On 06/11/2015 02:17 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: > Hi Clarke, > > Can you: > * give us a listing of which systemd packages are installed (something like > "aptitude search systemd | egrep ^i")? > * use "apt-cache rdepends" to show us which packages depend on them? > > Thanks, > Jude >
Not the OP here, and not exactly what you're asking, but here's what I did yesterday: Installed devuan-alpha2-amd64 netinstall iso in virtualbox. At tasksel, I un-checked Print Server and Devuan Desktop Environment, and I checked XFCE. All seemed to be working well after install. dpkg -l | grep systemd ii libpam-systemd:amd64 215-17+deb8u1 amd64 system and service manager - PAM module ii libsystemd0:amd64 215-17+deb8u1 amd64 systemd utility library ii systemd 215-17+deb8u1 amd64 system and service manager ii systemd-shim 9-1 amd64 shim for systemd 'aptitude why' pointed to task-xfce-desktop as the reason for systemd packages, so I attempted to remove that. 'apt-get -s remove task-xfce-desktop libpam-systemd systemd' gave me a long list of packages that were no longer needed and were set to autoremove. (See below for the full list.) So I apt-get installed that list of packages and then I could remove systemd, systemd-shim and libpam-systemd without losing my whole desktop environment. After that, shutdown and reboot buttons stopped working in xfce and lightdm. Only logout from the desktop worked, bringing me to the login screen. Then I added back systemd, systemd-shim and libpam-systemd. Desktop buttons are no longer gray, but shutdown and reboot only bring me to the lightdm login screen. Power button choices in lightdm are all grayed out. That's not what I expected, and I don't know what's different from the original install. If I get a chance to do it again, I can make full packages lists before and after to see if something else got removed but not reinstalled. HTH, fsr crda dns-root-data dnsmasq-base espeak-data exfalso fonts-freefont-ttf gimp 25 gimp-data gir1.2-atspi-2.0 gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0 gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0 26 gir1.2-gtksource-3.0 gir1.2-keybinder-3.0 gir1.2-wnck-3.0 27 gnome-accessibility-themes gnome-orca gnome-themes-standard 28 gnome-themes-standard-data gtk2-engines-pixbuf hyphen-en-us iputils-arping 29 iw javascript-common libamd2.3.1 libao-common libao4 libass5 libatk-adaptor 30 libaudio2 libavformat56 libbabl-0.1-0 libbasicusageenvironment0 31 libbluetooth3 libbrlapi0.6 libcamd2.3.1 libccolamd2.8.0 libcddb2 32 libcholmod2.1.2 libchromaprint0 libdc1394-22 libdca0 libdirectfb-1.2-9 33 libdiscid0 libdotconf0 libdvbpsi9 libebml4 libenca0 libespeak1 libfaad2 34 libflite1 libfreerdp-cache1.1 libfreerdp-client1.1 libfreerdp-codec1.1 35 libfreerdp-common1.1.0 libfreerdp-core1.1 libfreerdp-crypto1.1 36 libfreerdp-gdi1.1 libfreerdp-locale1.1 libfreerdp-primitives1.1 37 libfreerdp-utils1.1 libgail-common libgail18 libgegl-0.2-0 libgimp2.0 38 libgme0 libgpod-common libgpod4 libgroupsock4 libgtksourceview-3.0-1 39 libgtksourceview-3.0-common libilmbase6 libiso9660-8 libjs-jquery 40 libjs-sphinxdoc libjs-underscore libkate1 libkeybinder-3.0-0 41 liblightdm-gobject-1-0 liblircclient0 liblivemedia42 liblouis-data liblouis2 42 liblua5.2-0 libmatroska6 libmbim-glib4 libmbim-proxy libmm-glib0 libmng1 43 libmodplug1 libmpcdec6 libmtp-common libmtp-runtime libmtp9 libndp0 44 libnetfilter-conntrack3 libnl-3-200 libnl-genl-3-200 libnl-route-3-200 45 libnm-glib-vpn1 libnm-glib4 libnm-gtk-common libnm-gtk0 libnm-util2 46 libopenexr6 libopenraw1 libportaudio2 libpostproc53 libqmi-glib1 47 libqmi-proxy libqt4-dbus libqt4-xml libqtcore4 libqtdbus4 libqtgui4 48 libreoffice-gtk libresid-builder0c2a libsdl-image1.2 libsdl1.2debian 49 libsgutils2-2 libshine3 libsidplay2 libsonic0 libspeechd2 libswscale3 50 libteamdctl0 libtidy-0.99-0 libumfpack5.6.2 libupnp6 libusageenvironment2 51 libva-drm1 libva-x11-1 libvcdinfo0 libvlc5 libvlccore8 libvncclient0 52 libwinpr-crt0.1 libwinpr-crypto0.1 libwinpr-dsparse0.1 53 libwinpr-environment0.1 libwinpr-file0.1 libwinpr-handle0.1 libwinpr-heap0.1 54 libwinpr-input0.1 libwinpr-interlocked0.1 libwinpr-library0.1 55 libwinpr-path0.1 libwinpr-pool0.1 libwinpr-registry0.1 libwinpr-rpc0.1 56 libwinpr-sspi0.1 libwinpr-synch0.1 libwinpr-sysinfo0.1 libwinpr-thread0.1 57 libwinpr-utils0.1 libwmf0.2-7 libwnck-3-0 libwnck-3-common libxcb-composite0 58 libxcb-keysyms1 libxcb-randr0 libxcb-xv0 lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter 59 media-player-info mobile-broadband-provider-info modemmanager python-cddb 60 python-feedparser python-musicbrainz2 python-mutagen python-pyinotify 61 python-utidylib python3-brlapi python3-cairo python3-gi python3-louis 62 python3-pyatspi python3-speechd python3-xdg qdbus qt-at-spi qtchooser 63 qtcore4-l10n quodlibet speech-dispatcher speech-dispatcher-audio-plugins 64 task-desktop vlc vlc-data vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse 65 wireless-regdb wpasupplicant xbrlapi xsane xsane-common _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng