On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 12:36:23AM +0100, aitor wrote:
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> Here you are the resulting image generated by the live-sdk, including
> debian-installer:
>
> http://gnuinos.org/gnuinos%20ascii/
>
Great job aitor!
HND
KatolaZ
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On 12/12/18 1:14 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Martin Steigerwald (mar...@lichtvoll.de):
[...]
>> Ah, I found it: smartlist. It appears to be a small, lightweight C
>> application. Debian is using this.
>
> Nicely summarised. Yes, SmartList seems to have carved out a neat
> little niche of mode
Quoting Lars Nood??n via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> It's probably a time that Procmail be retired, and thus anything based
> on it. There have been a lot of reports in recent years of serious,
> unsafe bugs in its processing. However, there is this comment about it
> from a former Procmail main
A very odd thing happened on #devuan, and then an incrementally odder
thing on dev1galaxy, on the day before Pearl Harbour Day.Both
involved a whirlwind visit by Eric Raymond -- who came and went with
some quite ranty opinions. Being sleepy at the time, I good-naturedly
promised Eric I'd rai
On 12/12/18 1:13 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Lars Nood??n via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
>
>> It's probably a time that Procmail be retired, and thus anything based
>> on it. There have been a lot of reports in recent years of serious,
>> unsafe bugs in its processing. However, there is this c
I wrote:
> Upon examination, it turns out that the known flaws in Procmail lack any
> credible exploitation scenario. The matter was covered on LWN.net a few
> years ago, and I'm pretty sure nothing has changed substantively.
>
> (I've gone through this discussion several times since then on mai
On 12/12/18 1:25 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> I wrote:
>
>> Upon examination, it turns out that the known flaws in Procmail lack any
>> credible exploitation scenario. The matter was covered on LWN.net a few
>> years ago, and I'm pretty sure nothing has changed substantively.
>>
>> (I've gone through t
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 03:14:39AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
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> What Eric left for us:
> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=13144#p13144
>
Dear Rick,
I would really like to avoid starting yet-another-lengthy-flame which
has little chance of being useful at all. Writing 150 emails ab
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
> I would really like to avoid starting yet-another-lengthy-flame which
> has little chance of being useful at all. Writing 150 emails about
> which points of that post are good and which are bad might possibly be
> useful to sharpen our own rhetoric weapons
Hi Michael K.
El Fri, 7 Dec 2018 12:45:11 +0100
"Michael K." escribió:
> After a Dev1 Setup on a Laptop (whit eth0), i have to wait a long time
> for the eth0 on "cold boot".
>
> I "cold boot" my Laptop
> I look to the "Boot Messages"
> I see the following Msg:
>
> Configuring Network Interfac
In debian I had the file /etc/aliases with more or less standard
entries, but don't know how it got there (I didn't run sendmail or
procmail, but did run exim4). I now see that the file is missing in
devuan ASCII (where I also run exim4).
Is this file a good thing to have or does devuan provide
On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 13:18:35, Haines Brown wrote:
> In debian I had the file /etc/aliases with more or less standard
> entries, but don't know how it got there (I didn't run sendmail or
> procmail, but did run exim4). I now see that the file is missing in
> devuan ASCII (where I also
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 01:21:46PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 13:18:35, Haines Brown wrote:
>
> > In debian I had the file /etc/aliases with more or less standard
> > entries, but don't know how it got there (I didn't run sendmail or
> > procmail, but did run exi
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 07:28:11AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
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>
> Antony, its not in my /etc/mail/aliases. In your case, your sendmail
> probably created it. But for those not using sendmail, is
> the /etc/aliases file no longer userful or needed?
>
Dear Haines,
as you know, /etc/
Am Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2018 schrieb Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba:
> Hi Michael K.
>
> El Fri, 7 Dec 2018 12:45:11 +0100
> "Michael K." escribió:
>
> > After a Dev1 Setup on a Laptop (whit eth0), i have to wait a long time
> > for the eth0 on "cold boot".
> >
> > I "cold boot" my Laptop
>
Hi Haines,
El Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:18:35 -0500
Haines Brown escribió:
> In debian I had the file /etc/aliases with more or less standard
> entries, but don't know how it got there [...]
It is commony created during the installation by debian-installer
(and I see that devuan-installer does the s
Le 12/12/2018 à 13:58, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit :
Am Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2018 schrieb Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba:
Hi Michael K.
El Fri, 7 Dec 2018 12:45:11 +0100
"Michael K." escribió:
After a Dev1 Setup on a Laptop (whit eth0), i have to wait a long time
for the eth0 on "cold boo
Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018 schrieb Didier Kryn:
> Le 12/12/2018 à 13:58, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit :
> > Am Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2018 schrieb Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba:
> >> Hi Michael K.
> >>
> >> El Fri, 7 Dec 2018 12:45:11 +0100
> >> "Michael K." escribió:
> >>
> >>> After a Dev1
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:28:11 -0500
Haines Brown wrote:
> Antony, its not in my /etc/mail/aliases. In your case, your sendmail
> probably created it. But for those not using sendmail, is
> the /etc/aliases file no longer userful or needed?
I'm running postfix that uses it. Maybe other mtas too..
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Lars Nood??n via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
>
> > It's probably a time that Procmail be retired, and thus anything based
> > on it. There have been a lot of reports in recent years of serious,
> > unsafe bugs in its processing. However, there is
Media partitioning, formatting
Configure mountpoints
Install Bootloader
Install Kernel, Modules & Firmware
Install Shell & package management software
Configure console
Configure network
Boot
Discuss...
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On 12/12/2018 11:14, Rick Moen wrote:
A key part of the basis of Eric's argument is irritatingly and obviously
untrue:
If you want to have more devs, you need to attract a larger userbase.
I'm surprised to see Eric advance this non-sequitur.
I don't think it's a non sequitur, but I do thin
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 02:40:11PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
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> installation methods. Looking at
> https://mirror.netzspielplatz.de/devuan/devuan_ascii_rc/installer-iso/ for
> example. Do the separate CD and DVD images have much value given that they
> only hold the tiniest fraction of the
On 12/12/2018 15:22, KatolaZ wrote:
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>
> Please find below the stats of the actual number of downloads of each
> ASCII image according to https://files.devuan.org in the last 14 days
> (without taking into account the other 24 ISO mirrors):
>
> - netinst: 149
> - DVD ISO: 13
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 02:10:24PM +0100, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba
wrote:
> Hi Haines,
>
> El Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:18:35 -0500
> Haines Brown escribió:
>
> > In debian I had the file /etc/aliases with more or less standard
> > entries, but don't know how it got there [...]
>
> It is co
On 2018-12-12 09:22, KatolaZ wrote:
And please find below a more detailed explanation on the motivations
behind each image:
- netinst exist because it's the preferred way of installing minimal
systems and servers;
- the install DVD ISO exists because there are many users asking for a
singl
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 03:14:39 -0800
Rick Moen wrote:
> If you want to have more devs, you need to attract a larger
> userbase.
>
> I'm surprised to see Eric advance this non-sequitur. Open source
> projects attract developers because their needs and objectives (or the
> needs and objectives of
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 12:37:36 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> If anybody is wondering "how can I help Devuan" and is ready to do
> something concrete in that direction, putting together such a simple
> webpage would be a valuable contribution.
I don't know how much I believe this myself, but..
Anyone wh
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 11:39:49AM -0800, spiralofhope wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 12:37:36 +0100
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
> > If anybody is wondering "how can I help Devuan" and is ready to do
> > something concrete in that direction, putting together such a simple
> > webpage would be a valuable con
Quoting Jim Jackson (j...@franjam.org.uk):
> Just an aside - what are the alternatives to procmail?
> so far I've only found _maildrop_ as an in-line delivery filter.
Most-often mentioned alternative LDAs (local delivery agents) are
Maildrop, sieve[1], sortmail, and Dovecot LDA. (Me, I just per
Hi Haines,
El Wed, 12 Dec 2018 12:43:29 -0500
Haines Brown escribió:
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 02:10:24PM +0100, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba
> wrote:
> > Hi Haines,
> >
> > El Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:18:35 -0500
> > Haines Brown escribió:
> >
> > > In debian I had the file /etc/aliases wi
Jim Jackson wrote:
>
> Just an aside - what are the alternatives to procmail?
> so far I've only found _maildrop_ as an in-line delivery filter.
I filter my incoming mail using perl script based on
https://metacpan.org/pod/Email::Filter. It is designed to
be a drop-in replacement for procmail, wi
Jim Jackson - 12.12.18, 15:33:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Rick Moen wrote:
> > Quoting Lars Nood??n via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> > > It's probably a time that Procmail be retired, and thus anything
> > > based on it. There have been a lot of reports in recent years of
> > > serious, unsafe bugs in
Eric has never been the developer of a distribution, so there will be
things he doesn't understand. I am all for having as many users as
possible. I understand the problem of proprietary firmware and hope that
this is not a significant blocker for most people, especially since most
distribution ins
On 12/12/18 at 00:36, aitor wrote:
> Thanks for your attention, and merry christmas to all of you :)
Thank you for your contribution, and Happy Christmas and Merry New
Year to you! ☺
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There's also Sieve. Not a drop-in replacement to procmail, but pretty
powerful.
On 12/12/18 5:08 PM, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
Jim Jackson wrote:
Just an aside - what are the alternatives to procmail?
so far I've only found _maildrop_ as an in-line delivery filter.
I filter my incoming mail
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