did a standard system install of wheezy on encrypted lvm, then added xorg and xfce4 (full metapackages) and not much else. Changed sources to devuan jessie and added the avoid-systemd pin, ran 'apt-get update' and added the devuan keyring, then ran 'apt-get dist-upgrade'

Re: [DNG] How stable is the devuan migration?

2016-01-19 Thread fsmithred
I did an upgrade of wheezy to devuan jessie last week, and it was uneventful. It seemed easier than any major upgrades of debian that I've done in the past. Boring description is here - https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20160114.194903.4e35c189.en.html fsr On 01/19/2016 06:59 AM, Nuno Magalh

Re: [DNG] Are my messages delivered?

2016-01-30 Thread fsmithred
On 01/27/2016 04:05 PM, Teodoro Santoni wrote: > Hi, > > 2016-01-27 17:11 GMT+01:00, Mitt Green : >> I am using Yahoo!Mail as well, and wonder, whether my emails >> are delivered. > > Your emails are delivered into my spam folder. > Anything I try to get them anywhere else ends with your emails >

Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me

2016-01-31 Thread fsmithred
On 01/31/2016 05:57 AM, Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 08:23:50 +0300 > Mitt Green wrote: >> Avoiding libsystemd0 without angband.pl repos is >> not possible yet though. > > Yes, it is. I was a bit surprised myself when I checked my Jessie > laptop again some days ago, but it is doe

Re: [DNG] Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-02 Thread fsmithred
On 02/02/2016 08:05 AM, Simon Hobson wrote: > Exposing my ignorance here, what would need to write to the EFI stuff ? That > article quotes someone as saying mounting it read-only would break some > userspace stuff - so what would it break and why does it need to write there ? > Not having actual

Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

2016-02-03 Thread fsmithred
On 02/03/2016 05:48 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > What about: "nm-pitbull" in honour of the trolls? :D > The cat lovers among us might prefer Netmanx. Or... Edbarx Netmanx. fsr ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cg

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-05 Thread fsmithred
On 02/05/2016 01:20 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 5 Feb 2016 18:33:44 +0100 > Didier Kryn wrote: > >> People have always expected rm -rf / to destroy the OS. They >> also know that, from the keyboard, with root priviledge, they can >> destroy the partition table of the disk. All this is re

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-05 Thread fsmithred
On 02/05/2016 08:48 PM, Joel Roth wrote: > Didier Kryn wrote: >> >> The ability to brick the motherboard is brand new. Therefore admins >> should be seriously protected and warned against this eventuality, at least >> until it percolates into the general culture. > > IIUC, this means malware w

[DNG] Frontend to pmount

2016-02-09 Thread fsmithred
dd to /etc/sudoers.d/ for this. With a few changes, it'll work (mostly) with zuluMount instead of yad|zenity. Depends: pmount, hwinfo, yad|zenity Recommends: inotify-tools yad for jessie is available here - http://debs.slavino.sk/files-testing.php Comments and suggestions

Re: [DNG] Frontend to pmount

2016-02-12 Thread fsmithred
On 02/12/2016 12:04 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > > On 02/09/2016 03:02 PM, fsmithred wrote: >> I was inpired by Steve Litt's amounter, but I prefer a semi-automatic. And >> I wanted an easy clicky way to use pmount. So I recycled some code from >> refracta2usb and added

Re: [DNG] My virtual terminals seem amiss

2016-03-07 Thread fsmithred
On 03/07/2016 09:40 AM, dev wrote: Hello, I noticed today, upon trying to rebuild my nvidia module, that I have no login available on the virtual terminals customarily available via the keypress [CTRL][ALT]+(F1-F8 keys). And this is /proc/cmdline. Nothing odd in there either: BOOT_IMAGE=/

Re: [DNG] Download iso 32bit devuan alpha2 or higher(based installation without network)

2016-04-02 Thread fsmithred
little different from what you get with the official Devuan alpha releases, but it's still xfce, and it only uses Devuan repositories. For those who are more daring or want a minimalist approach, Devuan debootstrap is installed, and you can start from scratch an

Re: [DNG] Download iso 32bit devuan alpha2 or higher(based installation without network)

