On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:29:43 +0200
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> On Sun 26 July 2015 23:18:58 Steve Litt wrote:
> > You can roll your own automount with one day's work using
> > inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works
> > without X or window manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if
On Sun 26 July 2015 23:18:58 Steve Litt wrote:
> You can roll your own automount with one day's work using inotify-wait,
> dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works without X or window
> manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if more than 20 people want it.
+1
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:18:58PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> You can roll your own automount with one day's work using inotify-wait,
> dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works without X or window
> manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if more than 20 people want it.
Or you can do it with moun
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:22:26 -0300
John Jensen wrote:
> I know it's decided that XFCE will be the default, which is fine, and
> as a simply end user I'll be happy with a functional system. I do
> have a question though. I find JWM to be quite flexible, although
> I've still much to try and learn
I know it's decided that XFCE will be the default, which is fine, and as a
simply end user I'll be happy with a functional system. I do have a
question though. I find JWM to be quite flexible, although I've still much
to try and learn about configuring it. It seems to do about everything a
person w
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 06:13:26 +0200
tilt! wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> Steve Litt wrote on 28/07/2015 at 06:04 CEST:
> > [...]
> > Just install sudo and be very parsimonious about rights it gives
> > out. [...]
>
> For what do you need sudo?
>
> Regards,
> T.
So you don't do su - or simply keep a
2015-07-28 6:04 GMT+02:00 Steve Litt :
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:24:45 +0200
> tilt! wrote:
>
>> Steve Litt wrote on 27/07/2015 at 05:18 CEST:
>> > You can roll your own automount with one day's work using
>> > inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works
>> > without X or window
Hi Steve,
Steve Litt wrote on 28/07/2015 at 06:04 CEST:
[...]
> Just install sudo and be very parsimonious about rights it gives out.
> [...]
For what do you need sudo?
Regards,
T.
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:24:45 +0200
tilt! wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote on 27/07/2015 at 05:18 CEST:
> > You can roll your own automount with one day's work using
> > inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works
> > without X or window manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if more than
>
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:00:02AM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> On 24/07/2015 23:48, James Powell wrote:
> >CDE is a classic UNIX desktop, but it has long been since viable for
> >modern usages.
> >
> >Xfce, in truth, was a modern replacement for it using Xforms since Motif
> >was, at the time, unde
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:49:54PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
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>
> As far as Windowmaker and Gnustep, if you can get those to serve you in
> any kind of productive way, you're a better man than I. I find Unity
> easier to use than those two. Speaking of Unity, Unity proved how many
> users a
Steve Litt wrote on 27/07/2015 at 05:18 CEST:
You can roll your own automount with one day's work using inotify-wait,
dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works without X or window
manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if more than 20 people want it.
+1
However, I dont' have sudo installed, w
gt;
> > I just wish Xfce would write their own automount utility to replace
> > udisks.
> > From: Teodoro Santoni<mailto:asbras...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: 7/26/2015 12:17 PM
> > To: Steve Litt<mailto:sl...@troubleshooters.com>
&g
own automount utility to replace
> udisks.
> From: Teodoro Santoni<mailto:asbras...@gmail.com>
> Sent: 7/26/2015 12:17 PM
> To: Steve Litt<mailto:sl...@troubleshooters.com>
> Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org<mailto:dng@lists.dyne.org>
>
ras...@gmail.com>
Sent: 7/26/2015 12:17 PM
To: Steve Litt<mailto:sl...@troubleshooters.com>
Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org<mailto:dng@lists.dyne.org>
Subject: Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager
Good evening,
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:49:54PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> I thought we'
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Steve Litt wrote:
> I thought we'd decided on Xfce
sure! we are not debating a new decision on the default desktop here
ciao
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Good evening,
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:49:54PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> I thought we'd decided on Xfce, and I'd thought that we managed to
> de-xxx-ize Xfce. Everyone (except me) likes Xfce, why not use it?
> It's trivial to use, even for somebody who's never seen it before.
> It's the Nan
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 09:43:26 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:21:14PM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
>
> I personally don't see way we should have CDE as a default in Devuan,
> given that the large majority of users would surely prefer something
> *usable* instead than a DE that was co
On 07/26/2015 03:43 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
I agree on keeping an eye on GNUStep but, despite I am a WMaker user,
I wouldn't recommend it as a default in Devuan either.
HND
KatolaZ
Just my two cents,
Realistically, I believe the only sane choice for a *default* is XFCE
4.12. Aesthetically, a
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:21:14PM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
> > >Not really, it wasn't a 'favorite' because it was not free.
> > I'm just saying that actual CDE use was rather a niche. Most used
> > something else "back in the day."
>
> didn't it ship by
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Hendrik Boom
wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:47:13PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 7/25/2015 9:54 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > >
> > >I've heard that wayland will require systemd.
> > >
> > >SteveT
> > >
> > >
> > I have to apologize, Steve.
> >
> > W
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:47:13PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
>
> On 7/25/2015 9:54 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> >I've heard that wayland will require systemd.
> >
> >SteveT
> >
> >
> I have to apologize, Steve.
