On 2015-01-31 06:01, Joel Roth wrote:
Steve Litt wrote:
Svante Signell wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 17:39 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Is it just me, or is Grub2 as complex and error prone as systemd?
> >
> > I'm wondering if we can have alternate boot loaders.
>
> So, what's
Hi,
1) lilo is always a Russian roulette. It's too risky solution. (+NOTE:
I plan to finish development of LILO at 12/2015 because of some
limitations (e.g. with BTFS, GPT, RAID):
http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/).
2) Grub 2 is ugly and blown solution.
In my opinion the most interesting solution is
I completely agree with most of the comments above about grub2.
I manage dedicated server and build my own grsec kernel, so I often
have to use the bootloader, so many times I couldnt get it to boot
with grub2 after hours trying and as soon as I tried with lilo or
grub-legacy it worked immediately
On Sat, 1/31/15, Neo Futur wrote:
Subject: Re: [Dng] Boot loader?
To: "dng@lists.dyne.org"
Date: Saturday, January 31, 2015, 11:59 AM
* trinity ( great fork of kde3 ) as a default DE
OMG . . . N. It's bloatware second only to Gnome.
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:59:51PM -0500, Neo Futur wrote:
> going further than just grub, I think it could be good for devuan to
> be the distro coming with different default packages, a few ideas :
>
> * grub/lilo as a default bootloader
> * trinity ( great fork of kde3 ) as a default DE
> * a g
> "No DE as a default": does this this mean not having GNOME/KDE but
> perhaps X11, (v)twm or similar, xutils/xapps, and xterm?
> Or does it mean no X?
I meant no X, but that would only be for a possible "minimalist untra
secure server oriented" release, also the grsec kernel would probably
be a d
On Sat, 1/31/15, Isaac Dunham wrote:
Subject: Re: [Dng] Boot loader?
To: "Neo Futur"
Cc: "dng@lists.dyne.org"
Date: Saturday, January 31, 2015, 1:18 PM
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at
12:59:51PM -0500, Neo Futur wrote:
>
> * trinity ( great fork
> (If I recall correctly, non-root X is only possible with systemd or
> on openbsd, so that's a moot point for now.)
>From what I recall reading up on this, you should be able to run X as an
unprivileged user on Linux without systemd as long as your video card has a
driver with KMS support. IIRC,
Neo Futur writes:
> So I upvote this idea of having devuan coming with a different default
> bootloader, wether it is grub1 or lilo ( or whatever is simple enough
> to be used by an average human, meaning not grub2 )
I don't like grub2, and I like lilo less than grub2, I agree to change
bootload
jude is correct, kernel mode setting resolved this a shade under a
decade ago. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_setting
--Gravis
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Jude Nelson wrote:
>> (If I recall correctly, non-root X is only possible with systemd or
>> on openbsd, so that's a moot point
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:59:51PM -0500, Neo Futur wrote:
> I completely agree with most of the comments above about grub2.
> I manage dedicated server and build my own grsec kernel, so I often
> have to use the bootloader, so many times I couldnt get it to boot
> with grub2 after hours trying and
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 20:31:07 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:59:51PM -0500, Neo Futur wrote:
> > I completely agree with most of the comments above about grub2.
> > I manage dedicated server and build my own grsec kernel, so I often
> > have to use the bootloader, so many t
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 08:44:17PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 20:31:07 -0500
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:59:51PM -0500, Neo Futur wrote:
> > > I completely agree with most of the comments above about grub2.
> > > I manage dedicated server and build m
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