2016-04-02 Thread fsmithred
On 04/02/2016 02:33 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 13:30:05 -0400 > fsmithred wrote: > > >> For those who are more daring or want a minimalist approach, Devuan >> debootstrap is installed, and you can start from scratch and build it >> the w

Re: [DNG] Download iso 32bit devuan alpha2 or higher(based, installation without network)

2016-04-03 Thread fsmithred
On 04/03/2016 01:16 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > > On 04/03/2016 02:00 PM, Steve Litt wrote: >>> For those who are more daring or want a minimalist approach, Devuan >>> >debootstrap is installed, and you can start from scratch and build it >>> >the way you want. >> Isn't Devuan Debootstrap a chroot ins

Re: [DNG] useradd defaults

2016-04-03 Thread fsmithred
On 04/03/2016 08:05 PM, Boruch Baum wrote: > > 1] /etc/default/useradd. I don't know that I have easy access to a > default debian image or /etc/default/useradd file in order to compare > with my expectations, which were: > > HOME=/home > INACTIVE=-1 > SHELL=/bin/bash > SKEL=/etc/skel > CREATE_MA

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

2016-04-20 Thread fsmithred
On 04/20/2016 08:51 AM, BohwaZ wrote: > > I use https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse > > There is a debian package which contains two binaries (by > Nikolay Romanov, but I can't seem to find the package anymore?): > > This program provides the PulseAudio emulation for ALSA. > Usage: > $ apulse3

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

2016-04-25 Thread fsmithred
On 04/24/2016 04:46 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Aren't there two icewms, which differ in that they have different > capital letter in their names? One of which has more stuff than the > other? In the days when I used Debian, there was definitely more tham > one icewm on the desktop/wm menu. >

Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

2016-04-25 Thread fsmithred
On 04/25/2016 11:17 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > > On 04/25/2016 04:54 PM, fsmithred wrote: >> You need to have gvfs installed if you want an icon to pop up on the >> desktop when you plug in a usb drive. You can have xfce without gvfs. I'm >> not sure about the other de

[DNG] backports priority

2016-04-26 Thread fsmithred
The priority on backports is set to 990. Please, could that be decreased to prevent accidental flooding of backports packages during an upgrade? In wheezy the priority is 100, so you only get what you ask for (and its deps, I think.) Should I file this as an issue at git.devuan.org? Thanks, fsr _

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

2016-04-26 Thread fsmithred
On 04/26/2016 03:36 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 02:08:33PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> It seems like everyone in the Devuan community has written his or her >> own usb drive automounter, and I've just discovered something that will >> help us all. >> >> The thumb

Re: [DNG] Fwd: mpv from devuan.org/merged is broken

2016-04-26 Thread fsmithred
On 04/23/2016 06:40 AM, David Hare wrote: > Purging the -dmo packages and replacing with current repo ones, > without something going horribly wrong, was not simple. Now sorted > like this: > > # get list of installed "-dmo" packages > dpkg -l|grep "\-dmo"|grep "^ii"|awk '{print $2}'|sed 's/:.*//'

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

2016-04-26 Thread fsmithred
On 04/26/2016 07:19 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Root, as usual, us trusted to know what it is doing. > OK, thanks. I just had a Homer Simpson moment. Steve's intent was to make it possible for users to *write* not mount. I used to do something similar, but with the uid instead of the gid. Using

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

2016-04-27 Thread fsmithred
On 04/26/2016 09:32 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 18:19:32 -0400 > fsmithred wrote: > > >> I like pmount for mounting usb devices. It's pretty smart. For >> removable devices, you don't need to list them in /etc/pmount.allow, >> and it h

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

2016-04-27 Thread fsmithred
On 04/27/2016 01:27 PM, Steve Litt wrote: >> >> That's pretty much what my usb-mounter does. Inotifywait runs when >> you log into the desktop, and when you plug in a thumb drive, it pops >> up a window showing you the partitions on that device. You then >> choose one to mount, and the script runs

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

2016-04-27 Thread fsmithred
On 04/27/2016 08:16 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:51:54 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 07:24:29PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >>> >>> Another issue is a lot of thumb drives have the same label. I bet >>> there are millions with the label "backup". >> >> A

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

2016-04-28 Thread fsmithred
On 04/27/2016 08:28 PM, fsmithred wrote: > > You could get the label from lsblk, do 'pmount label' and it will be > mounted at /media/label. Every time you plug in a thumb drive labeled > backup, it'll go to the same place. If you unmount the drive, /media/label >

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

2016-05-02 Thread fsmithred
unprivileged user to get the labels, I'll add it. Feel free to use these scripts as they are or as motivation to create something better. -fsr On 04/28/2016 01:52 PM, fsmithred wrote: > On 04/27/2016 08:28 PM, fsmithred wrote: >> >> You could get the label from lsblk, do 'pmo

[DNG] Could not resolve 'mirror.cc.columbia.edu'

2016-05-02 Thread fsmithred
I've been having trouble installing beta due to packages not downloading. This was with the netinstall, the CD and the DVD. Tonight, I couldn't do a debootstrap install because some packages wouldn't download. Also can't do update/upgrade of existing installation for same reason. This error has co

Re: [DNG] Could not resolve 'mirror.cc.columbia.edu'

2016-05-03 Thread fsmithred
On 05/03/2016 04:54 AM, Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 03/05/16 20:28, Jaromil wrote: >> On Mon, 02 May 2016, fsmithred wrote: >> >>> I've been having trouble installing beta due to packages not >>> downloading. This was with the netinstall, the CD and

Re: [DNG] Fwd: For all you automounter programmers

2016-05-03 Thread fsmithred
On 05/03/2016 09:34 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 03/05/2016 14:48, hellekin a écrit : >> On 05/03/2016 12:16 PM, Jim Murphy wrote: >>> Problem, blkid uses a cache that is only updated when root runs blkid. >>> Any changes are not automatically updated. A user only sees the cache. >>> >>> The issues

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

2016-05-03 Thread fsmithred
On 05/03/2016 08:46 AM, Jim Murphy wrote: > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: >> Le 03/05/2016 14:06, Jim Murphy a écrit : >>> >>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: >>>> >>>> Le 02/05/2016 14:12, fsmithred a éc

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

2016-05-04 Thread fsmithred
On 05/04/2016 05:58 AM, Boruch Baum wrote: > On 2016-05-02 08:12, fsmithred wrote: >> No support for file system labels at this time. If someone can tell me a >> reliable way for unprivileged user to get the labels, I'll add it. Feel >> free to use these scripts as th

Re: [DNG] For all you automounter programmers

2016-05-04 Thread fsmithred
Someone said they wanted a non-gui way to mount removable devices by label. Here it is. Let me know if it works for you or not. (It's working well here.) I'll add support for labels in the gui pmounter, too. https://gist.github.com/fsmithred/81a4e1585175c377c32ed2f670ab

Re: [DNG] Default purpy desktop theme

2016-05-04 Thread fsmithred
On 05/04/2016 11:20 AM, Go Linux wrote: > Evidently the default purpy desktop graphics didn't make it into the beta. > :( You can find the purpy wallpaper here (among all the others): > > https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/desktop-base/tree/master/backgrounds > > And it looks like the purp

[DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-07 Thread fsmithred
snapshot' from a root terminal. See /usr/lib/refractasnapshot/snapshot_exclude.list and /etc/refractasnapshot.conf for configuration options. - fsmithred@May 6, 2016 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-07 Thread fsmithred
On 05/07/2016 03:33 PM, Jim Murphy wrote: > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 1:53 PM, parazyd wrote: >> On Sat, 07 May 2016, fsmithred wrote: >> >>> If someone want to see what Devuan-Jessie beta looks like without >>> installing it, I made some live isos. I expect tha

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-07 Thread fsmithred
On 05/07/2016 03:39 PM, Go Linux wrote: > Earlier today fsr suggested I use the 9.3.3 version to make a snap of Devuan. > Not quite sure where it is on SF. > > golinux Yeah, if the primary user's name is not user, then the username= option needs to be in the boot command line. I added username=d

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread fsmithred
On 05/07/2016 08:36 PM, David Hare wrote: > > http://refracta.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=569 > SPOILER ALERT!!! For anyone who didn't follow the link that David provided. David, Thanks for posting instructions on creating a grub entry to boot the iso directly from hard drive without v

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread fsmithred
On 05/08/2016 07:24 AM, David Hare wrote: >> please test also the install and other functionalities > > OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on > real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G > ram. > > One glitch, simple to fix.. on first b

Re: [DNG] Fwd: live-boot is marked for autoremoval from testing

2016-05-08 Thread fsmithred
On 05/08/2016 01:18 AM, Ozi Traveller wrote: > FYI !!! > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Debian testing autoremoval watch > Date: Sun, May 8, 2016 at 2:39 PM > Subject: live-boot is marked for autoremoval from testing > To: live-b...@packages.debian.org > > > live-boot 1:20151

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread fsmithred
On 05/08/2016 08:24 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > So I google etc/slim.conf to fid out what it is, and on the first link > I find > Warning: The SliM project has been abandoned (the project homepage is > down, leaving a github mirror), > > That's on the archwiki > > https://wiki.archlinux.org

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread fsmithred
On 05/08/2016 07:24 AM, David Hare wrote: >> please test also the install and other functionalities > > OK, I just did (step 1, the installer). Writing from my new install on > real hardware. The installation took 6 minutes on an old core2 with 2G > ram. > > One glitch, simple to fix.. on first b

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread fsmithred
Someone asked me about uefi support in the live iso. Answer: No uefi support in the live isos I released. I repacked the amd64 iso adding /boot and /efi folders from a solydx iso, as described here - http://refracta.freeforums.org/post5007.html#p5007 Also added current grub-efi debs to the offli

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan live images

2016-05-08 Thread fsmithred
On 05/08/2016 10:33 PM, Joel Roth wrote: > Go Linux wrote: >> On Sun, 5/8/16, Joel Roth wrote: >> Piggybacking onto this thread, I'd like to have a live >> distro to demo for friends who are still bombarded with >> hateful Windows popups. Ideally with heavy-weight apps such >> as libreoffice, fire

Re: [DNG] Never again

2016-05-12 Thread . fsmithred
Steve, Did you figure out how to get the DVD to install from the DVD, or did you not notice that you were doing a netinstall? (or is beta2 out already?) Your computer has enough RAM to go around? 4096 is around 10 times what you need. Xfce will come up and work fine with 250mb (until you want to

Re: [DNG] devuan-sdk

2016-05-12 Thread . fsmithred
provided for people wanting to >> prepare custom isos with custom packages. Please note we have >> modularised the whole setup so now there is: >> >> - devuan-sdk : local chroot and package build (TODO refactor) >> - vm-sdk : takes any iso (also devuan-sdk) and build vari

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Beta Live Minimal -- UPDATE

2016-05-13 Thread . fsmithred
To boot the i386 iso in virtualbox, you need to go into the settings for System, Processor, and check the box for "Enable PAE/NX". I just did it, and it works great. One thing I had to do was hit TAB at the boot menu and change the vga setting to vga=788 so it would fit on this small laptop screen

[DNG] Fwd: Unofficial Devuan Beta Live Minimal -- UPDATE

2016-05-13 Thread . fsmithred
-- Forwarded message -- From: . fsmithred Date: Fri, May 13, 2016 at 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Beta Live Minimal -- UPDATE To: KatolaZ That would be the i586 kernel. linux-image-3.16.0-4-586- Linux 3.16 for older PCs linux-image-586

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal

2016-05-14 Thread . fsmithred
I was able to boot the minimal i386 in virtualbox with 175mb ram, but not with 170 or less. I'm a little surprised that it wants all that. Back in the days of Squeeze, I was able to boot an older version of Refracta (with e17, put together by meandean) and whatever version of Antix was current the

Re: [DNG] Some questions re the devuan release

2016-05-14 Thread . fsmithred
I've installed devuan beta from the amd64 netinstall and DVD, and from the i386 CD, and in all cases, when I got to the tasksel window, there was a checkbox for default devuan desktop followed by a list of desktop environments to choose. I chose xfce in all cases. Do the other choices not work? Fo

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