Quote from golinux's last reply: "You assume that a teacher is necessary. But anyone who wants to learn WILL learn if they are motivated. There are geeks who have even skipped college and made a go of it. If you're in the 'system', the quality of teachers is always a crapshoot these days and the adventure will put you in the poorhouse in the process . . ."
In an ideal world this is true but in the real world, where making money is a necessity, getting knowledge and expertise in this way, is absolutely a waste of time. Try getting a good job with a reputable company to see for yourself if you are not convinced. Not even on this mailing list, what you said holds true, as the list is filled to the brim with elites, who exclude anyone they feel does not fall into their category. Certificates and I also dare say, EXPENSIVE colleges and universities matter a lot. Just see for yourself who is employed with companies like Google. With what you (golinux) said, one only gets employed with a small business, one is paid peanuts for work that otherwise would be paid far better. The reason is getting knowledge without formal proof cannot be proven unless one submits oneself to rigorous examinations to get certification. However, which educational institution is going to do away with offering examinations without actually requiring its students to attend courses? Courses are a very good source of revenue, implying, offering examinations and hence certification without them, does not make sense commercially. Everything revolves around money. If a family from the bottom social stratum has a high ability child, the chances that child gets certification from the most reputable universities, is next to nil. Furthermore, and this happened to me, if one, for some reason, has to change carrier, obviously, after seeking certification, one would be unable to do so for lacking the financial means. -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) If you cannot make abstructions about details you do not understand the concepts underlying them. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng