On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:59:51PM -0500, Neo Futur wrote: > going further than just grub, I think it could be good for devuan to > be the distro coming with different default packages, a few ideas : > > * grub/lilo as a default bootloader > * trinity ( great fork of kde3 ) as a default DE > * a grsecurity enabled kernel ? > * eudev or other udev alternative > * more generally always choosing the alternatives that are the most > respectful of users and unix philosophy, as defaults
I will note that there is an interesting complication with grsecurity kernels: The X server needs to be able to read sysfs or else have a connection with a daemon that can, or drivers will not be properly loaded and configured. grsec has an option that makes sysfs and procfs unreadable except by root, so that X needs udev or must run as root. (If I recall correctly, non-root X is only possible with systemd or on openbsd, so that's a moot point for now.) > another idea to make devuan different : > > * shipping a server oriented flavour, with no DE as a default, a grsec > kernel as a default and only the packages needed for a server, that > could also be used as a minimal install, small download, that you can > later upgrade, add a DE . . . "No DE as a default": does this this mean not having GNOME/KDE but perhaps X11, (v)twm or similar, xutils/xapps, and xterm? Or does it mean no X? I presume it would include openssh and maybe a lightweight vim. Thanks, Isaac Dunham _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
