Later on, we may still want to have a respin installer and/or liveCD
with Mate default and anyway Mate is simple to apt-get install.

With XFCE 4.12, just released any interest I had in Mate is now diminished considerably. I've nothing against Mate personally, but objectively speaking, XFCE provides an equivalent or better featureset with a lot less clutter. The XFCE codebase seems better maintained than a rework of Gnome 2, IMHO.

My experience with Mate has been less than satisfactory lately. Differing distributions like Debian sid and OpenSUSE seem to have issues with mate-session causing UI crashes. I'd think it will take some serious work before a Debian Mate respin, or that Mate itself can be taken as seriously as XFCE at present.

Many VUAs love Xfce4 and its team is really a good example of talented
open source developers with good concerns about usability, compatibility
and resource consumption.
The reason we like it?  Gradual improvement over radical change.


we may want to backport a newer package
ourselves with a more actual 4.12 (volunteers welcome).

What do you need specifically? I'd be willing to offer some time as long as it is a discrete request, with a beginning and end. I've already compiled 4.12 once.


t.j.
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