On Tue, 24 May 2016 08:26:31 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> Am Tue, 24 May 2016 05:41:47 +
> schrieb Irrwahn :
>
>> No need to, since there is no such dependency at all:
[...]
> I see. But why, when i install lightdm, then it always installs
> gnome-accessibility-themes as well?
[...]
There is act
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 07:27:11 +
schrieb Irrwahn :
Thanks!!!
> Protip: If you'd like to avoid such unwanted installs,
> there is an easy way to tweak apt, namely by creating
> this file:
>
> $ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01norecommends
> APT::Install-Recommends "0";
> APT::Install-Suggest
On Tue, 24 May 2016 08:44:52 +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 May 2016 21:16:51 +0200, Jaromil wrote:
[Proposal of a Wiki page providing recommendations
for Devuan endorsed default software ...]
> A good start could be to draft this for the default
> des
On Tue, 24 May 2016 09:50:39 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> Am Tue, 24 May 2016 07:27:11 +
> schrieb Irrwahn :
[...]
>>
>> $ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01norecommends
>> APT::Install-Recommends "0";
>> APT::Install-Suggests "0";
>>
[...]
> Just a simple question: the "--no-install-recommends" (o
Hi,
I downloaded Devuan 1.0 Jessie Minimal Beta Live and tried startx but
nothing happened.
Edward
On 23/05/2016, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 08:05:18PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
>>
>>
>> El 23/05/16 a las 18:57, KatolaZ escribió:
>> >Hi Aitor,
>> >
>> >thanks a lot for spotting that
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:12:00AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I downloaded Devuan 1.0 Jessie Minimal Beta Live and tried startx but
> nothing happened.
>
eheheh! "minimal" means "contains only the essential stuff in the
smallest possible amount of space". Hence you will find a consol
Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
Rainer Weikusat writes:
[...]
Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation
[*] It doesn't support lexical scoping.
No idea what that means. I like emacs for text editing and don't
use it for anything else.
_
Le 24/05/2016 03:36, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:16:48PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit :
I have no use for a PDF
viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^)
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> Emacs is an excellent user interface, development environment, and
> desktop for ancient, text-only terminals. That's what it was for back
> in the day. That's what it still is.
>
> But people seem to be able to afford better terminals
For me, Emacs is a lot more than a development environment
On Tue, 24 May 2016 08:34:37 +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote:
>
>> "Emacs is a great operating system, it lacks a good editor, though."
[...]
>> Maybe if someone could add some system init code and process
>> supervision functionality to it, that would shed a whole new
> On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote:
>> ...
>> Maybe if someone could add some system init code and process
>> supervision functionality to it ...
For process supervision, try 'M-x proced', a "mode for displaying
system processes and sending signals to them".
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hkp://keys.gnupg.net
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On Tue, 24 May 2016, Boruch Baum wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Maybe if someone could add some system init code and process
> >> supervision functionality to it ...
>
> For process supervision, try 'M-x proced', a "mode for displaying
> system processes and sending
On Tue, 24 May 2016, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
> >Rainer Weikusat writes:
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >>Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation
> >[*] It doesn't support lexical scoping.
> >
>
> No idea what that means. I like emacs f
Hi Robert,
El 24/05/16 a las 02:42, Robert Storey escribió:
I'd love to install Atril, but after an "apt-get update" and "apt-get
dist-upgrade" it's no longer in the repositories for AntiX. I'm not sure
why that is.
There is a lightweight PDF viewer for Devuan called Zathura:
https://pwmt
..
On 2016-05-24 12:50, Jaromil wrote:
> ...
> I agree with Robert the multi-lang support is very important and very
> well implemented in Emacs. Since many years all my work depends from
> Emacs. I've had the chance to offer a dinner to RMS for my gratitude
> for Emacs and I'll do that with an
El 24/05/16 a las 13:10, aitor_czr escribió:
Hi Robert,
El 24/05/16 a las 02:42, Robert Storey escribió:
> I'd love to install Atril, but after an "apt-get update" and "apt-get
> dist-upgrade" it's no longer in the repositories for AntiX. I'm not sure
> why that is.
