Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-04-01 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > Before anyone takes this too seriously a bit more research needs to be > done as we are very close to the date that an elaborate ruse is > plausible, at least for us in the USA. For the time being, it seems like a joke. At least this time.

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-04-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 04:36:05PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > To me "trust" is a euphemism for the cartels divvying up the pie. I once heard that the NSA's definition of a "trusted system" was one that, if it misbehaves, you're screwed. Seems to fit here. -- hendrik __

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-31 Thread Vlad
Big deal, I will just run Windows in a VM then, although imo by the time they 'obsolete' 7 MS will probably be irrelevant. Red Hat's way of doing things annoys me more and more, but they are far from the only corporate fish in the Linux ocean, HP, IBM, Oracle, VMWare and Google and quite a few

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-31 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 31 Mar 10:30 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > I think he was probably envisioning Redhat creating a from-scratch > kernel. This would further differentiate Redhat, and would lock their > users into Redhat. I think Nate's point is Redhat's scared to do that > until Redhat has everyone ensnared i

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 07:51:19 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 04:56:00PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > Of course, the next step is an "authorized" and signed kernel > > distributed only in binary form that can be "trusted" on Win10 > > certified hardware. Add to that scenario th

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 30. März 2015, 12:38:37 schrieb Steve Litt: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 06:25:27 -0500 > > Nate Bargmann wrote: > > Is this really happening? > > > > > > > > > Now it appears as though the systemd developers have found a > > > solution to kernel compatibility problems and a way to extend th

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-31 Thread devuan . kn
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 8:51 AM, KatolaZ - kato...@freaknet.org wrote: > Again. such a binary blob cannot be the Linux kernel with some > patches, thanks to the fact that Linux is under GPLv2, so any modified > version of it has to be released with the same license, which implies > that any user s

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 04:56:00PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: [cut] > > > I personally find hilarious that most of the people out there are > > still convinced that the systemd-nonsense is just a replacement for > > sysv-init, while it should be clear by now that it is already becoming > > a pe

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 30 Mar 12:05 -0500, KatolaZ wrote: > Anyway, this little (disgusting) joke is revealing that some users > that are currently "tolerating" the systemd-nonsense would be quite > upset if the systemd-nonsense guys would decide to take the Linux > kernel aboard (something that I personally th

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 30 Mar 06:37 -0500, etech3 wrote: > Nate Did you read the devs name? > > "According to Ivan Gotyaovich" Umm, yes, which is partly the reason why I mention my skepticism. Remember, all good humor has a kernel of truth. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of al

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread Anto
On 30/03/15 15:15, Chris Kalin wrote: I hope it's absolutely true. Do all the ripping out and rebuilding in their own tree, and if Linus et al don't want to merge the changes back into mainline, distro users can use a sane kernel. Keep your peanut butter out of my chocolate, as it were. C

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread KatolaZ
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 12:38:37PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > ROFLMAO, > > Here's the problem, Nate. With any other software vendor, we'd > instantly and doubtlessly assume it an April Fools Joke. But this is > systemd we're talking about, and the first time I heard that it had a 2 > wa

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread Nimal Ratnayake
On 03/30/2015 04:55 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: repository. According to Ivan Gotyaovich, one of the developers working on systemd, the project intends to maintain its own fork of A search on systemd/systemd on Github indicated that there are no contributions to systemd by an Ivan Gotyaovich. N

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 06:25:27 -0500 Nate Bargmann wrote: > Is this really happening? > > > Now it appears as though the systemd developers have found a > > solution to kernel compatibility problems and a way to extend their > > philosophy of placing all key operating system components in one > >

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread Dragan FOSS
On 03/30/15 03:15 PM, Chris Kalin wrote: I hope it's absolutely true. https://github.com/systemdaemon/systemd/issues/1 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread Vlad
ved this transmittal > and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail > and then delete this message, including any attachments. > > -Original Message- > > From: Nate Bargmann [mailto:n...@n0nb.us] > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:25 AM &g

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread Chris Kalin
ssage- > From: Nate Bargmann [mailto:n...@n0nb.us] > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:25 AM > To: Devuan project > Subject: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke > > Is this really happening? > > > Now it appears as though the systemd developers have found a solut

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread Martijn Dekkers
I'm going with "early april fools joke" On 30 March 2015 at 14:39, Vlad <2389...@gmail.com> wrote: > This would IMO be a good thing, as it will limit the interaction between > Poettering OS and normal Linux, and they would have to fix the bugs they > create themselves, rather than bitch and moan

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread Vlad
This would IMO be a good thing, as it will limit the interaction between Poettering OS and normal Linux, and they would have to fix the bugs they create themselves, rather than bitch and moan about the kernel not playing well with their software, it would also mean that they can implement stuff lik

Re: [Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread etech3
Nate Did you read the devs name? "According to Ivan Gotyaovich" link to distrowatch http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20150330#community On 03/30/2015 07:25 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: Is this really happening? Now it appears as though the systemd developers have found a solution to ke

[Dng] This has GOT to be an April Fools joke

2015-03-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
Is this really happening? > Now it appears as though the systemd developers have found a solution > to kernel compatibility problems and a way to extend their philosophy > of placing all key operating system components in one > repository. According to Ivan Gotyaovich, one of the developers > work