Later on, we may still want to have a respin installer and/or liveCD
with Mate default and anyway Mate is simple to apt-get install.
With XFCE 4.12, just released any interest I had in Mate is now
diminished considerably. I've nothing against Mate personally, but
objectively speaking, XFCE
On 02/28/2015 04:40 AM, Jaromil wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Ok, that sounds like a plan.
But which is the default DE for Devuan-- XFCE or Mate?
It will be Xfce4, since Mate is somehow too big.
Later on, we may still want to have a respin installer and/or liveCD
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 07:32:05PM -0430, Richard wrote:
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> >
> > And leaving the code as-is might be the faster way to get to Devuan 1.0.
> >
> > -- hendrik
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 16:47:03 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 06:40:41PM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> > On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 21:04:06 +0100
> > Wolfgang Pirker wrote:
> >
> > > Some other XFCE users might prefer the classical
> > > XFCE application menu.
> >
> > I do ;-3)
On Feb 28, 2015 5:17 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote:
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 06:40:41PM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> > On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 21:04:06 +0100
> > Wolfgang Pirker wrote:
> >
> > > Some other XFCE users might prefer the classical
> > > XFCE application menu.
> >
> > I do ;-3)
>
> And l
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 06:40:41PM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 21:04:06 +0100
> Wolfgang Pirker wrote:
>
> > Some other XFCE users might prefer the classical
> > XFCE application menu.
>
> I do ;-3)
And leaving the code as-is might be the faster way to get to Devuan 1.0
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 21:04:06 +0100
Wolfgang Pirker wrote:
> Some other XFCE users might prefer the classical
> XFCE application menu.
I do ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Women should be obscene and not absurd.
-- Groucho Marx
> > > I don't know. Given the entire NetworkManager's dependency on dbus,
> >
> > Dbus is just the mechanism other programs use to interact with NM.
> > If you were to carve out the dbus API from NM, it would still manage
> > your network as before, but you'd need to add a different way to
> > cont
I have a remark on dmenu.
It might be a practical way to achieve #2 for all desktop environment in
a uniform way. But in a desktop environment like XFCE and heavier ones
there are alternatives which might integrate better in its desktop
environment and look prettier.
For example in XFCE you
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 13:34:37 -0500
Jude Nelson wrote:
> > I don't know. Given the entire NetworkManager's dependency on dbus,
>
> Dbus is just the mechanism other programs use to interact with NM.
> If you were to carve out the dbus API from NM, it would still manage
> your network as before, bu
> I don't know. Given the entire NetworkManager's dependency on dbus,
Dbus is just the mechanism other programs use to interact with NM. If you
were to carve out the dbus API from NM, it would still manage your network
as before, but you'd need to add a different way to control it.
-Jude
On Sat
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:00:01 -0500
Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> On 02/22/2015 07:38 PM, Jaromil wrote:
> > dear Jonathan,
> >
> > you have very good concerns on usability. After Devuan 1.0 we might
> > be able to quick fix desktop behaviour, I bet many developers
> > involved will go do respins and b
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On 02/28/2015 11:38 AM, Jaromil wrote:
>
> I'm an avid user of tiled desktops, in particular Awesome and
> LarsWM, so I'll certainly make sure those work well, for my own
> good.
i3 user here. In case we ever need specific tweaks for that (eg.
Debian
Le 28/02/2015 11:38, Jaromil a écrit :
hi Didier,
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015, Didier Kryn wrote:
It seems we will have to wait a little for Mate, and maybe also
for all the lightweight tiled DE's.
we'll likely support all lightweight desktops just out of the box, I
doubt they have hard depend
On 02/22/2015 07:38 PM, Jaromil wrote:
dear Jonathan,
you have very good concerns on usability. After Devuan 1.0 we might be
able to quick fix desktop behaviour, I bet many developers involved will
go do respins and blends.
however, for what concerns us here and at least until the Devuan 1.0
re
hi Didier,
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015, Didier Kryn wrote:
> It seems we will have to wait a little for Mate, and maybe also
> for all the lightweight tiled DE's.
we'll likely support all lightweight desktops just out of the box, I
doubt they have hard dependencies on systemd. Enlightnement perhap
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Ok, that sounds like a plan.
But which is the default DE for Devuan-- XFCE or Mate?
It will be Xfce4, since Mate is somehow too big.
Later on, we may still want to have a respin installer and/or liveCD
with Mate default and anyway Mate is
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>Ok, that sounds like a plan.
>
>But which is the default DE for Devuan-- XFCE or Mate?
It will be Xfce4, since Mate is somehow too big.
Later on, we may still want to have a respin installer and/or liveCD
with Mate default and anyway Mate is
On 02/22/2015 05:45 PM, Mark Maxwell wrote:
On 22/02/15 20:11, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Hello,
A few questions about the GUI for Devuan...
1) In the default desktop environment for Devuan, will there be an
icon or other discoverable item the user can click to see a list of
available wifi networ
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, Steve Litt wrote:
> As far as I know, wicd depends on dbus, which is why I'm thinking of
> making a substitute.
As mentioned in a previous thread, we are leaning towards connman
these days one VUA is active patching some details in it and keeping
contact with its upstream de
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 17:06:47 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> I discovered the name of wicd on this list recently. I didn't
> try it, therefore I can't compare, but it looks that it has more
> diverse interfaces than wpasupplicant, CLI, GUI and even Curses. I
> will probably try it the first time
Le 22/02/2015 21:11, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
1) In the default desktop environment for Devuan, will there be an
icon or other discoverable item the user can click to see a list of
available wifi network connections?
2) When the DE's main menu pops up, will the user be able to
_immediately_
On 2015-02-22 20:11, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> [...]
> 2) When the DE's main menu pops
> up, will the user be able to _immediately_ start typing characters
> and see a list of applications filtered to match what is being
> typed?
> [...]
Hello there,
I am aware of two ways to achieve this, wh
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:11:12 + (UTC)
Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
I rearranged the order of your post...
>
> Anyhow, if any of those three are missing under the planned system,
> I'd be happy to help try to rectify the situation.
That's supremely cool. Discoverability is *everyth
dear Jonathan,
you have very good concerns on usability. After Devuan 1.0 we might be
able to quick fix desktop behaviour, I bet many developers involved will
go do respins and blends.
however, for what concerns us here and at least until the Devuan 1.0
release (which is a base system) you might
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 05:31:34PM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:11:12 + (UTC)
> Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>
> > 1) In the default desktop environment for Devuan, will there be an icon or
> > other discoverable item the user can click to see a list of available wifi
> >
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:11:12 + (UTC)
Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> 1) In the default desktop environment for Devuan, will there be an icon or
> other discoverable item the user can click to see a list of available wifi
> network connections?
>#1 is vital because it makes the entire knowledge-bas
Hello,A few questions about the GUI for Devuan...
1) In the default desktop environment for Devuan, will there be an icon or
other discoverable item the user can click to see a list of available wifi
network connections?2) When the DE's main menu pops up, will the user be able
to _immediately_ s
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