There is a lightweight P
On Tue, 24 May 2016 06:38:34 -0400, Boruch Baum wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote:
>>> ...
>>> Maybe if someone could add some system init code and process
>>> supervision functionality to it ...
>
> For process supervision, try 'M-x proced', a "mode for displaying
> system processes an
On Tue, 24 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 06:38:34 -0400, Boruch Baum wrote:
> >> On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote:
> >>> ...
> >>> Maybe if someone could add some system init code and process
> >>> supervision functionality to it ...
> >
> > For process supervision, try 'M-x pr
Just for fun...
Not everyone knows this, but Emacs can be your psychiatrist. If you haven't
tried it yet, take a look at "doctor"
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsDoctor
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Is there a link to an instruction how to use (and setup) openrc
together with sysvinit?
I'd like to use openrc as a tool to administrate daemons and services
since i find it a lot more "logical" (easy?). One question for example
is, if can be used the (needed) openrc scripts from other distros (l
On Tue, 24 May 2016 19:55:07 +0800, Robert Storey wrote:
> Just for fun...
>
> Not everyone knows this, but Emacs can be your psychiatrist. If you haven't
> tried it yet, take a look at "doctor"
Of course, never miss out on aunty ELIZA!
In case of emergency dial M-x doctor.
Will soon be in desp
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 07:27:11 +
Irrwahn wrote::
> I tried that a few days ago, and got some ... umm ...
> "interesting" results. I just tried that again on a clean
> VM install (dropped a one-liner for ~/.xsessionrc) and at
> first it did indeed look better. However, after exiting from
> j
On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:06:33 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> Is there a link to an instruction how to use (and setup) openrc
> together with sysvinit?
DISCLAIMER: I never tried that, so please take my
suggestions with a buckload of salt. (Corrections welcome!)
Having that out of the way: There is this
On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:25:09 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> Am Tue, 24 May 2016 07:27:11 +
> Irrwahn wrote::
>
>> I tried that a few days ago, and got some ... umm ...
>> "interesting" results. I just tried that again on a clean
>> VM install (dropped a one-liner for ~/.xsessionrc) and at
>> fir
Didier Kryn writes:
> Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
>> Rainer Weikusat writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation
>> [*] It doesn't support lexical scoping.
>>
>
> No idea what that means.
It means that any binding of some
Jaromil writes:
[...]
> maybe its all relative and we are
> all fanatics in the eyes of Vim users :^)))
Confused people having confused opinions ...
[rw@doppelsaurus]~#dpkg -l | grep 'ii *[^ ]*vim\? '
ii nvi 1.81.6-8.2
amd644.
To the Devs in charge, and to whom it may concern.
I just filed an issue against the Devuan slim package,
requesting its removal from future Devuan releases.
Full quote below signature.
Regards
Urban
-
Request for Removal of slim p
On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:08:51 +0200, Irrwahn Grausewitz wrote:
> 3. It has already been removed from Debian testing and unstable (sic!).
Not so. Bad research on my behalf. Sorry!
Urban
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:08:51 +0200, Irrwahn Grausewitz wrote:
> I just filed an issue against the Devuan slim package,
> requesting its removal from future Devuan releases.
Just to prevent possible misunderstandings, some
clarification re my stance on that:
I would never object to Devuan beco
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 14:12:07 +
schrieb Irrwahn :
> Checked with your above script. Again, works for me: C-M-BS
> kills X server dead instantly.
So does for me now; there was a typo in ~/.xsession.rc :-(
I changed the cmd_login line in slim to be sure it loads correctly all
i want. If i exec
On Tue, 24 May 2016 17:28:44 +0200, Emninger wrote:
[...]
