Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 08:46:46 +0200, Edward wrote in message : > Quote from golinux's last reply: "You assume that a teacher is > necessary. But anyone who wants to learn WILL learn if they are > motivated. There are geeks who have even skipped college and made a > go of it. If you're in the 's

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 01:08:59 -0400 Christopher Clements wrote: > It also helps to find some kind, patient soul on IRC who can answer > any questions you have about said manuals or tell you how to avoid > embarrasing yourself by posting something stupid on a mailing list. > (Wish I'd learned soone

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-30 Thread Simon Hobson
Edward Bartolo wrote: > Certificates and I also dare say, EXPENSIVE colleges and universities > matter a lot. Certificates yes, college/university yes, expensive much less so (varies by location). For college/university, what matters more is it's standing in the relevant field. For example, ma

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-29 Thread Edward Bartolo
Quote from golinux's last reply: "You assume that a teacher is necessary. But anyone who wants to learn WILL learn if they are motivated. There are geeks who have even skipped college and made a go of it. If you're in the 'system', the quality of teachers is always a crapshoot these days and the

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-29 Thread Christopher Clements
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 09:16:51PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On 2017-07-29 20:40, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 20:49:00 -0400 Robert Marmorstein wrote: >>> My high-school programming class was advertised as teaching >>> people how to >>> program in C and do all sorts of low-leve

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-29 Thread golinux
On 2017-07-29 20:40, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 20:49:00 -0400 Robert Marmorstein wrote: > >>> My high-school programming class was advertised as teaching > >>> people how to > >>> program in C and do all sorts of low-level stuff. I signed up > >>> thinking I might finally meet a "

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 20:49:00 -0400 Robert Marmorstein wrote: > > >>> My high-school programming class was advertised as teaching > > >>> people how to > > >>> program in C and do all sorts of low-level stuff. I signed up > > >>> thinking I might finally meet a "computer expert" that actually > >

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-29 Thread Robert Marmorstein
> >>> My high-school programming class was advertised as teaching people how > >>> to > >>> program in C and do all sorts of low-level stuff. I signed up thinking > >>> I might finally meet a "computer expert" that actually knew what they > >>> were talking about... > >>> > >>> The teacher began

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-26 Thread Christopher Clements
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 12:22:39PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote: On 26.07.2017 04:47, Christopher Clements wrote: My high-school programming class was advertised as teaching people how to program in C and do all sorts of low-level stuff. I signed up th

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming (Was: Please keep 32-bits alive)

2017-07-26 Thread γραφω λογον
Yes, please, thank you sirs to the part of the subject line in the parentheses. Yea, that, and that's why I'm here and not in a classroom to Simon's original post on the "Teaching IT & programming thread. Education in the US has nothing to do with Devuan. I'd rather be a polite netizen and s

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming (Was: Please keep 32-bits alive)

2017-07-26 Thread Simon Hobson
"Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" wrote: > On 26.07.2017 04:47, Christopher Clements wrote: > >> My high-school programming class was advertised as teaching people how to >> program in C and do all sorts of low-level stuff. I signed up thinking >> I might finally meet a "computer expert" that