>
> When I refer to "Wayland" I am referring to the Linux project, which
> as far a
On 7/25/2015 9:54 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
I've heard that wayland will require systemd.
SteveT
I have to apologize, Steve.
When I refer to "Wayland" I am referring to the Linux project, which as
far as I know does NOT have anything to do with systemd. It's just
easier to call it "Waylan
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:05:00 -0300
Marlon Nunes wrote:
> That's funny, yet everybody are 'still' using and depend on it to do
> every day 'real' work and making money with it.
> Until one can use wayland to get real work done, we can start talking
> about it again.
I've heard that wayland will
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 09:14:57PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
> Setting that aside for a moment, X11 is a network protocol, not a
> display system, and seldom used in today's world.
I'm very aware that X11 is a network protocol. I often use it that
way. Invaluable!
-- hendrik
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2015, Marlon Nunes wrote:
> Until one can use wayland to get real work done, we can start talking
> about it again.
I'm in favor of keeping this up as a general attitude for Devuan
choices. It is really important to understand that many of us are here
because we rely on tech in pro
On 2015-07-25 08:12, Roger Leigh wrote:
On 25/07/2015 10:53, James Powell wrote:
CDE was the defacto desktop for many UNIX branded systems like IRIX,
Solaris, HP-UX, and others until many replaced it with Gnome2, Xfce,
KDE, and others.
Sun/Oracle replaced CDE with Java Desktop Environment back
On 25/07/2015 10:53, James Powell wrote:
CDE was the defacto desktop for many UNIX branded systems like IRIX,
Solaris, HP-UX, and others until many replaced it with Gnome2, Xfce,
KDE, and others.
Sun/Oracle replaced CDE with Java Desktop Environment back on Solaris 10
I believe when OpenSolaris
On 2015-07-24 23:14, T.J. Duchene wrote:
On 7/24/2015 8:02 PM, Marlon Nunes wrote:
On 2015-07-24 21:17, T.J. Duchene wrote:
CDE is basically dead, and in my opinion should remain dead. While I
can share your enthusiasm for older DE's, CDE was never a favorite of
anyone except corporate. Everyo
Solaris uses a more
traditional DE now though.
From: Jaromil<mailto:jaro...@dyne.org>
Sent: 7/25/2015 3:21 AM
To: dng@lists.dyne.org<mailto:dng@lists.dyne.org>
Subject: Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, T.J. Duchene wrote:
&
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> >Not really, it wasn't a 'favorite' because it was not free.
> I'm just saying that actual CDE use was rather a niche. Most used
> something else "back in the day."
didn't it ship by default with Sun and SGI machines?
I remember using it
as well someth
On 7/24/2015 8:02 PM, Marlon Nunes wrote:
On 2015-07-24 21:17, T.J. Duchene wrote:
CDE is basically dead, and in my opinion should remain dead. While I
can share your enthusiasm for older DE's, CDE was never a favorite of
anyone except corporate. Everyone else was using FVWM, Andrew, or
OpenL
On 2015-07-24 21:17, T.J. Duchene wrote:
On 7/24/2015 6:30 PM, Marlon Nunes wrote:
Guys what about a true UNIX and complete desktop environment to be the
'default' desktop for devuan 2.0?
here's what i'm talking about:
http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Home/
http://sourceforge.net/p/c
On 7/24/2015 6:30 PM, Marlon Nunes wrote:
Guys what about a true UNIX and complete desktop environment to be the
'default' desktop for devuan 2.0?
here's what i'm talking about:
http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Home/
http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/What%20is%20CDE%3F/
"CD
On 2015-07-24 20:55, James Powell wrote:
I got it built on Slackware once but it wasn't too stable from when I
last had tried it years ago with Solaris.
-
From: Marlon Nunes
Sent: 7/24/2015 4:51 PM
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: Re: [DNG] A better default wi
On 24/07/2015 23:48, James Powell wrote:
CDE is a classic UNIX desktop, but it has long been since viable for
modern usages.
Xfce, in truth, was a modern replacement for it using Xforms since Motif
was, at the time, under a different license. It bears the same classic
layout minus some differenc
ject: Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager
On 2015-07-24 20:48, James Powell wrote:
> CDE is a classic UNIX desktop, but it has long been since viable for
> modern usages.
>
> Xfce, in truth, was a modern replacement for it using Xforms since
> Motif was, at the time, under a diff
On 2015-07-24 20:48, James Powell wrote:
CDE is a classic UNIX desktop, but it has long been since viable for
modern usages.
Xfce, in truth, was a modern replacement for it using Xforms since
Motif was, at the time, under a different license. It bears the same
classic layout minus some differen
CDE is a classic UNIX desktop, but it has long been since viable for modern
usages.
Xfce, in truth, was a modern replacement for it using Xforms since Motif was,
at the time, under a different license. It bears the same classic layout minus
some differences.
However, last I had heard CDE was s
On 2015-07-24 20:30, Marlon Nunes wrote:
Guys what about a true UNIX and complete desktop environment to be the
'default' desktop for devuan 2.0?
here's what i'm talking about:
http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Home/
http://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/What%20is%20CDE%3F/
"CDE wa
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