> I changed the cmd_login line in slim to be sure it loads correctly all
> i want. If i execute the standard login_cmd without cycling thru the
> sessions options, no desktop is started at (but i want charge you to
> try something with slim
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 08:37:40AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
>
> Personally and daydreaming, on the longlong term :^) I'd rather
> appreciate an effort that ditches elisp alltogether, learning from the
> goods and bads of Emacs, and builds something on a more modern LISP
> interpreter like Guile2 or e
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 02:47:04PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Didier Kryn writes:
> > Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
> >> Rainer Weikusat writes:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>> Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation
> >> [*] It doesn't support lexica
El 24/05/16 a las 16:12, Rainer Weikusat escribió:
It means that any binding of some symbol is globally visible during the
dynamic lifetime of the scope which established it instead of being
restricted to code which is lexically contained in this scope.
Contrived example for that:
; function
W dniu 23.05.2016 o 14:39, Sadegh Sadegh pisze:
> Second: when I installed smplayer from synaptic, it has no film,but only
> voice.
> How is this posibel?
Try to install libavcodec from synaptic.
Or install another player i.e. VLC.
Redards
Paweł
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Hendrik Boom writes:
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 02:47:04PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>> Didier Kryn writes:
>> > Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
>> >> Rainer Weikusat writes:
>> >>> Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation
>> >> [*] It doesn't suppo
Irrwahn wrote:
> To the Devs in charge, and to whom it may concern.
>
> I just filed an issue against the Devuan slim package,
> requesting its removal from future Devuan releases.
Hi Urban,
Thanks for writing this up and posting it.
I have no stake, not using slim myself, however
I did want t
I would like to have in the terminal (i use xterm), directories shown
not only with a different colour (i managed that) but also with final
slash (i liked that in some bsd and in slackware), e.g.:
~/.bogofilter/
~/.claws-mail/
etc. Someone knows by chance how to set that in .Xresources?
Thanks a
On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:36:40 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Irrwahn wrote:
[...]
>> 4. The Devuan package appears orphaned, the code has not been touched
>>for about a year. Considering its upstream is no longer maintained
>>either, the package might impose a security risk not tenable for a
>
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 11:04:59PM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> I would like to have in the terminal (i use xterm), directories shown
> not only with a different colour (i managed that) but also with final
> slash (i liked that in some bsd and in slackware), e.g.:
>
> ~/.bogofilter/
> ~/.cl
Hi fsmithred,
El 23/05/16 a las 18:01, aitor_czr escribió:
El 23/05/16 a las 14:00, fsmithred escribió:
I installed using the devuan installer at the boot menu. The first time, I
chose a root password. When I booted into the new installation, I could
log in as user, but I could not su to ro
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 08:40:37PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> ... and what the Lisp 1.5 FUNCTION was about was to enable solving the
> so-called 'upward funarg problem': Assuming a function is returned
> (passed upward) when evaluating an expression and later activated in a
> different cont
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 04:53:15PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 16:08:51 +0200, Irrwahn Grausewitz wrote:
> > I just filed an issue against the Devuan slim package,
> > requesting its removal from future Devuan releases.
>
> Just to prevent possible misunderstandings, some
> clar
Hi,
Sorry for hooking back an earlier part of this thread, but I turned back
to xpdf a while back as it was the only pdf viewer that I found produces
consistently good and correct rendering results. It can print too. The
biggest problem is it is way too ugly. If we could wrap a nicer
interface aro
On Sat, 2016-05-21 at 16:43 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Yay curl|bash. I'd say recommending such a command as their
> installation
> method means their view on security is so bad that no one should
> touch them
> with a $LENGTH pole.
At least as safe as a package, both are taking executable co
Is pulseaudio necessary? As i understand it (and as i remember), it
shouldn't be needed (in lubuntu at least in former times) it was not
installed ... (?) But it's a long time i was away from Debian ...
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Hi emninger
pulseaudio is a layer on top of alsa, and no it's not necessary
Ozi
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 3:56 PM, wrote:
> Is pulseaudio necessary? As i understand it (and as i remember), it
> shouldn't be needed (in lubuntu at least in former times) it was not
> installed ... (?) But it's a lo
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